RE: £30k future classics | Six of the Best

[DoubleD]

MK1RS Bruce said:

DoubleD said:

MK1RS Bruce said:

DoubleD said:

MK1RS Bruce said:

interest rates will have to stay low for a very long time as a huge percentage of the country are borrowed well beyond their means

What percentage are in this position?

Well between 2016 and 2018 across all 10 wealth deciles every single one of them had a proportion above 50% in debt with a combination of property and financial debt, I don't think the situation will have improved.

Not to mention if the interest rate was to rise significantly it would be a cascade effect of dropping house prices and negative equity

Yes, but what percentage have borrowed well beyond their means?

More than 1% and less than 100% would be my guess with any number in that range being a "huge" percentage when you consider the number of people that it applies to. I've obviously upset you with my statement though so feel free to correct me if you feel I am wrong.

Nope not upset, I just presumed that you knew.

[SidewaysSi]

MK1RS Bruce said:

DoubleD said:

MK1RS Bruce said:

DoubleD said:

MK1RS Bruce said:

interest rates will have to stay low for a very long time as a huge percentage of the country are borrowed well beyond their means

What percentage are in this position?

Well between 2016 and 2018 across all 10 wealth deciles every single one of them had a proportion above 50% in debt with a combination of property and financial debt, I don't think the situation will have improved.

Not to mention if the interest rate was to rise significantly it would be a cascade effect of dropping house prices and negative equity

Yes, but what percentage have borrowed well beyond their means?

More than 1% and less than 100% would be my guess with any number in that range being a "huge" percentage when you consider the number of people that it applies to. I've obviously upset you with my statement though so feel free to correct me if you feel I am wrong.

But you said a "huge percentage" bit sounds like you really mean a "huge number"?

And how do you define "huge"?

[Leins]

p4cks said:

This is where my money would (and did) go...

I think you’re right there, it’s the first car I thought of when I read the subject title

Second would be a 968 Club Sport, which I think are still possible to get at the £30k budget

[F1 ASBO]

Ray_Aber said:

Not sure I’d agree with this list - although there some belters.

1. The TVR T350 is a far more resolved design than the “rammed up the @rse” Tamora. I’d go for the former. It’s rare, and better built than the earlier stuff (I believe: happy to be put in my place!).

2. No Aston Martins? Early Vantages must come in around £30k. DB7s cannot be discounted.

3. I’d not rule out a clean early 1990s Mazda RX-7. Magnificent car.

4. Jaguar XK-R. Will never date- and that meant less built in obsolescence.


Just my viewpoint!

Number 4... funny how people always say the R version. I deliberately bought a 5.0 N/A XK rather than an older 4.2 XK-R, it's a much better car and with a performance exhaust has about the same power but sounds epically better! As for the 5.0 XK-R well just more to very expensively go wrong. I think the XK is prettier too and that's what will make it such a classic in years to come.

[Welshbeef]

F1 ASBO said:

Number 4... funny how people always say the R version. I deliberately bought a 5.0 N/A XK rather than an older 4.2 XK-R, it's a much better car and with a performance exhaust has about the same power but sounds epically better! As for the 5.0 XK-R well just more to very expensively go wrong. I think the XK is prettier too and that's what will make it such a classic in years to come.

I’ve driven the 5.0 XK-R Portfolio (IIRC) and the issue I found was so much torque low down meant it had a really lose rear end if overtaking on A/B roads.

[triathlonstu]

PaulJC84 said:

DoubleD said:

RATATTAK said:

DoubleD said:

SidewaysSi said:

hyphen said:

Quadcamboy said:

samoht said:

Z4M Coupe, £24k
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10655943 (Ad is worth a read too)

He's certainly trying to sell it.

bless him.

The Z4 coupe are a good looking car and why they will be regarded as classics

What a laughable advert...Do people really write such BS?

It is a grim advert to read. I wish people would stick to the facts.

Does anyone know how many of these Sepang Bronze Z4 M Coupes are in the UK ?

The owner is most likely on here so maybe he could tell us.

Just read all that. Anyone got a link to the Youtube vid........

An absolute bargain considering Batman has serviced it

[blade7]

Leins said:

I think you’re right there, it’s the first car I thought of when I read the subject title

Second would be a 968 Club Sport, which I think are still possible to get at the £30k budget

Never really understood the 968 CS hype. It comes from the time when Porsche were in the st, and Porsche stuck the CS moniker on the over priced 968 to try and shift them. Until recently the 968 Sport was much cheaper, despite being practically the same car. Now every Sport seller is calling the Sport a CS comfort

Edited by blade7 on Thursday 8th October 13:56

[dlight69]

p4cks said:

This is where my money would (and did) go...

Snap



And not too many still around:-

[ddom]

blade7 said:

Never really understood the 968 CS hype. It comes from the time when Porsche were in the st, and Porsche stuck the CS moniker on the over priced 968 to try and shift them. Until recently the 968 Sport was much cheaper, despite being practically the same car. Now every Sport seller is calling the Sport a CS comfort

Edited by blade7 on Thursday 8th October 13:56

Apart from every contemporary review rating it as one of the best drivers cars of the time? That’ll probably be a 944 owners thing, maybe?

[2u2r]

ddom said:

Apart from every contemporary review rating it as one of the best drivers cars of the time? That’ll probably be a 944 owners thing, maybe?

The 968 CS wasn't that special, the 3.2 Carrera CS on the other hand was a proper car, dumbing down of the motor sport cars really Pees me off, anyway can you get a 928 GT for under £30k? now that would be a good shout for a future classic

EDIT

https://www.historics.co.uk/media/1589443/1992-por...

last year 26k

Edited by 2u2r on Thursday 8th October 21:06

[Manxman1950]

blade7 said:

Never really understood the 968 CS hype. It comes from the time when Porsche were in the st, and Porsche stuck the CS moniker on the over priced 968 to try and shift them. Until recently the 968 Sport was much cheaper, despite being practically the same car. Now every Sport seller is calling the Sport a CS comfort

Edited by blade7 on Thursday 8th October 13:56

Have you driven one? Sport or Club Sport? One of the best handling cars around, with fantastic steering and brakes.

[John Locke]

i wouldn't put £30,000 into any of them, especially not the boy racer chavmobiles.

Edited by John Locke on Thursday 8th October 21:34

[Fittster]

ddom said:

blade7 said:

Never really understood the 968 CS hype. It comes from the time when Porsche were in the st, and Porsche stuck the CS moniker on the over priced 968 to try and shift them. Until recently the 968 Sport was much cheaper, despite being practically the same car. Now every Sport seller is calling the Sport a CS comfort

Edited by blade7 on Thursday 8th October 13:56

Apart from every contemporary review rating it as one of the best drivers cars of the time? That’ll probably be a 944 owners thing, maybe?

I recall that the RX-7 was rated higher than the 968 in period reviews. The four cylinder 3.0 engine was particularly criticised, journalists at the time thought that if Porsche had any cash to develop the car it would have a six cylinder.

[RATATTAK]

Fittster said:

The four cylinder 3.0 engine was particularly criticised, journalists at the time thought that if Porsche had any cash to develop the car it would have a six cylinder.

IIRC the engine was criticised as being out of a VW van.

[blade7]

Manxman1950 said:

blade7 said:

Never really understood the 968 CS hype. It comes from the time when Porsche were in the st, and Porsche stuck the CS moniker on the over priced 968 to try and shift them. Until recently the 968 Sport was much cheaper, despite being practically the same car. Now every Sport seller is calling the Sport a CS comfort

Have you driven one? Sport or Club Sport? One of the best handling cars around, with fantastic steering and brakes.

I have driven a 968. A late 944 turbo has better brakes, a LSD, more power and is faster.

[fleon]

p4cks said:

This is where my money would (and did) go...

Excellent choice. I bought mine in 2011 and have never regretted it
Oh, it;s a New Zealand domiciled vehicle.
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Edited by fleon on Friday 9th October 09:24

[big_rob_sydney]

Back in early 2007, I went looking for a car that had been on my radar for a long time. My criteria for buying has not changed one iota since then, and I certainly wont be telling anyone what that is here.

After looking at about half a dozen, I found one that was offered at 17k, I put in a cheeky offer, and lo and behold, I was the proud owner for just 11k, back in October 2007. I've come to the conclusion that the curve really appreciates for these kinds of cars somewhere between 15-20 years of age (my specific car model were all built in 1998).

The car? Subaru 22B.

That 11k car, is now selling for upwards of 150k in some cases. I know exactly what will appreciate.

Edited by big_rob_sydney on Saturday 10th October 11:27

[osborn911]

The db9 should be there.
1 Its better looking than any of them.
2 You can pick up an early model for £22-25K
3 Aluminium body no rust.
4 Interior looks great especially if the walnut has been replaced with piano black.
5 Don't get one with sat nav you will be forever lost.
6 You can get some interesting colour combinations

Mike

[baconsarney]

Top lurking there Mike

[cayman-black]

osborn911 said:

The db9 should be there.
1 Its better looking than any of them.
2 You can pick up an early model for £22-25K
3 Aluminium body no rust.
4 Interior looks great especially if the walnut has been replaced with piano black.
5 Don't get one with sat nav you will be forever lost.
6 You can get some interesting colour combinations

Mike

Right! Nine pages and not one car is better than a lovely V8Vantage or DB9 at this money.