RE: Mercedes-Benz G500 | High Mile Club
Discussion
Dapster said:
And if when driving that you're thinking, "what this ultra stable chassis really needs to exploit its sporting pretensions is around 890 bhp" then of course, Brabus has it covered....
https://www.brabus.com/en/supercars/brabus-gv12-90...
I might be in a minority here, but I would love that if I had the money. Just stupendous.https://www.brabus.com/en/supercars/brabus-gv12-90...
Dapster said:
And if when driving that you're thinking, "what this ultra stable chassis really needs to exploit its sporting pretensions is around 890 bhp" then of course, Brabus has it covered....
https://www.brabus.com/en/supercars/brabus-gv12-90...
hideous https://www.brabus.com/en/supercars/brabus-gv12-90...
ess said:
Like most currently spotted G-Wagens, that looks rather 'premier league footballer'.
Equivalent of a Twisted Defender, driven by a gym owner overdosed on steroids.
This spec is 'cool', even sans winter setting.
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Yup. It’s incredibly rough though in earlier guise. The ex military ones are occasionally used as estate cars out here and they really are very basic. Equivalent of a Twisted Defender, driven by a gym owner overdosed on steroids.
This spec is 'cool', even sans winter setting.
S
It was around the late 90s that they, in very crude terms, turned it from an 80s Land Rover into an 80s Range Rover.
That sort of ten year period up to about 2010 before they became the formal means to apply for an unexplained wealth order is to me the sweet spot. You can get them with a silly engine (and the M113 SOHC V8 is one of the all time greats in my book), enough modern comforts, all the sensible things and the package still retains that silliness of a car from the past.
An interesting thing about the G Wagon that those who like to mock are probably blissfully unaware of is that they are the only modern Mercedes product where the dedicated forums contain owners who are literate and intelligent and not just slinging random, made up words down in an attempt to discuss what wheels or chip to have smashed into their rented Uber by some back street gibbon.
I find the prices these days a farce but the price just represents the number they want to build and the desire of the greater number of people who want to buy one. It means that the older ones are over inflated but it also means that you will get that money back. You may need to add an extra and unwarranted £20k into the pot but that money isn’t lost but just temporarily crossed to a different asset class and you can return it to cash later.
The reality is that there are two faces to the g wagon but the majority of people can’t get beyond the shouty one that is comprised of 90% of the people they hate and blame for everything when there is the whole other side that they are missing that contains the remaining 10% of the type of people they hate and blame for everything.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Tuesday 20th October 08:04
HardtopManual said:
Thought to myself, "I bet this is up for fifteen grand or something daft like that."
THIRTY. FIVE. GRAND.
There might only be 11 of them left, but I bet the number of people willing to pay that much for one is much, much smaller, probably zero.
Even in the credit crunch when petrol was getting on for £1.40/litre they were worth a lot more than that. This will sell for that price easily, I bet. They usually do. THIRTY. FIVE. GRAND.
There might only be 11 of them left, but I bet the number of people willing to pay that much for one is much, much smaller, probably zero.
Thinking of them like an X5 doesn't work. They're built differently and just are different. An X5 is a Hyundai Coupe while a G500 is a Ferrari 456, in relative terms (not performance)
I'm a big G Wagen fan though. Anything up to the early 2000s as I don't like the more recent styling
DonkeyApple said:
Yup. It’s incredibly rough though in earlier guise. The ex military ones are occasionally used as estate cars out here and they really are very basic.
It was around the late 90s that they, in very crude terms, turned it from an 80s Land Rover into an 80s Range Rover.
That sort of ten year period up to about 2010 before they became the formal means to apply for an unexplained wealth order is to me the sweet spot. You can get them with a silly engine (and the M113 SOHC V8 is one of the all time greats in my book), enough modern comforts, all the sensible things and the package still retains that silliness of a car from the past.
An interesting thing about the G Wagon that those who like to mock are probably blissfully unaware of is that they are the only modern Mercedes product where the dedicated forums contain owners who are literate and intelligent and not just slinging random, made up words down in an attempt to discuss what wheels or chip to have smashed into their rented Uber by some back street gibbon.
I find the prices these days a farce but the price just represents the number they want to build and the desire of the greater number of people who want to buy one. It means that the older ones are over inflated but it also means that you will get that money back. You may need to add an extra and unwarranted £20k into the pot but that money isn’t lost but just temporarily crossed to a different asset class and you can return it to cash later.
The reality is that there are two faces to the g wagon but the majority of people can’t get beyond the shouty one that is comprised of 90% of the people they hate and blame for everything when there is the whole other side that they are missing that contains the remaining 10% of the type of people they hate and blame for everything.
Agree with this. The 90’s G500 is understated compared to the later cars. I love mine and it’s a keeper. There is something about them that is difficult to put into words. Also it gets nothing but positive comments in my experience. It was around the late 90s that they, in very crude terms, turned it from an 80s Land Rover into an 80s Range Rover.
That sort of ten year period up to about 2010 before they became the formal means to apply for an unexplained wealth order is to me the sweet spot. You can get them with a silly engine (and the M113 SOHC V8 is one of the all time greats in my book), enough modern comforts, all the sensible things and the package still retains that silliness of a car from the past.
An interesting thing about the G Wagon that those who like to mock are probably blissfully unaware of is that they are the only modern Mercedes product where the dedicated forums contain owners who are literate and intelligent and not just slinging random, made up words down in an attempt to discuss what wheels or chip to have smashed into their rented Uber by some back street gibbon.
I find the prices these days a farce but the price just represents the number they want to build and the desire of the greater number of people who want to buy one. It means that the older ones are over inflated but it also means that you will get that money back. You may need to add an extra and unwarranted £20k into the pot but that money isn’t lost but just temporarily crossed to a different asset class and you can return it to cash later.
The reality is that there are two faces to the g wagon but the majority of people can’t get beyond the shouty one that is comprised of 90% of the people they hate and blame for everything when there is the whole other side that they are missing that contains the remaining 10% of the type of people they hate and blame for everything.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Tuesday 20th October 08:04
The pricing isn’t great but reflects the difficulty of finding one ( there have only been 3 or 4 LWB 500’s for sale in the last 3 or 4 years). Personally I find the SWB a little odd looking.
Rust is the main thing to keep on top of. They like to secretly rust from the inside!
My old man has a similar age G55, it's done about 80,000 miles and he loves it.
It is dreadful.
Majorly flakey electrics, rusty, rattles relentlessly, handles like it's got a broken drag link, evil in the wet, rides like a horse and cart, stability control isn't fit for purpose, spectacularly terrible fuel consumption, terrifyingly underbraked, doors sound like a bank vault but take three slams to shut, I could go on.
We've had it from a year old and, rust aside, none of these are recent developments.
Literally the only two things it does well are make an amusing noise and go amusingly fast in a (strictly) straight line.
It is dreadful.
Majorly flakey electrics, rusty, rattles relentlessly, handles like it's got a broken drag link, evil in the wet, rides like a horse and cart, stability control isn't fit for purpose, spectacularly terrible fuel consumption, terrifyingly underbraked, doors sound like a bank vault but take three slams to shut, I could go on.
We've had it from a year old and, rust aside, none of these are recent developments.
Literally the only two things it does well are make an amusing noise and go amusingly fast in a (strictly) straight line.
nickod said:
DonkeyApple said:
Yup. It’s incredibly rough though in earlier guise. The ex military ones are occasionally used as estate cars out here and they really are very basic.
It was around the late 90s that they, in very crude terms, turned it from an 80s Land Rover into an 80s Range Rover.
That sort of ten year period up to about 2010 before they became the formal means to apply for an unexplained wealth order is to me the sweet spot. You can get them with a silly engine (and the M113 SOHC V8 is one of the all time greats in my book), enough modern comforts, all the sensible things and the package still retains that silliness of a car from the past.
An interesting thing about the G Wagon that those who like to mock are probably blissfully unaware of is that they are the only modern Mercedes product where the dedicated forums contain owners who are literate and intelligent and not just slinging random, made up words down in an attempt to discuss what wheels or chip to have smashed into their rented Uber by some back street gibbon.
I find the prices these days a farce but the price just represents the number they want to build and the desire of the greater number of people who want to buy one. It means that the older ones are over inflated but it also means that you will get that money back. You may need to add an extra and unwarranted £20k into the pot but that money isn’t lost but just temporarily crossed to a different asset class and you can return it to cash later.
The reality is that there are two faces to the g wagon but the majority of people can’t get beyond the shouty one that is comprised of 90% of the people they hate and blame for everything when there is the whole other side that they are missing that contains the remaining 10% of the type of people they hate and blame for everything.
Agree with this. The 90’s G500 is understated compared to the later cars. I love mine and it’s a keeper. There is something about them that is difficult to put into words. Also it gets nothing but positive comments in my experience. It was around the late 90s that they, in very crude terms, turned it from an 80s Land Rover into an 80s Range Rover.
That sort of ten year period up to about 2010 before they became the formal means to apply for an unexplained wealth order is to me the sweet spot. You can get them with a silly engine (and the M113 SOHC V8 is one of the all time greats in my book), enough modern comforts, all the sensible things and the package still retains that silliness of a car from the past.
An interesting thing about the G Wagon that those who like to mock are probably blissfully unaware of is that they are the only modern Mercedes product where the dedicated forums contain owners who are literate and intelligent and not just slinging random, made up words down in an attempt to discuss what wheels or chip to have smashed into their rented Uber by some back street gibbon.
I find the prices these days a farce but the price just represents the number they want to build and the desire of the greater number of people who want to buy one. It means that the older ones are over inflated but it also means that you will get that money back. You may need to add an extra and unwarranted £20k into the pot but that money isn’t lost but just temporarily crossed to a different asset class and you can return it to cash later.
The reality is that there are two faces to the g wagon but the majority of people can’t get beyond the shouty one that is comprised of 90% of the people they hate and blame for everything when there is the whole other side that they are missing that contains the remaining 10% of the type of people they hate and blame for everything.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Tuesday 20th October 08:04
The pricing isn’t great but reflects the difficulty of finding one ( there have only been 3 or 4 LWB 500’s for sale in the last 3 or 4 years). Personally I find the SWB a little odd looking.
Rust is the main thing to keep on top of. They like to secretly rust from the inside!
I've had mine for about 5 years now after it was imported from Japan.
Very low miles and it still has the factory applied wax on the underside after 27 years.
It's not been without issues though and has recently enjoyed a new head gasket and all-new ignition components. There have been several central locking solenoids, a few window lifter motors, alternator, brake calipers, etc, etc.
It's latest foible is the lights in the roof over the rear door don't switch off and yet the switch in the door pillar is OK!
I have never had a vehicle with such vague steering either.
I do love it though but would like to experience a G that's more modern and comfortable.
Strangely enough, my wife likes it too. She loves driving it and despite it only have rudimentary seat adjustment mechanism (i.e. a large wheel) she can get comfortable. A previous FFRR with a million motor driven seat combinations was unable to accommodate her needs.
It's right that G drivers tend to wave.
Definitely a shame they are now attracting a bit of a negative image though. But, maybe that's just the newer ones?
As you see, I'm not a huge fan of modern either.
Edited by 55palfers on Tuesday 20th October 14:48
bluemason said:
Dapster said:
And if when driving that you're thinking, "what this ultra stable chassis really needs to exploit its sporting pretensions is around 890 bhp" then of course, Brabus has it covered....
https://www.brabus.com/en/supercars/brabus-gv12-90...
hideous
Well I sort of agree but the thought of pissing off almost every other SUV driver on the road is a delicious prospect on every level .https://www.brabus.com/en/supercars/brabus-gv12-90...
hideous
55palfers said:
nickod said:
DonkeyApple said:
Yup. It’s incredibly rough though in earlier guise. The ex military ones are occasionally used as estate cars out here and they really are very basic.
It was around the late 90s that they, in very crude terms, turned it from an 80s Land Rover into an 80s Range Rover.
That sort of ten year period up to about 2010 before they became the formal means to apply for an unexplained wealth order is to me the sweet spot. You can get them with a silly engine (and the M113 SOHC V8 is one of the all time greats in my book), enough modern comforts, all the sensible things and the package still retains that silliness of a car from the past.
An interesting thing about the G Wagon that those who like to mock are probably blissfully unaware of is that they are the only modern Mercedes product where the dedicated forums contain owners who are literate and intelligent and not just slinging random, made up words down in an attempt to discuss what wheels or chip to have smashed into their rented Uber by some back street gibbon.
I find the prices these days a farce but the price just represents the number they want to build and the desire of the greater number of people who want to buy one. It means that the older ones are over inflated but it also means that you will get that money back. You may need to add an extra and unwarranted £20k into the pot but that money isn’t lost but just temporarily crossed to a different asset class and you can return it to cash later.
The reality is that there are two faces to the g wagon but the majority of people can’t get beyond the shouty one that is comprised of 90% of the people they hate and blame for everything when there is the whole other side that they are missing that contains the remaining 10% of the type of people they hate and blame for everything.
Agree with this. The 90’s G500 is understated compared to the later cars. I love mine and it’s a keeper. There is something about them that is difficult to put into words. Also it gets nothing but positive comments in my experience. It was around the late 90s that they, in very crude terms, turned it from an 80s Land Rover into an 80s Range Rover.
That sort of ten year period up to about 2010 before they became the formal means to apply for an unexplained wealth order is to me the sweet spot. You can get them with a silly engine (and the M113 SOHC V8 is one of the all time greats in my book), enough modern comforts, all the sensible things and the package still retains that silliness of a car from the past.
An interesting thing about the G Wagon that those who like to mock are probably blissfully unaware of is that they are the only modern Mercedes product where the dedicated forums contain owners who are literate and intelligent and not just slinging random, made up words down in an attempt to discuss what wheels or chip to have smashed into their rented Uber by some back street gibbon.
I find the prices these days a farce but the price just represents the number they want to build and the desire of the greater number of people who want to buy one. It means that the older ones are over inflated but it also means that you will get that money back. You may need to add an extra and unwarranted £20k into the pot but that money isn’t lost but just temporarily crossed to a different asset class and you can return it to cash later.
The reality is that there are two faces to the g wagon but the majority of people can’t get beyond the shouty one that is comprised of 90% of the people they hate and blame for everything when there is the whole other side that they are missing that contains the remaining 10% of the type of people they hate and blame for everything.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Tuesday 20th October 08:04
The pricing isn’t great but reflects the difficulty of finding one ( there have only been 3 or 4 LWB 500’s for sale in the last 3 or 4 years). Personally I find the SWB a little odd looking.
Rust is the main thing to keep on top of. They like to secretly rust from the inside!
I've had mine for about 5 years now after it was imported from Japan.
Very low miles and it still has the factory applied wax on the underside after 27 years.
It's not been without issues though and has recently enjoyed a new head gasket and all-new ignition components. There have been several central locking solenoids, a few window lifter motors, alternator, brake calipers, etc, etc.
It's latest foible is the lights in the roof over the rear door don't switch off and yet the switch in the door pillar is OK!
I have never had a vehicle with such vague steering either.
I do love it though but would like to experience a G that's more modern and comfortable.
Strangely enough, my wife likes it too. She loves driving it and despite it only have rudimentary seat adjustment mechanism (i.e. a large wheel) she can get comfortable. A previous FFRR with a million motor driven seat combinations was unable to accommodate her needs.
It's right that G drivers tend to wave.
Definitely a shame they are now attracting a bit of a negative image though. But, maybe that's just the newer ones?
As you see, I'm not a huge fan of modern either.
Edited by 55palfers on Tuesday 20th October 14:48
Despite that I love it, I just wish I had discovered them earlier.
The noise of the G55 is completely different to any other supercharged M113 I've ever heard. My previous E55 was not a bad sounding car by any stretch of the imagination, but this is in a league of its own.
I'm not surprised that your wife likes it, but I can't explain why. It's the only car I've owned where two of my mates told me they wish I hadn't shown it to their wives as now their mrs want one.
And I'm not a fan of modern either.
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