More cars you didn't know existed...

More cars you didn't know existed...

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AmyRichardson

1,094 posts

43 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2023
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unsprung said:
Have we all seen the new Toyota Crown? You've probably heard about the old ones.

Unfortunately the new one is not coming to Blighty or Oz. But 40 other countries are getting it.

And while the new Crown is not necessarily about thrills, I invite you to wear a different hat: engineer, product manager, salesperson.

. . . It's a saloon, but it rides on a lifted suspension.

. . . Choice of two petrol engines, but each is strictly a hybrid.

. . . Not about performance, but it does offer up to 400 lb-ft of torque.

. . . All configurations are AWD.

. . . Optional two-toned colour: with contrasting black bonnet!

Weird. That's what reviews say about this car. But I reckon it's a good weird.

More importantly, the new Crown is reported to have Lexus-like features. Toyota is democratising that little bit of premium. Possibly because the Koreans and others are doing the same.

Video: UK / Canada duo
https://youtu.be/h2bijAb-IvU


Other Reviews:

https://jalopnik.com/2023-toyota-crown-first-drive...

https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/2023-toyota-crow...



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Well that's horrible. Not sure what ride height thing is all about- "Hey you! Love a 3-box but wish it was dynamically a bit worse in every way?" (Or "Love a 3-box but got a sore back" - age happens.)

And the Lexus-like features - the old Crown was a LWB GS with slightly different trims and QC standards (heresy, pitchforks...) I'm equally unsure where they're going with that one, incremental difference just became a bit more incremental.



CalisenQX

213 posts

74 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2023
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Mammasaid said:
Flumpo said:
Maybe someone in a European ‘design studio’ has pointed that out. They seem to be going with the abbreviated BYD here.

Don't look round the back then!

Was thinking… doesn’t look ‘that’ bad…. And then I saw it… people will genuinely not buy the car purely based on that. What were they thinking!!!

V 02

2,054 posts

61 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2023
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Toyota Corolla Cross, the normal Corolla is a great little car, looks funky. Well built, drives well.


This on the other hand is just so dreary to look at I can’t even find the words for it. Actually, I can. Just get a RAV4 instead.



Truckosaurus

11,336 posts

285 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Toyota seems to brought out a crossover version of all their models, as you can get a Yaris Cross and Aygo X as well.

Perhaps it is (as mentioned by myself a few posts ago) because the Rav4 is so big these days they need to have a smaller SUV in the line up.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Innocenti 186GT of 1963 / 64, designed by Giugiaro at Bertone, with a Ferrari derived 1788cc V6, 4 speed gearbox, steel tubing chassis and aluminium coachwork...












Pommy

14,268 posts

217 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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P5BNij said:
Innocenti 186GT of 1963 / 64, designed by Giugiaro at Bertone, with a Ferrari derived 1788cc V6, 4 speed gearbox, steel tubing chassis and aluminium coachwork...











When a Ferrari 330 gets dwarfism.

Wadeski

8,163 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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This may have been already posted...or maybe everyone is familiar with them, but I visited continental Europe last week for the first time since COVID and was surprised to see these bizarre looking Renaults everywhere.



It's somewhere between a lifted Megan saloon and a poor man's BMW X6??? Either way I had never see one before.

ajprice

27,544 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Wadeski said:
This may have been already posted...or maybe everyone is familiar with them, but I visited continental Europe last week for the first time since COVID and was surprised to see these bizarre looking Renaults everywhere.



It's somewhere between a lifted Megan saloon and a poor man's BMW X6??? Either way I had never see one before.
It's an Arkana isn't it? They do sell them here, or at least advertise them. Maybe they've sold 3 of them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Arkana

Truckosaurus

11,336 posts

285 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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They do sell them in the UK, I was behind one at the weekend.

I was surprised to find them on sale as most of the interesting Renaults don't make it over here.

Silvanus

5,279 posts

24 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
They do sell them in the UK, I was behind one at the weekend.

I was surprised to find them on sale as most of the interesting Renaults don't make it over here.
Depends how you define interesting

The Rotrex Kid

30,353 posts

161 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Arkana is a pretty good seller for Renault in the UK, it’s not a bad car per se, it just doesn’t do one thing particularly well, just a lot of things ‘ok’

Fermit

13,035 posts

101 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
They do sell them in the UK, I was behind one at the weekend.

I was surprised to find them on sale as most of the interesting Renaults don't make it over here.
I would imagine they took a punt, hoping they'd be enough punters wanting an 'X6' on a lemonade budget. Nope, never seen one.

Wadeski

8,163 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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I also live in New York where they don't even sell Renault's, but would have guessed their line up would still be Clio, Megane, Kangoo van, some small SUV with a silly name, Espace.

I wouldn't have guessed a wish.com X6 was their bread and butter in Barcelona!

SuperNads

272 posts

160 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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ajprice said:
It's an Arkana isn't it? They do sell them here, or at least advertise them. Maybe they've sold 3 of them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Arkana
I was more surprised to see it called a 'Mégane Conquest' in Montenegro as apparently 'Arkana' is too similar to a Yugoslavian war criminal's name.

Matt Cup

3,163 posts

105 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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1935 Adler Diplomat eight-wheeler


simonrockman

6,862 posts

256 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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P5BNij said:
Innocenti 186GT of 1963 / 64, designed by Giugiaro at Bertone, with a Ferrari derived 1788cc V6, 4 speed gearbox, steel tubing chassis and aluminium coachwork...











Looks like one of Porter's DOA in EVO

Chromegrill

1,085 posts

87 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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unsprung said:
Have we all seen the new Toyota Crown? You've probably heard about the old ones.

Unfortunately the new one is not coming to Blighty or Oz. But 40 other countries are getting it.

And while the new Crown is not necessarily about thrills, I invite you to wear a different hat: engineer, product manager, salesperson.

. . . It's a saloon, but it rides on a lifted suspension.

. . . Choice of two petrol engines, but each is strictly a hybrid.

. . . Not about performance, but it does offer up to 400 lb-ft of torque.

. . . All configurations are AWD.

. . . Optional two-toned colour: with contrasting black bonnet!

Weird. That's what reviews say about this car. But I reckon it's a good weird.

More importantly, the new Crown is reported to have Lexus-like features. Toyota is democratising that little bit of premium. Possibly because the Koreans and others are doing the same.

Video: UK / Canada duo
https://youtu.be/h2bijAb-IvU


Other Reviews:

https://jalopnik.com/2023-toyota-crown-first-drive...

https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/2023-toyota-crow...





I thought it had a decent enough profile until I looked at the wheels.

Sure, it has wheels all right. But why didn't they fit tyres to the wheels? Unless those black rubber band things around the outside of the alloys are meant to provide contact with the road.

chazwozza

732 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Which, get the pitchforks ready, I really like
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I like this too. Aaaaand I have a spare MX5 sitting on the drive.... hmm. Where's my grinder.. idea

generationx

6,794 posts

106 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Matt Cup said:
1935 Adler Diplomat eight-wheeler

Looks like something from “Monte Carlo or Bust”!

blueg33

36,018 posts

225 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Someone at work just arrived in an Ora Funky Cat

had no idea they existed and - what a dumb name