RE: 2021 BMW M5 Competition | UK Review

RE: 2021 BMW M5 Competition | UK Review

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BlackTank

111 posts

143 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Wouldn't mind picking up one of these in about 4 years at the 30K price range as a nice, big family hauler.

Taylor James

3,111 posts

61 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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E39 M5 listed at around £60K fifteen or so years ago. There was a price cut at the end of the run but still a very expensive car back then.

pSyCoSiS

3,597 posts

205 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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That is lovely, but doesn't look as aggressive s the previous model, IMO.

And I agree with what others have said - the instrument cluster isn't great on these. Recently had a brand new E Class as a loan car from when my CLS was in for a recall, and the MBUX digital dash is much better.

leef44

4,388 posts

153 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Ecosseven said:
I admire the power, engineering and performance and it is certainly a very desirable car. But....................

I don't really see the appeal in the UK. How much faster would this be on UK roads than say a 530d or a 540i? The running costs will be huge as will the depreciation (even with a large discount).

Lovely colour though.
I know this always comes up in each thread but it's just about knowing you have the best 5 series. It's like a watch which you wear diving 300 metres or wear in space. It's like having a diamond because you know it's the hardest natural material on earth.

It's the same reason why someone owns a 720S instead of a 540C McLaren, even though you can't really use that performance on roads in this country.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,080 posts

212 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Taylor James said:
E39 M5 listed at around £60K fifteen or so years ago. There was a price cut at the end of the run but still a very expensive car back then.
E39 wasn't on sale 15 years ago.

Tango13

8,436 posts

176 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Taylor James said:
E39 M5 listed at around £60K fifteen or so years ago. There was a price cut at the end of the run but still a very expensive car back then.
E39 wasn't on sale 15 years ago.
I had one of the last ones sold which was on an '02 plate, I've heard there were a handful on '03 plates but I've not seen one.

pSyCoSiS

3,597 posts

205 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Tango13 said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Taylor James said:
E39 M5 listed at around £60K fifteen or so years ago. There was a price cut at the end of the run but still a very expensive car back then.
E39 wasn't on sale 15 years ago.
I had one of the last ones sold which was on an '02 plate, I've heard there were a handful on '03 plates but I've not seen one.
There are a few about, and Hexagon Classics were selling one a couple of years ago. IIRC, it was around £35k.

Love the E39 M5, and thoroughly miss mine. One of the few cars I genuinely regret selling. Last of the mechanical M5s.

Taylor James

3,111 posts

61 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Taylor James said:
E39 M5 listed at around £60K fifteen or so years ago. There was a price cut at the end of the run but still a very expensive car back then.
E39 wasn't on sale 15 years ago.
I said fifteen or so years back. Do you want to tell us exactly how many years and then how far out I was?

People like you are really weird.

Tango13

8,436 posts

176 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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pSyCoSiS said:
There are a few about, and Hexagon Classics were selling one a couple of years ago. IIRC, it was around £35k.

Love the E39 M5, and thoroughly miss mine. One of the few cars I genuinely regret selling. Last of the mechanical M5s.
That price seems a bit low for Hexagon, sure you didn't miss a zero off the end? wink

I put 160k on mine in the 12 years I owned it. If I had managed a big lottery win I would've sent it back to BMW for a total rebuild I thought that highly of it.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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WokkaWokka said:
I like the grill on this one.
hehe

_ppan

453 posts

69 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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dulcinea said:
I have a 19 reg as my daily drive. Its epic or docile, its up to you. It is though a 5 series so the interior is not the best (certainly is not as nice a place to be as my previous RRS) but that is far from a deal breaker as when I looked at the then competition 18 months ago it was the nicest of the lot (the new RS6 seems to be nice from the pics though). It also gets 22mpg in daily local driving and has seen low 30s on the motorway. Its a bit souless though and is probably best as a daily driver than something where you expect to get out of it with a huge grin on your face. I genuinely think it is too fast for the road for that. so much so I bought a 50 year old classic which barely gets to 80, drinks fuel at such a rate you can watch the dial drop and bangs and crashes on local roads. but it makes me feel happy and I think I am starting to understand that that is just so much more important than whether it does 0-60 in 4 secs or 3.8secs.
Well said! The best car period of my life consisted of a cheap daily and a really fun car for the weekends! Fun > outright performance.

Mouse Rat

1,812 posts

92 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Technically I admire these but they are soulless and definitely no longer sports saloons.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,080 posts

212 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Taylor James said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Taylor James said:
E39 M5 listed at around £60K fifteen or so years ago. There was a price cut at the end of the run but still a very expensive car back then.
E39 wasn't on sale 15 years ago.
I said fifteen or so years back. Do you want to tell us exactly how many years and then how far out I was?

People like you are really weird.
My point wasn't necessarily that you were 2-3 years out, I was questioning whether you did indeed mean the E39 or E60. Sorry for being weird/wanting to check which car you were on about.

Pumpsmynads

268 posts

156 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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This 5 is a lovely looking thing to me. It’s a classic.

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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So glad they resisted the temptation to put a goping M3/4 grill on it. Seriously how many sales have those grills cost them? I actually laughed out loud when I first saw them...

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Tango13 said:
pSyCoSiS said:
There are a few about, and Hexagon Classics were selling one a couple of years ago. IIRC, it was around £35k.

Love the E39 M5, and thoroughly miss mine. One of the few cars I genuinely regret selling. Last of the mechanical M5s.
That price seems a bit low for Hexagon, sure you didn't miss a zero off the end? wink

I put 160k on mine in the 12 years I owned it. If I had managed a big lottery win I would've sent it back to BMW for a total rebuild I thought that highly of it.
My November 02 E39 now has 160k and is running beautifully. Paint could do with a tickle up being critical, with a few small bubbles on two arches but honestly the best car I have ever owned. Even with only 400HP it is laugh out loud fast when spanked, goodness knows what 600 would be like...

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Augustus Windsock said:
Love the idea of this, and I’d take great delight in screaming up and down outside Theta Gruntburgers yurt whilst creating my own hole in the ozone layer.
But the reality is, even where I live on the edge of The Peak District, o wouldn’t be able to use the speed and power most of the time. And I’m not a great enough driver to get it anywhere near 10/10’s or even 8/10’s
So I’d rather have this and stick £50k in the bank..
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10139872?c...
I live on the edge of the Peak District, and have 510hp with just RWD. I get to use all 510hp on pretty much every journey.

Those that say you can't have simply never tried.

greenarrow

3,595 posts

117 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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fabulous car. The 5 series is definitely the looker in the BMW range now. Just out of interest, is the engine on this model more robust that previous engines? We've read some horror stories on Pistonheads over the years about issues with the F10 and E60 M5s.....

Carl_Manchester

12,198 posts

262 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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It’s a lovely thing in the photos, engine and straight line drivetrain is simply epic, even the seats are nice but as a daily, it’s not much smaller than an oil tanker, the thought of driving it around town and trying to park the thing gives me the shakes.

These cars used to be the company car directors go-to choice along with the RS6 avant but these days i think i that market has disappeared in the UK and BMW are having to chase 911 Carrera numbers hoping that they can bag a few family owners.

It’s not BMWs fault but the saloon car power war has transformed the M5 into something that you can’t really compute but you really try hard to justify it because the engineering is sublime.

£65k = Yes, it’s a no brainier
£118k = No, i’ll lose less money betting on blackjack.

At least the kids and the dog fit though right dads?

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Carl_Manchester said:
It’s a lovely thing in the photos, engine and straight line drivetrain is simply epic, even the seats are nice but as a daily, it’s not much smaller than an oil tanker, the thought of driving it around town and trying to park the thing gives me the shakes.

These cars used to be the company car directors go-to choice along with the RS6 avant but these days i think i that market has disappeared in the UK and BMW are having to chase 911 Carrera numbers hoping that they can bag a few family owners.

It’s not BMWs fault but the saloon car power war has transformed the M5 into something that you can’t really compute but you really try hard to justify it because the engineering is sublime.

£65k = Yes, it’s a no brainier
£118k = No, i’ll lose less money betting on blackjack.

At least the kids and the dog fit though right dads?
Yeah, I'd have a 911 Turbo if it was £75k, and the Ferrari F8 if it was under £90k.

As for being too big to drive and park....it's a 5-series. It's not a LWB S-Class or an Escalade. Have a word with yourself...!! wink