RE: £30k future classics | Six of the Best
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To hit the mark again 25 years or so later most cars available to the masses need to have been:-
Desirable when released, even commanding a premium second hand.
Built in limited numbers, with no real follow up from the manufacturer of a newer, better, cheaper alternative in more recent times.
Fell out of favour and dropped into the hands of the knuckle draggers who decimated their numbers.
Appealed to mainly blokes in their twenties who have since done ok in life and want to relive their youth.
Can be fettled in a shed by Joe Bloggs with a screwdriver and a spanner watching you tube vids.
As they say, all ships rise in the tide, the best ones have long since sailed, those above are the old dinghies that are now just about still staying afloat as a result, that will sink straight away in the next minor squall.
Cars generally have fallen out of favour with the youth so it wont be a continuous cycle, the 80s and early 90s stuff benefitted from the theft and insurance hikes of the mid 90s which meant mainstream manufacturers stopped producing sporty stuff for quite some time, causing a void.
Most modern cars are white goods, that will be thrown away when broken as they are now to complicated and cost too much to fix once they hit the bargain basement. Thus the once decent stuff that now fetch ridiculous sums due to their relative rarity will always now remain at that level as there are no real up and coming contenders to knock them off their perch.
Desirable when released, even commanding a premium second hand.
Built in limited numbers, with no real follow up from the manufacturer of a newer, better, cheaper alternative in more recent times.
Fell out of favour and dropped into the hands of the knuckle draggers who decimated their numbers.
Appealed to mainly blokes in their twenties who have since done ok in life and want to relive their youth.
Can be fettled in a shed by Joe Bloggs with a screwdriver and a spanner watching you tube vids.
As they say, all ships rise in the tide, the best ones have long since sailed, those above are the old dinghies that are now just about still staying afloat as a result, that will sink straight away in the next minor squall.
Cars generally have fallen out of favour with the youth so it wont be a continuous cycle, the 80s and early 90s stuff benefitted from the theft and insurance hikes of the mid 90s which meant mainstream manufacturers stopped producing sporty stuff for quite some time, causing a void.
Most modern cars are white goods, that will be thrown away when broken as they are now to complicated and cost too much to fix once they hit the bargain basement. Thus the once decent stuff that now fetch ridiculous sums due to their relative rarity will always now remain at that level as there are no real up and coming contenders to knock them off their perch.
And the next wave of click bait to complete the dumbing down and final exodus will be:
‘You Won’t Believe What This Car Looks Like Now’ and ‘People In Your Postcode Are Getting This Free Car Now’.
Starting to really feel the US ownership of the site now.
The ‘like’ and ‘forward’ buttons for 2021 will complete the migration nicely.
‘You Won’t Believe What This Car Looks Like Now’ and ‘People In Your Postcode Are Getting This Free Car Now’.
Starting to really feel the US ownership of the site now.
The ‘like’ and ‘forward’ buttons for 2021 will complete the migration nicely.
Aren’t some of you guys missing the point. It’s about classics and appreciation and not just about the cars that fall within the budget. Whilst I don’t fully agree with some of the choices in the article, somehow I can’t see some of the cars mentioned by fellow members appreciating much. Perhaps I’m wrong.
samoht said:
Beautiful car and I love the colour. It is registered as 'Condition Inspected' - I had never heard of this term before. Should it devalue the car?
hpi.co.uk said:
Condition inspected
Some written-off cars can be safely returned to the road and when this happens, to show it’s been done legitimately, the car will go onto a Condition Inspected register. Set up in 1990, the register features cars that have been officially inspected to make sure they’re safe.
Some written-off cars can be safely returned to the road and when this happens, to show it’s been done legitimately, the car will go onto a Condition Inspected register. Set up in 1990, the register features cars that have been officially inspected to make sure they’re safe.
breakfan said:
Beautiful car and I love the colour. It is registered as 'Condition Inspected' - I had never heard of this term before. Should it devalue the car?
Yeah, on reading further that one's probably not the best specific car to illustrate the point of appreciating classics 
Couldn't resist a nice pic! It means it was Cat C or D, and has been officially inspected to check that it's been properly repaired. So value probably lies somewhere between Cat D and a car that's never been written off.
AdamV12AMR said:
AdamV12AMR said:
Quite a big aerial on it though
Bought a Z3M years ago and look what's happened to the prices of those! I still have it now.
I've owned a Z4M. Had it for 2 years and sold it for what i paid for it - they will be a good investment for the future.
My money has recently gone on an Alfa Romeo 4C. Only 8 for sale on Auto trader currently and non on P-Heads. Watch this space....
I've owned a Z4M. Had it for 2 years and sold it for what i paid for it - they will be a good investment for the future.
My money has recently gone on an Alfa Romeo 4C. Only 8 for sale on Auto trader currently and non on P-Heads. Watch this space....
Augustus Windsock said:
Not sure how a previous poster called the Audi R8, there’s not one currently for sale on PH for under £30k.
Just because it's not on PH doesn't mean you can't buy an R8 for £30k, and while the paid staff are honour-bound to constrain themselves to the in-house offering, that doesn't mean that we all are ;-)Chris-596aj said:
My money has recently gone on an Alfa Romeo 4C. Only 8 for sale on Auto trader currently and non on P-Heads. Watch this space....
Stretching the budget to £35k, will be interesting to see how this evolves (also in comparison with the A110 which isn't that dissimilar in concept, off-the-shelf turbo four installed in a custom lightweight chassis).samoht said:
That’s a bloody lovely colour.samoht said:
Augustus Windsock said:
Not sure how a previous poster called the Audi R8, there’s not one currently for sale on PH for under £30k.
Just because it's not on PH doesn't mean you can't buy an R8 for £30k, and while the paid staff are honour-bound to constrain themselves to the in-house offering, that doesn't mean that we all are ;-)I appreciate that, which is why I included there not being one in PH.
Chris-596aj said:
My money has recently gone on an Alfa Romeo 4C. Only 8 for sale on Auto trader currently and non on P-Heads. Watch this space....
Stretching the budget to £35k, will be interesting to see how this evolves (also in comparison with the A110 which isn't that dissimilar in concept, off-the-shelf turbo four installed in a custom lightweight chassis).I think TVR wise I’d go for the Tuscan, had one before and regret ever selling it, especially as it’s no doubt almost tripled in value in the 10 years since I sold it.
Tamoras are brilliant cars too just I think the Tuscan looks better.
Other cars I think will keep going up a bit more are the Mitsubishi Evo 7s 8s and 9s.
The 996 Turbo isn’t a bad shout either although they’ve gone up a bit already and I’m not sure if you can get a decent one for £30k now.
Tamoras are brilliant cars too just I think the Tuscan looks better.
Other cars I think will keep going up a bit more are the Mitsubishi Evo 7s 8s and 9s.
The 996 Turbo isn’t a bad shout either although they’ve gone up a bit already and I’m not sure if you can get a decent one for £30k now.
Fittster said:
To me the unknown with buying a car as a long term investment is who the general move to EV cars (and further along autonomous driving) is going to hit values.
Will ICE cars be allowed on all roads at all times?
Will fuel become difficult to obtain?
If getting hold of petrol becomes difficult and you are restricted to when / where you can drive it I can see it having an negative hit on prices.
I don’t think ICE cars will be forbidden, especially for recreational use. However, the move towards EV and most of all the move towards mobility solutions might result in a shortage of “petrolheads”, which might impact demand and prices. After all, whereas every male in my generation (born 77) dreamed of a car and at least pretended to know about cars, nowadays car ownership among 20yrs old is much lower, very few of them know about cars and certainly nobody pretends to know about them as it would be a deeply uncool thing to pretend to...Will ICE cars be allowed on all roads at all times?
Will fuel become difficult to obtain?
If getting hold of petrol becomes difficult and you are restricted to when / where you can drive it I can see it having an negative hit on prices.
samoht said:
Would be in my list of 6 given the stated criteria.
Only one of those 6 in the OP list I agree with is the Mk.1 Focus RS, which in reality has already attained the status given prices in recent times.
Struggling to think of any other 4 though to be honest that fit the criteria.
I would agree that a manual V8 R8 is a candidate. There was a 36k miler at £30k for sale recently, and I would have bought it had it been feasible to do so.
Evo 8s seem to be on the up, I imagine because the 9 and the 6 have started to become extremely pricey. The 8s seem to have taken a 4k jump since this time last year.
I can see the argument for that TVR, never on the radar for me, so hard to be objective, but I understand why it's on the list I think.
I doubt the Cayman of that vintage will get a proper grip, it'll be the last of them with the flat 6 that will become sought after. I like them though, so happy to be shown to be wrong. Prices on that model still seem to be falling at the moment though.
The Aston in the link above looks like a lot of car for the money.
Evo 8s seem to be on the up, I imagine because the 9 and the 6 have started to become extremely pricey. The 8s seem to have taken a 4k jump since this time last year.
I can see the argument for that TVR, never on the radar for me, so hard to be objective, but I understand why it's on the list I think.
I doubt the Cayman of that vintage will get a proper grip, it'll be the last of them with the flat 6 that will become sought after. I like them though, so happy to be shown to be wrong. Prices on that model still seem to be falling at the moment though.
The Aston in the link above looks like a lot of car for the money.
aeropilot said:
samoht said:
Would be in my list of 6 given the stated criteria.
Only one of those 6 in the OP list I agree with is the Mk.1 Focus RS, which in reality has already attained the status given prices in recent times.
Struggling to think of any other 4 though to be honest that fit the criteria.
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