RE: The best fast estates to buy in 2020
Discussion
GTEYE said:
Fastdruid said:
No mention of the Mondeo 2.5T?
Glorious 5 pot as shared with the Focus ST.
0-60 time in the low to mid 7s and while softer than ideal to properly press on handles very well indeed for a big FWD car....even while loaded to the gunnels with family and a full boot!
It is amusingly quick, particularly on the motorway out of roadworks when you almost inevitably have a TDI of some sort glued to your bumper for having the temerity to stick to the limit.
Unlike the Focus ST it can actually tow as well (and is quicker than the Focus STd...and Golf GTD etc).
Not to mention that it is significantly better on fuel than the Legacy (and cheaper on tax too) etc.
I happened to see one just like that meeting it's end in a crusher only this morning!Glorious 5 pot as shared with the Focus ST.
0-60 time in the low to mid 7s and while softer than ideal to properly press on handles very well indeed for a big FWD car....even while loaded to the gunnels with family and a full boot!
It is amusingly quick, particularly on the motorway out of roadworks when you almost inevitably have a TDI of some sort glued to your bumper for having the temerity to stick to the limit.
Unlike the Focus ST it can actually tow as well (and is quicker than the Focus STd...and Golf GTD etc).
Not to mention that it is significantly better on fuel than the Legacy (and cheaper on tax too) etc.
Terminator X said:
cerb4.5lee said:
MC Bodge said:
Kawasicki said:
parabolica said:
GT3hopeful said:
No Volvos?
That's what I was thinking; the new V60/90 T8 Hybrid is a rapid piece of kit.Although in fairness I've driven both a 2019 XC60 and a 2019 XC90...and both their 2 litre engines were pretty rough and noisy even at steady speeds. So I can understand why Volvo have limited their engines to 112mph for sure.
TX.
SJR said:
For me it would have to be a Jaguar Lynx Eventer. No idea what price bracket it fits in to !
https://silodrome.com/jaguar-xjs-lynx-eventer/
That's not an estate. That's a hearse!https://silodrome.com/jaguar-xjs-lynx-eventer/
cerb4.5lee said:
True. However even my shopping car is capable of 146mph...so I'd feel a bit short changed at only 112mph.
So a top speed of 112mph would reduce your feeling of potency? Or is it in case you need to 146mph to avoid terrorists, chase bad guys or avoid a meteorite strike on a shopping trip again?
MC Bodge said:
cerb4.5lee said:
True. However even my shopping car is capable of 146mph...so I'd feel a bit short changed at only 112mph.
So a top speed of 112mph would reduce your feeling of potency? Or is it in case you need to 146mph to avoid terrorists, chase bad guys or avoid a meteorite strike on a shopping trip again?
AC43 said:
donkmeister said:
E500s with the 5.5 available in this budget.
There are about 12 of these in the UK and, unlike the coupes and saloons, they don't come up often. Having said that, there's one extremely good one available right now.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202009214...
MC Bodge said:
cerb4.5lee said:
True. However even my shopping car is capable of 146mph...so I'd feel a bit short changed at only 112mph.
So a top speed of 112mph would reduce your feeling of potency? Or is it in case you need to 146mph to avoid terrorists, chase bad guys or avoid a meteorite strike on a shopping trip again?
Yes and of course I don't need it...but it is nice to know that it is there if I did(I've only been brave enough to go to 130mph in it anyway, and I wouldn't fancy a high speed crash in it to be fair).
Regarding Volvo...I'm not a big fan of being told what to do, so my back would be up straight away if a manufacturer was restricting how fast I could go for sure. I'm guessing that Volvos target audience wouldn't go anywhere near 112mph to be fair anyway. So it does make sense I reckon.
ChrisCh86 said:
Phwoar. That is a beautiful car.
How's the torque steer?
Cheers, it's had a Q2 Diff fitted by AutoLusso so torque steer is fairly non-existent (At least I haven't noticed it in the limited time i've owned the car, I really wanted one with the Q2/Quaife fitted for this reason).How's the torque steer?
MC Bodge said:
Kawasicki said:
Yep, a 1.6TDI estate is all I need. It’s faster than the latest Volvo’s too!
True. You'll be beating Volvo stage times and getting to your destination quicker in that cerb4.5lee said:
MC Bodge said:
cerb4.5lee said:
True. However even my shopping car is capable of 146mph...so I'd feel a bit short changed at only 112mph.
So a top speed of 112mph would reduce your feeling of potency? Or is it in case you need to 146mph to avoid terrorists, chase bad guys or avoid a meteorite strike on a shopping trip again?
Yes and of course I don't need it...but it is nice to know that it is there if I did (I've only been brave enough to go to 130mph in it anyway, and I wouldn't fancy a high speed crash in it to be fair).
Regarding Volvo...I'm not a big fan of being told what to do, so my back would be up straight away if a manufacturer was restricting how fast I could go for sure. I'm guessing that Volvos target audience wouldn't go anywhere near 112mph to be fair anyway. So it does make sense I reckon.
Of course, it would be annoying if somebody was to discover a limiter whilst trying to break the lap record at Snetterton in their diesel XC90.
I may have well exceeded this on private roads and mostly in Germany in the past, but in recent times it has been rare to exceed 100mph on private roads (it has become less acceptable and more severely punished on public roads in the UK).
Kawasicki said:
I drive my daily commute on the Autobahn at 200km/h indicated. So yes, my destination is reached sooner than in a new Volvo. I bet I use much less fuel too.
Ah, so not in the UK and an indicated 200km/h is possibly not much different to 112mph.What's fuel got to do, got to do with it?
MC Bodge said:
I may have well exceeded this on private roads and mostly in Germany in the past, but in recent times it has been rare to exceed 100mph on private roads (it has become less acceptable and more severely punished on public roads in the UK).
Agree. 
As a side note...can you imagine being on an autobahn thinking that your car can do 155mph, and then you butt the limiter at only 112mph...you'd be gutted!(well I would).
superlightr said:
James-m5qjf said:
I think a true estate really needs to tow bar.
my RS6 was a great tow car. Was great fun to outdrag other cars off the lights/roundabouts towing.....
Same on the traffic lights, gentle take off to save mullering the clutch then floor it.
Utterly rinsed the average mpg and I should have been taking it easy given it made f
k all different to the time it took but it amused me every time. I can only imagine how epic it would be to do the same in an RS6 (although given their reputation for borkage I'd personally be a little bit terrified it was going to break horribly).
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