VMax Punch Up

[A1VDY]

fastraxx said:

SidewaysSi said:

I think you know what I mean..

I don't think I do. Do you really want people speaking init or mandem language in a professional environment with colleagues all over the world/trying to influence senior management / communicate to them?

^
This.
I only have two small businesses, one being used car sales in the UK and the other a small car hire place in Malaga (17 cars, all well hammered, the newest being 4 years) so there's no middle/ senior management here but still wouldn't employ the innit/bruvs at any cost..

[petop]

fastraxx said:

SidewaysSi said:

I think you know what I mean..

I don't think I do. Do you really want people speaking init or mandem language in a professional environment with colleagues all over the world/trying to influence senior management / communicate to them?

God no! I work for a French company and each day i have a Teams meeting for a hour or so. They all speak english and the last thing i need in a technical type job and company is anything other than correct and proper english!!

[DonkeyApple]

fiju said:

So where does this MLE stuff leave us? What are the oldest users of such language? Do they ever amount to anything? Surely any respectful position within a hierarchy wouldn't allow such people through the door in the first place? To date, I've seen one black guy in his early 30's as an engineering project manager who talks like a black londoner, albeit whilst still acting professional/normal.

The world doesn’t really change. It doesn’t matter how smart, diligent or hard working a person is if they send in a CV written in coloured crayon and smeared with faecal waste or turn up for the interview in just dirty under pants and with the word ‘’ scribbled in their forehead, the thick st in the corner who put the right clothes on and can string a coherent sentence together is going to reluctantly be given the job. Or you chose the immigrant with poor English as he has proven that he is trying to fit by learning the langauahe and has travelled a long way so more likely to be keen to work and generally less trouble.

All that has changed is that it is seemingly a human right to deliberately chose to retard oneself and then blame everyone else who didn’t. But that minority probably always have and maybe the only difference is that they have a platform today?

It’s been my experience in life that the single most common link among people who chose to do nothing and then blame others is the absence of a credible father figure or male role model. Whether that has any genuine basis in fact I don’t know but few people seem to be strong enough to compensate for terrible parents.

The flip side though is enormous. We don’t all want to be one homogenous group but a group that contains sub groups and differences for starters. Regional accents are good, changing language is good as is evolution and moving forward. Alongside that social media is good. In the last 20 years the number of job types for intelligent people has expanded massively and included new roles that don’t require formal educations. This is a great thing for society that for many years could only offer criminality, sport or prostitution as a means for intelligent but uneducated people to earn money beyond basic labouring.

It’s amazing that smart people now have so many new routes to success and because backgrounds are likely to be different then so is language and groups also always like their own language to divide themselves from other groups.

And alongside all the new and important opportunity it’s inconceivable that you won’t get bellends scrapping in the mud because it’s what humans do and they love it. They do it from all walks of life and at all ages. It’s obviously more common among the younger and those who grew up with violence being a more common path to solution but no segment of society is immune from the base human desire to roll in filth like a caveman while iterating caveman uggs.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Monday 26th October 08:48

[b80]

markcoznottz said:

There was a bad fight at ascot a couple of years ago which was reported in the mail, and which was a group of white chavs iirc. It’s been a problem for a while, whether it’s a reflection of society, binge drinking etc. It’s hard to keep events exclusive and make money.

yes and although it's only small pockets, not exactly mass riots, people from all classes can turn into complete idiots once smashed. people pissing from exec/corp boxes at cheltenham etc

plus there are plenty of people out there with money who can pay any realistic asking price for events; social media 'celebs', footballers, drug dealers, entrepreneurs etc. all who of whom will have the type of characters who can be 'disruptive' once they;ve had a few.

also likely to come across more people on coke from those demographics, which usually amplifies egos, overconfidence and generally thinking your gods gift.

Edited by b80 on Monday 26th October 08:41

Edited by b80 on Monday 26th October 08:43

[DonkeyApple]

b80 said:

markcoznottz said:

There was a bad fight at ascot a couple of years ago which was reported in the mail, and which was a group of white chavs iirc. It’s been a problem for a while, whether it’s a reflection of society, binge drinking etc. It’s hard to keep events exclusive and make money.

yes and although it's only small pockets, not exactly mass riots, people from all classes can turn into complete idiots once smashed. people pissing from exec/corp boxes at cheltenham etc

plus there are plenty of people out there with money who can pay any realistic asking price for events; social media 'celebs', footballers, drug dealers, entrepreneurs etc. all who of whom will have the type of characters who can be 'disruptive' once they;ve had a few.

also likely to come across more people on coke from those demographics, which usually amplifies egos, overconfidence and generally thinking your gods gift.

Edited by b80 on Monday 26th October 08:41

Edited by b80 on Monday 26th October 08:43

True but don’t be misguided by the words ‘Royal’ and ‘Ascot’. The event itself is essentially a large collection of rival Wetherspoon and flatroof pub gangs dragged in from around the UK, shoved into an open air pen and force fed alcohol until they start either rutting or fighting like base animals. It’s the event they used to formulate the Jeremy Kyle show. Meanwhile, like the JK audience, others pay money to look down on them and mock and jeer while desperately trying to ram their whole face up the backside of anyone who has met the Queen or owns a string of poloponies. It’s all a bit too Romanesque.

[Alex_225]

Good to see some chavvy scum ruining what I understand is a decent enough event. Bunch of knuckle draggers.

Sadly these types of people are what put me off attending the Goodwood Breakfast Meets. I used to go to those back in about 2011/12 then had a bit of a break for a few years.

Last one I attended was full of chavvy families with kids scooting round the cars parked up amongst others who weren't dissimilar to those highlighted in these videos. Put me right off as it used to be genuine car enthusiasts and now there's a good percentage of people who don't respect the cars.

[Boosted LS1]

slopes said:

A1VDY said:

The queen's English has all but disappeared, taken over by the Asian inner city way.
Much of it is incomprehensible to those not having been exposed to it.
This hasn't crept into other European languages as it has in the UK. I'm fluent Spanish (I have to be) and it's totally free of this dilution/contamination..

i think that's a somewhat harsh, it isn't just Asians that have changed the way youngsters speak, the vast majority of it is due to British youths wanting to sound like Gangsta types from the US or wanting to sound like Jamaicans/Caribbeans etc.
I was brought up in the East Midlands close to Leicester and the Indian population of Leicester spilled over into the surrounding areas and back then, they often spoke better English than some of my friends and i. Still do for that matter but chavvy types are the same no matter what race or culture they come from, there are pure bred english types who were born and brought up in Hertfordshire who talk just the same.

Some of us are getting old and don't understand language that da yoof use these days

Ten years ago my wife asked a group of youngsters why they were speaking like black men, jamaicans. They called her a racist lol.

[SidewaysSi]

Plenty of first generation immigrants work sodding hard in my experience. And many of their kids do too - I work with lots of people from different backgrounds. Some of the commitment levels are stunning.

There are dodgy individuals in all parts of society, caused by a variety of reasons.

[andyvvc]

What's the official line from the VMAX organisers with regards to all the 'hangers on' etc that seem to be at the events these days?

I last attended at Brunters in 2017 i think. The official emails from VMAX stated no additional persons allowed, no friends or spectators. Driver and passenger only.

When we turned up there were far more folks there than I expected, and a lot of cars parked up that never went near the runway. Also seemed to be a lot of folks swapping in-and-out of 'friends' cars to drive down the runway with zero experience of actually driving said car. (Cue lots of fishtailing etc)

It was an enjoyable day, but we left at the end a little disappointed that the event had been attended by so many... is this still the norm?

Perhaps I had a different expectation of a more 'limited' event and just need to re-evaluate my expectation of the events?

[b80]

SidewaysSi said:

Plenty of first generation immigrants work sodding hard in my experience. And many of their kids do too - I work with lots of people from different backgrounds. Some of the commitment levels are stunning.

There are dodgy individuals in all parts of society, caused by a variety of reasons.

yes that's my experience too. plenty that have the ability to leave their own country or realize what an opportunity they have compared to their old world, grasp it with both hands. lazy fkers are unlikely to have enough about them to leave their own countries in the first place.

[Chamon_Lee]

Gary29 said:

I could understand teenagers / early 20's acting like this, but both DMO and Ricky have children, partners, houses etc, it's like high school playground stuff.

Ricky's son has even been on his channel a few times, I'm guessing he'll be getting some stick in school this morning, poor kid.

Embarrassing all round. I honestly thought Ricky at least was above all this kind of nonsense.

They're not making it easy for the Police to keep turning a blind eye to their antics are they.

I think LLF is above all this nonsense - this is coming from someone who doesnt really like him or his channel but you could tell quite clearly over some of the media release hes uncomfortable. DMO reeled him in a peach to get into this rubbish. I guess he should have tried to ignore it and rise above it but its prob due to his demographic audience that he's felt the need to "represent"!.

Idiots all round if you ask me, grown ass old men acting like 10 year olds

[sxmwht]

I for one am glad the Ricky tt ended up looking a mess. He should have been locked up long ago for the ridiculous driving on his YouTube channel

[Ron240]

ensignia said:

The thinly veiled racism has been a sight to behold. Glad to see PH condoning it, too.

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[J4CKO]

ensignia said:

Do the out of touch Gammony types in here have the same response when large groups of white men scuffle and fight at Ascot every year or in the streets virtually every weekend?

The thinly veiled racism has been a sight to behold. Glad to see PH condoning it, too.

Its not a race thing, its a being a dick, fighting at an event thing. Produce good content without being a dangerous, feckless knob and people watch and like your content, Jamie, "Officially Gassed" makes some brilliant videos, nobody slagging him off here, hmm maybe thats because he wasnt fighting at vMax ?

You will find, usually in the lounge, a thread about Ascot, primarily focusing on some of the outfits the ladies wear, but also the parlous states people get into and the disgraceful antics they get up to

Are we not allowed an opinion on someones behavior unless they happen to be the same race/creed/colour/religion as ourselves ? We do need to ask ourselves what is our motivation but I really dont believe that this is because DMO and Ricky are black, its because they make bad decisions.

And seriously "Gammony", the irony in making an accusation of racism yet use a pejorative term specifically aimed at middle aged white men based on skin colour.

[Harrison-91xcg]

These guys make good content for various reasons, but should not pretend they are role models due to the attitude they have towards compliance with "rules".

I'm not one to complain about driving fast, but these guys are next level dangerous.

Jamie from Officially Gassed is a good role model though, although same issue with speed but at least he looks to be going legit with OG Battles..

I guess Yanni and Matt Watson are the cleanest

[2172cc]

Monkey London has his moments as well with some questionable public road driving, but blurs out the drivers face and refers to him as ' John'.

[PorkInsider]

sxmwht said:

He should have been locked up long ago for the ridiculous driving on his YouTube channel

Absolutely. He's a disgrace and not fit to have a driving licence. He's not alone among the YT clan in that, though.

Hard to believe that Jo Achilles was prosecuted for his driving on Snake Pass which, while not brilliant in terms of speeds etc, was completely unremarkable compared to what these other bellends get up to on public roads. God knows how they get away with it.

[PorkInsider]

Harrison-91xcg said:

I guess Yanni and Matt Watson are the cleanest

Yanni always come across as a decent bloke - someone might well be able to advise me differently as I've only seen him on CarWow vids with Matt Watson, to be honest.

And Matt himself is obviously a pro, and is non-controversial.

Generally I'm pretty careful about whose content I click on because I have this nagging feeling of not wanting to encourage the idiots.

[cayman-black]

Just watched this, that idiot fights like a girl. I think loskie sums it up right on the first page.

[alfaspecial]

Boosted LS1 said:

slopes said:

A1VDY said:

The queen's English has all but disappeared, taken over by the Asian inner city way.
Much of it is incomprehensible to those not having been exposed to it.
This hasn't crept into other European languages as it has in the UK. I'm fluent Spanish (I have to be) and it's totally free of this dilution/contamination..

i think that's a somewhat harsh, it isn't just Asians that have changed the way youngsters speak, the vast majority of it is due to British youths wanting to sound like Gangsta types from the US or wanting to sound like Jamaicans/Caribbeans etc.
I was brought up in the East Midlands close to Leicester and the Indian population of Leicester spilled over into the surrounding areas and back then, they often spoke better English than some of my friends and i. Still do for that matter but chavvy types are the same no matter what race or culture they come from, there are pure bred english types who were born and brought up in Hertfordshire who talk just the same.

Some of us are getting old and don't understand language that da yoof use these days

Ten years ago my wife asked a group of youngsters why they were speaking like black men, jamaicans. They called her a racist lol.

Have you ever read the book / seen the film ' A Clockwork Orange'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN-1Mup0UI0

It's set in a dystopian future Britain, where the streets are run by gangs of youths, committing crimes such as 'the old in-and-out' (rape) and ultra-violence (physical assault), seemingly without any social or moral responsibility - and the violent way society punishes those who are actually caught.

Anyway, the book makes great use of an invented language, NADSAT. In my copy there are a couple of chapters on just how Anthony Burgess constructed it - combining English with Russian influences.
Compare this with how, in OUR modern dystopia (world), we have combined English with other influences (Jamaican / Asian / Us Gangsta etc).
Very interesting.
And scary just how (unfortunately) so many of Anthony Burgess's predictions have become, seemingly without public debate, what the media call 'the new normal'.
Although fashion hasn't caught on......... we don't wear a codpiece over longjohns ......

This wiki article explains the language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadsat

Edited by alfaspecial on Monday 26th October 11:06