RE: Discovery Sport
Discussion
Argleton said:
Cold said:
Good to read PHers being bang up to date with their reference points. Mk5 Cortina, Mk1 Granada, a BL Princess, a Wolsey and a Vauxhall Cavalier are all being touted as yardsticks for this Discovery Sport.
Let's hope this LR is up to the mark of these luminary titans.
You're trying to be funny, but I don't think LR can actually live up to those, so it's not as outrageous as it sounds.Let's hope this LR is up to the mark of these luminary titans.
Cold said:
Argleton said:
Cold said:
Good to read PHers being bang up to date with their reference points. Mk5 Cortina, Mk1 Granada, a BL Princess, a Wolsey and a Vauxhall Cavalier are all being touted as yardsticks for this Discovery Sport.
Let's hope this LR is up to the mark of these luminary titans.
You're trying to be funny, but I don't think LR can actually live up to those, so it's not as outrageous as it sounds.Let's hope this LR is up to the mark of these luminary titans.
In reality for my personal use if it were in decent condition any of those 70's cars mentioned would be a perfectly acceptable way of getting around. I'd prefer the Wolsey, Princess or Granny admittedly; they are extremely comfortable and easily fast enough to keep up with traffic. While I wouldn't want to crash one I wouldn't want to crash my motorhome either - especially if it's towing my Locost.
When we looked at disco's I backed out after every reliability survey had them ranked bottom and when we asked friends/colleagues who had them what they thought none were positive when it came to the number of issues encountered. I can't see how a company famed for electrical issues producing an electrical car is going to go down well. When your sat nav/infotainment breaks you can still drive the car...
Picked up my Disco Sport P300e last Friday so thought I would leave a few comments on my views so far.
The Good:
- Space for us moving from a german saloon to this is a game changer with 2 small kids
- The car has great presence its obviously not Range Rover but they have tried made it feel like one with the R-Dynamic styling
- Moving between EV, ICE and Hybrid is seamless and works perfectly and the car is really smooth to drive with the 1.5 litre doing a nice job pulling such a heavy load when needed to
The Bad:
- Infotainment is actually beyond awful - I am gutted to have missed on PiviPro (lucky i can get around this with Apple CarPlay)
- Charging software or process isn't very intuitive doesn't seem to be any instructions or control beyond plug it in
- The actual range of EV (stated to be 32 when fully charged) is probably more like 18-20. This is obviously dependant on driving style and conditions. However, this works fine for us to do the local nursery drop and shopping run as a family car. One charge a week will cover me for £2.50ish.
I will possibly move my Octopus energy to the Agile tariff with my ohme intelligent charger which will mean I can charge in the night and be paid to use the the surplus on the grid.
Overall we're happy one week in so lets hope the reliability holds up because the horror stories of Land Rover worry me still smile
The Good:
- Space for us moving from a german saloon to this is a game changer with 2 small kids
- The car has great presence its obviously not Range Rover but they have tried made it feel like one with the R-Dynamic styling
- Moving between EV, ICE and Hybrid is seamless and works perfectly and the car is really smooth to drive with the 1.5 litre doing a nice job pulling such a heavy load when needed to
The Bad:
- Infotainment is actually beyond awful - I am gutted to have missed on PiviPro (lucky i can get around this with Apple CarPlay)
- Charging software or process isn't very intuitive doesn't seem to be any instructions or control beyond plug it in
- The actual range of EV (stated to be 32 when fully charged) is probably more like 18-20. This is obviously dependant on driving style and conditions. However, this works fine for us to do the local nursery drop and shopping run as a family car. One charge a week will cover me for £2.50ish.
I will possibly move my Octopus energy to the Agile tariff with my ohme intelligent charger which will mean I can charge in the night and be paid to use the the surplus on the grid.
Overall we're happy one week in so lets hope the reliability holds up because the horror stories of Land Rover worry me still smile
Keep updating us; interesting to hear. One specific question; how is it (if you yet know) loaded up on dual carriageway or motorway? Does the power trip have enough grunt on a long run?
Regarding range, Mrs Digga's new I-Pace arrived this week, but she s working from home and insisted I used it to commute on Thursday. My commute's pretty hilly - 15 mins by car around the hills but an hour cycling direct - and the 9 miles used 18 miles of theoretical range.
Cha rings seems intuitive; plug into car, then into wall/socket then switch on.... But yes, no instructions!
Regarding range, Mrs Digga's new I-Pace arrived this week, but she s working from home and insisted I used it to commute on Thursday. My commute's pretty hilly - 15 mins by car around the hills but an hour cycling direct - and the 9 miles used 18 miles of theoretical range.
Cha rings seems intuitive; plug into car, then into wall/socket then switch on.... But yes, no instructions!
[quote=Digga]Keep updating us; interesting to hear. One specific question; how is it (if you yet know) loaded up on dual carriageway or motorway? Does the power trip have enough grunt on a long run?
Not used on the motorway yet - hit a dual carriageway at 50mph with 4 passengers and no issues or major grunt! P.s now I have installed and configured the InControl remote feel like there is some good transparency on the journeys in correlation the mileage being done. Will keep this thread posted as I experience.
Not used on the motorway yet - hit a dual carriageway at 50mph with 4 passengers and no issues or major grunt! P.s now I have installed and configured the InControl remote feel like there is some good transparency on the journeys in correlation the mileage being done. Will keep this thread posted as I experience.
jgrewal said:
Not used on the motorway yet - hit a dual carriageway at 50mph with 4 passengers and no issues or major grunt! P.s now I have installed and configured the InControl remote feel like there is some good transparency on the journeys in correlation the mileage being done. Will keep this thread posted as I experience.
I guess a 200hp IC engine, in and of itself, was enough for any Defender 110, so adding a 100hp motor will only help.The apps work pretty well. I guess you can get your car's climate control up and running on a timer or manually so it's all demisted/de-frosted in advance too?
Digga said:
guess a 200hp IC engine, in and of itself, was enough for any Defender 110, so adding a 100hp motor will only help.
The apps work pretty well. I guess you can get your car's climate control up and running on a timer or manually so it's all demisted/de-frosted in advance too?
Yep that’s an awesome feature. When you start the remote climate and defrost it uses it is power from the house when plugged in so you don’t use the batteries. Hence saving some range on heating etc The apps work pretty well. I guess you can get your car's climate control up and running on a timer or manually so it's all demisted/de-frosted in advance too?
Cold said:
Good to read PHers being bang up to date with their reference points. Mk5 Cortina, Mk1 Granada, a BL Princess, a Wolsey and a Vauxhall Cavalier are all being touted as yardsticks for this Discovery Sport.
Let's hope this LR is up to the mark of these luminary titans.
I think I'd have any of those over the Evoque or Discovery Sport, particularly the Mk1 Granada. Let's hope this LR is up to the mark of these luminary titans.
Triumph Man said:
I think I'd have any of those over the Evoque or Discovery Sport, particularly the Mk1 Granada.
Digga snr had, from new, a sort of emerald green metallic Mk1 GL, with black vinyl roof. Ace. Was followed by a gold V6 Mk2, which was the first car I ever drove, aged 10. 
For everyday and mod-con convenience, I'd take either of the former, but cannot argue against a Mk1 or 2 Granda. Ever.
Digga said:
jgrewal said:
Not used on the motorway yet - hit a dual carriageway at 50mph with 4 passengers and no issues or major grunt! P.s now I have installed and configured the InControl remote feel like there is some good transparency on the journeys in correlation the mileage being done. Will keep this thread posted as I experience.
I guess a 200hp IC engine, in and of itself, was enough for any Defender 110, so adding a 100hp motor will only help.The apps work pretty well. I guess you can get your car's climate control up and running on a timer or manually so it's all demisted/de-frosted in advance too?
CDP said:
Digga said:
jgrewal said:
Not used on the motorway yet - hit a dual carriageway at 50mph with 4 passengers and no issues or major grunt! P.s now I have installed and configured the InControl remote feel like there is some good transparency on the journeys in correlation the mileage being done. Will keep this thread posted as I experience.
I guess a 200hp IC engine, in and of itself, was enough for any Defender 110, so adding a 100hp motor will only help.The apps work pretty well. I guess you can get your car's climate control up and running on a timer or manually so it's all demisted/de-frosted in advance too?
So I have a P300e HSE- the battery does not charge from the ICE when driving, only regenerative braking/coasting puts anything into the batteries.
Electric range - 38 miles - nowhere near, when fully charged the display shows 22 miles - yes 22! Drive it like Miss Daisy and this is almost possible, in reality more like 16. Pulls like a train, is rapid to a point and leaves a lot of 'performance cars' in it's wake, handles well, even with a flat battery it performs strongly - to a point. If this car will do 130mph I'll eat my hat, I have not tried this by the way but there is a definite lack of 'puff' at higher speeds. Overall consumption - bearing in mined juiced up with 14.4kw of electricity and a full tank of unleaded - 33mpg - and a range of 335 miles. In petrol only mode sub 30mpg and sometimes sub 20. My V6 3.0 Disco 5 - 34 mpg and no electric costs!
It's a sensible company car due to tax, it's a sensible commuter car, school run, shopping trolley - anything else think hard!
Electric range - 38 miles - nowhere near, when fully charged the display shows 22 miles - yes 22! Drive it like Miss Daisy and this is almost possible, in reality more like 16. Pulls like a train, is rapid to a point and leaves a lot of 'performance cars' in it's wake, handles well, even with a flat battery it performs strongly - to a point. If this car will do 130mph I'll eat my hat, I have not tried this by the way but there is a definite lack of 'puff' at higher speeds. Overall consumption - bearing in mined juiced up with 14.4kw of electricity and a full tank of unleaded - 33mpg - and a range of 335 miles. In petrol only mode sub 30mpg and sometimes sub 20. My V6 3.0 Disco 5 - 34 mpg and no electric costs!
It's a sensible company car due to tax, it's a sensible commuter car, school run, shopping trolley - anything else think hard!
Daveyis said:
So I have a P300e HSE- the battery does not charge from the ICE when driving, only regenerative braking/coasting puts anything into the batteries.
Electric range - 38 miles - nowhere near, when fully charged the display shows 22 miles - yes 22! Drive it like Miss Daisy and this is almost possible, in reality more like 16. Pulls like a train, is rapid to a point and leaves a lot of 'performance cars' in it's wake, handles well, even with a flat battery it performs strongly - to a point. If this car will do 130mph I'll eat my hat, I have not tried this by the way but there is a definite lack of 'puff' at higher speeds. Overall consumption - bearing in mined juiced up with 14.4kw of electricity and a full tank of unleaded - 33mpg - and a range of 335 miles. In petrol only mode sub 30mpg and sometimes sub 20. My V6 3.0 Disco 5 - 34 mpg and no electric costs!
It's a sensible company car due to tax, it's a sensible commuter car, school run, shopping trolley - anything else think hard!
Thanks. Interesting!Electric range - 38 miles - nowhere near, when fully charged the display shows 22 miles - yes 22! Drive it like Miss Daisy and this is almost possible, in reality more like 16. Pulls like a train, is rapid to a point and leaves a lot of 'performance cars' in it's wake, handles well, even with a flat battery it performs strongly - to a point. If this car will do 130mph I'll eat my hat, I have not tried this by the way but there is a definite lack of 'puff' at higher speeds. Overall consumption - bearing in mined juiced up with 14.4kw of electricity and a full tank of unleaded - 33mpg - and a range of 335 miles. In petrol only mode sub 30mpg and sometimes sub 20. My V6 3.0 Disco 5 - 34 mpg and no electric costs!
It's a sensible company car due to tax, it's a sensible commuter car, school run, shopping trolley - anything else think hard!
Can you set/adjust the level of regen harvesting like in the I-Pace? I have found, driving my wife's I-pace, that on full regen, you only need hit brakes for stop, but for many junctions and roundabouts, you never need touch the brakes at all and it works really nicely IMHO.
For me, I thin the PHEV would work, albeit slightly costly on the occasional long run, it would be far, far more efficient for commutes as I can recharge at each end of the journey.
Sadly there is nothing I can see to adjust the regen - the handbook is none existent, all online. I had to google how to unplug the lead - you wait 6 seconds after unlocking then you have 30 seconds to unplug then it locks the lead again - great for security but having to lock the car then unlcok and wait 6 seconds after loading your shopping is a pain. I plugged into a charger on a services that was 60p per KWh - only showed costs once plugged in - then I couldn't unplug and ended up using the emergency release lever as the charge station refused to 'delink'!
Daveyis said:
I plugged into a charger on a services that was 60p per KWh - only showed costs once plugged in
FWIW I gather from mates who have Porsche Taycan EV's that if you join/subscribe to a service (e.g. Polar), it is much cheaper. There is more on the thread about the Taycan: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...Digga said:
Daveyis said:
I plugged into a charger on a services that was 60p per KWh - only showed costs once plugged in
FWIW I gather from mates who have Porsche Taycan EV's that if you join/subscribe to a service (e.g. Polar), it is much cheaper. There is more on the thread about the Taycan: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...£8.64 / £1.10p a litre of petrol = 7.85L (1.73 gallons)
22 miles electric range / 1.73 gallons = 12.7 mpg
I’d give the 60p a Kw electric, a miss
RUSSELLM said:
Digga said:
Daveyis said:
I plugged into a charger on a services that was 60p per KWh - only showed costs once plugged in
FWIW I gather from mates who have Porsche Taycan EV's that if you join/subscribe to a service (e.g. Polar), it is much cheaper. There is more on the thread about the Taycan: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...£8.64 / £1.10p a litre of petrol = 7.85L (1.73 gallons)
22 miles electric range / 1.73 gallons = 12.7 mpg
I’d give the 60p a Kw electric, a miss
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