The V8 ICE What's it all about?
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Mates got a 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 with a 5.7 hemi.
It’s brilliant. It’s mated to a 8 speed gearbox so will shuffle up the gears quickly if you aren’t booting it for gentle driving.
But plant the throttle and it takes off with good speed and a soundtrack to rival anything.
It does help he’s got better exhausts on it and the double cab has an electric sliding window so you can open it up to fully hear the music.
A V8 is a lovely thing. I want one of my own one day.
It’s brilliant. It’s mated to a 8 speed gearbox so will shuffle up the gears quickly if you aren’t booting it for gentle driving.
But plant the throttle and it takes off with good speed and a soundtrack to rival anything.
It does help he’s got better exhausts on it and the double cab has an electric sliding window so you can open it up to fully hear the music.
A V8 is a lovely thing. I want one of my own one day.
It is the noise for me as well. My dad had a 5.0 V8 Mustang from me being aged 7 to 17 and the noise has just stuck with me. I've had 3 V8's over the years and I would love another one at some stage(probably a V8 Mustang!).
I heard a Jaguar V8 F-Type over the weekend with a modified exhaust on it and it made my day. It was so loud and I just really enjoyed listening to it. The driver was showing off left right and centre and my mrs thought that it was very cringeworthy...but she said to me that I'd be exactly the same in it if it was mine!
I heard a Jaguar V8 F-Type over the weekend with a modified exhaust on it and it made my day. It was so loud and I just really enjoyed listening to it. The driver was showing off left right and centre and my mrs thought that it was very cringeworthy...but she said to me that I'd be exactly the same in it if it was mine!
Maybe goes back to the 1960s when most where driving around in weedy 4 pots ?
The American V8s where seen as big and powerful, the ultimate power plant.
They do make a lovely noise in NA form, specially now compared to the forced induction characterless but hugely powerful and efficient engines of today.
The American V8s where seen as big and powerful, the ultimate power plant.
They do make a lovely noise in NA form, specially now compared to the forced induction characterless but hugely powerful and efficient engines of today.
StuntmanMike said:
The noise. The engine dominates the car.
You don’t even have to drive fast, just burble around in it and enjoy.
Nail on the head! You don’t even have to drive fast, just burble around in it and enjoy.
I bought a 2007 CLS63 about five years ago, it was very clean, low mileage and a total contrast from any car I'd had before. The big 'but' being that 6.2 V8 engine. Despite being a quick car, having that burbling big engine up front doesn't necessarily encourage you to be a tear away but it's just a nice thing.
By contrast my other half has a CLS350, it's a very nice car, looks very similar and goes well. As nice and good a car though it is, it's a special car with that V8 engine!
It's chiefly the noise from me too, in so far as even if they had none of the other qualities they bring, I'd still want one.
Especially the lumpy uneven idle.
As has been mentioned, the shudder you can feel through the car at idle and how much it rocks if you rev if, the induction roar, the effortless waft of torque, the differences in tone at various throttle openings and speeds, it's just something I love.
I'm sure to one's limbic system it produces largely the same response as riding a lion would do, and to have that accessible under your right foot at all times is a constant treat
Especially the lumpy uneven idle.
As has been mentioned, the shudder you can feel through the car at idle and how much it rocks if you rev if, the induction roar, the effortless waft of torque, the differences in tone at various throttle openings and speeds, it's just something I love.
I'm sure to one's limbic system it produces largely the same response as riding a lion would do, and to have that accessible under your right foot at all times is a constant treat
Alex_225 said:
StuntmanMike said:
The noise. The engine dominates the car.
You don’t even have to drive fast, just burble around in it and enjoy.
Nail on the head! You don’t even have to drive fast, just burble around in it and enjoy.
I'd certainly love to experience an AMG NA V8 for sure.
The noise, the being able to set off in 5th, quiet (relatively speaking) motorway cruising @2krpm and the Jekyll/Hyde moment as you plant the right foot and the induction roar takes over from the exhaust burble.
I decided to go V8 in 2000 as I could see they'd not be around for much longer (though they've stuck around), and it'll never get sold.
I decided to go V8 in 2000 as I could see they'd not be around for much longer (though they've stuck around), and it'll never get sold.
SturdyHSV said:
I'm sure to one's limbic system it produces largely the same response as riding a lion would do, and to have that accessible under your right foot at all times is a constant treat
And with the most powerful ever ICE engines being of the V8 configuration, and for those with a big enough pair to risk it back in the day of the nitro burning front engine dragsters that is an apt analogy...And yes, for those that have never seen inside a vintage 1960's front engine dragster, yes your family jewels are sitting just behind the differential with your legs astride it.......as you try to put almost 2000hp through that diff.
cerb4.5lee said:
Alex_225 said:
StuntmanMike said:
The noise. The engine dominates the car.
You don’t even have to drive fast, just burble around in it and enjoy.
Nail on the head! You don’t even have to drive fast, just burble around in it and enjoy.
I'd certainly love to experience an AMG NA V8 for sure.
Like most on here, it’s the noise and the way that noise varies so much; there the deep! bassy muscle car style V8’s to the high revving screamers.
Loved my uncles B7 RS4; that little grey saloon car made a lovely noise yet I also liked the tinnier noise from the E9x M3.
Loved my uncles B7 RS4; that little grey saloon car made a lovely noise yet I also liked the tinnier noise from the E9x M3.
Edited by Court_S on Monday 19th October 10:58
Alex_225 said:
Yeah the noise, the torque and that smooth delivery is lovely. I think with the 63 engine for day to day use it was potentially pretty savage. I suppose like any car that's very quick. Mine isn't a daily car so always feels novel to me. I do like the idea of a daily car like an S500 (I have a diesel one) as that torque and relaxed power would suit daily driving very nicely, just not the fuel bills! haha
Mine is only the C63 not the S but to be totally honest it’s too rapid for road use. Overtaking is fine but if you unload full or most throttle as your pulling out I get a oh poo tail wag / it picks up on the contour of the road so I’ve learnt to wait until I’m on other side of the road then dispatch.
Use the throttle as an on off Switch it will bite.
But of course you drive it sensibly and it’s a lot of fun - otherwise it’s a 509bhp (there are sources that state the C63 is actually putting out around 530-550bhp a bit like the under rated E55K to avoid higher price models losing sales).
Look at 0-100mph times E63s v C63 not much in it and for fast road driving no one would even notice the difference.
Love mine - gleaming polished black with non black wheels. I’d like an E63S wagon too but they are a lot
baconsarney said:
I love my 850 T5 estate and its 5 pot turbo lump...... but...... the idea of a V8 Estate is very very attractive..... in a dirty kind of way
I had a Mercedes 230TE estate many years ago.... now that with a V8 in it would I think be very special
I’d say the E55 5.4V8 is perfect. I had a Mercedes 230TE estate many years ago.... now that with a V8 in it would I think be very special
Ditto too the E55 K AMG is also perfect
Personally I don’t think the 6.2v8 suits the E63 but the 5.5v8 TT and the 4.0v8 TT are utterly epic cars.
Oh oh oh the S205 C63 is very special too - it’s the modern day Hammer (or in my eyes it is anyway) muscle cars hand built engines - which Aston M are using the exact same unit in their lovely cars.... yet I’ve got the same in my Wagon
aeropilot said:
And with the most powerful ever ICE engines being of the V8 configuration, and for those with a big enough pair to risk it back in the day of the nitro burning front engine dragsters that is an apt analogy...
And yes, for those that have never seen inside a vintage 1960's front engine dragster, yes your family jewels are sitting just behind the differential with your legs astride it.......as you try to put almost 2000hp through that diff.
Some time ago, I built one - granted, it wasn't 392 powered. It was a 426 BBC running on 95% nitro and direct drive. It was a bit of an animal and frustratingly, never had the chance to run it properly before the drivetrain was moved into an altered. It produced somewhere in the region of 2800bhp (was sufficient to run 6.711/209mph in the altered a year later).And yes, for those that have never seen inside a vintage 1960's front engine dragster, yes your family jewels are sitting just behind the differential with your legs astride it.......as you try to put almost 2000hp through that diff.
The seating position was unique, legs straddling the back axle - being sat behind the rear axle centre line was a peculiar feeling
Back on topic - V8's... all told, they're cheap for what they offer. Particularly the American variety, not a lot of coin produces a lot of horsepower. The sound can be both pleasant or ground pounding.
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