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alec.e said:
Official word:
"vmax200 Like so many of you who attended our event today and for those who watched on social media, we were disgusted by the disturbance caused by a small minority of people at today’s event. We will not tolerate such behaviour and will provide full support to the authorities to enable them to identify and deal with the perpetrators. Vmax200 has been a friendly, good-spirited event for real car enthusiasts for over 18 years. We will ensure those who caused problems today will never return as we do not want them as part of our Vmax200 family. Thank you for the patience of those who came to enjoy their day on the runway and who were impacted by the minority few, and we were grateful for your understanding. We look forward to seeing you in 2021 when we will be making changes to ensure our events are only attended by people who come as friends to enjoy their day. Thank you all for your messages of support this evening."
3...2...1....that’s wacist!!!!!"vmax200 Like so many of you who attended our event today and for those who watched on social media, we were disgusted by the disturbance caused by a small minority of people at today’s event. We will not tolerate such behaviour and will provide full support to the authorities to enable them to identify and deal with the perpetrators. Vmax200 has been a friendly, good-spirited event for real car enthusiasts for over 18 years. We will ensure those who caused problems today will never return as we do not want them as part of our Vmax200 family. Thank you for the patience of those who came to enjoy their day on the runway and who were impacted by the minority few, and we were grateful for your understanding. We look forward to seeing you in 2021 when we will be making changes to ensure our events are only attended by people who come as friends to enjoy their day. Thank you all for your messages of support this evening."
alec.e said:
Official word:
"vmax200 Like so many of you who attended our event today and for those who watched on social media, we were disgusted by the disturbance caused by a small minority of people at today’s event. We will not tolerate such behaviour and will provide full support to the authorities to enable them to identify and deal with the perpetrators. Vmax200 has been a friendly, good-spirited event for real car enthusiasts for over 18 years. We will ensure those who caused problems today will never return as we do not want them as part of our Vmax200 family. Thank you for the patience of those who came to enjoy their day on the runway and who were impacted by the minority few, and we were grateful for your understanding. We look forward to seeing you in 2021 when we will be making changes to ensure our events are only attended by people who come as friends to enjoy their day. Thank you all for your messages of support this evening."
That is a very poor statement - not sure who cleared that on the VMAX side, but it reflects very poorly on them."vmax200 Like so many of you who attended our event today and for those who watched on social media, we were disgusted by the disturbance caused by a small minority of people at today’s event. We will not tolerate such behaviour and will provide full support to the authorities to enable them to identify and deal with the perpetrators. Vmax200 has been a friendly, good-spirited event for real car enthusiasts for over 18 years. We will ensure those who caused problems today will never return as we do not want them as part of our Vmax200 family. Thank you for the patience of those who came to enjoy their day on the runway and who were impacted by the minority few, and we were grateful for your understanding. We look forward to seeing you in 2021 when we will be making changes to ensure our events are only attended by people who come as friends to enjoy their day. Thank you all for your messages of support this evening."
The first thing they should be making clear is a strong apology for letting in somebody who they have already banned (assuming on the basis they had intel to say there would be potential for disorder). If VMAX had the required level of security in place on entry, the day wouldn't be ruined for all the genuine people attending.
DMO & LLF have been having an on going spat, from the footage it looks like DMO goes up to Ricky punches get thrown (for me no issue if you see someone you really don't get on with sometimes things will happen) what I don't agree with is DMO's mate jumping in to make it a 2on1 situation.
For me there'd have been an even bigger punch up if it had been my car they'd been falling all over
For me there'd have been an even bigger punch up if it had been my car they'd been falling all over
Honestly surprised they showed so little respect for the cars there considering they are car enthusiasts.
As soon as the first fight occured I would've been out of the event. Surprised the event organisers never forcefully removed those involved... Shows a lack of security for such a high value event.
As soon as the first fight occured I would've been out of the event. Surprised the event organisers never forcefully removed those involved... Shows a lack of security for such a high value event.
k out of DMO. ZX10R NIN said:
DMO & LLF have been having an on going spat, from the footage it looks like DMO goes up to Ricky punches get thrown (for me no issue if you see someone you really don't get on with sometimes things will happen) what I don't agree with is DMO's mate jumping in to make it a 2on1 situation.
You seem to have a bit of a warped sense of what's acceptable or not. No problems with assaulting someone because you've been arguing with them on Youtube and ran into them at a car event, "oh well it happens". Then the whole 2v1 one thing... if you attack someone in a public place (whether its retaliation from an earlier incident(s) or not) then you should fully expect their friends to join in. Its no joke fighting on pavements/roads... fall the wrong way and you might end dead. I would have said you might have ended up with brain damage but it appears that all of the participants arrived at the venue with that in place already
ZX10R NIN said:
DMO & LLF have been having an on going spat, from the footage it looks like DMO goes up to Ricky punches get thrown (for me no issue if you see someone you really don't get on with sometimes things will happen) what I don't agree with is DMO's mate jumping in to make it a 2on1 situation.
For me there'd have been an even bigger punch up if it had been my car they'd been falling all over
Are you serious?For me there'd have been an even bigger punch up if it had been my car they'd been falling all over
Algarve said:
You seem to have a bit of a warped sense of what's acceptable or not. No problems with assaulting someone because you've been arguing with them on Youtube and ran into them at a car event, "oh well it happens".
Then the whole 2v1 one thing... if you attack someone in a public place (whether its retaliation from an earlier incident(s) or not) then you should fully expect their friends to join in. Its no joke fighting on pavements/roads... fall the wrong way and you might end dead. I would have said you might have ended up with brain damage but it appears that all of the participants arrived at the venue with that in place already
Then the whole 2v1 one thing... if you attack someone in a public place (whether its retaliation from an earlier incident(s) or not) then you should fully expect their friends to join in. Its no joke fighting on pavements/roads... fall the wrong way and you might end dead. I would have said you might have ended up with brain damage but it appears that all of the participants arrived at the venue with that in place already
Tell me where I said it was acceptable? What I said was sometimes you end up in a situation where you have to fight or flight. In that situation I would've taken Ricky's decision to (with a lot more accuracy
) fight. You say I have a warped sense of what's acceptable but a 2on1 is okay? The 2on1 was from those attacking LLF.
ZX10R NIN said:
Tell me where I said it was acceptable? What I said was sometimes you end up in a situation where you have to fight or flight. In that situation I would've taken Ricky's decision to (with a lot more accuracy
) fight. You say I have a warped sense of what's acceptable but a 2on1 is okay? The 2on1 was from those attacking LLF.
We walked away with dignity and respect.
Why couldn’t these fellows have followed our lead.
roadsmash said:
A 20 minute explanation. Who is going to watch that?ZX10R NIN said:
Algarve said:
You seem to have a bit of a warped sense of what's acceptable or not. No problems with assaulting someone because you've been arguing with them on Youtube and ran into them at a car event, "oh well it happens".
Then the whole 2v1 one thing... if you attack someone in a public place (whether its retaliation from an earlier incident(s) or not) then you should fully expect their friends to join in. Its no joke fighting on pavements/roads... fall the wrong way and you might end dead. I would have said you might have ended up with brain damage but it appears that all of the participants arrived at the venue with that in place already
Then the whole 2v1 one thing... if you attack someone in a public place (whether its retaliation from an earlier incident(s) or not) then you should fully expect their friends to join in. Its no joke fighting on pavements/roads... fall the wrong way and you might end dead. I would have said you might have ended up with brain damage but it appears that all of the participants arrived at the venue with that in place already
Tell me where I said it was acceptable? What I said was sometimes you end up in a situation where you have to fight or flight. In that situation I would've taken Ricky's decision to (with a lot more accuracy
) fight. You say I have a warped sense of what's acceptable but a 2on1 is okay? The 2on1 was from those attacking LLF.
These guys are fully grown adults with jobs, businesses etc, if they don't like each other then that's cool. It doesn't need to descend into an actual playground fight in a car park
In one of the videos the guy gets out the blue BMW and punches someone in the face. At that point for me its 100% acceptable for the victims friend to join in.
If I was watching and my friend got punched in the face I wouldn't be thinking "lets watch this and see who's the best fighter" I'd be thinking lets both fill him in so that neither of us end up seriously injured.
They should have all stayed home today and watched UFC 254, it was on in the Middle East so it was a 5pm kick off rather than the usual 3am. Maybe they'd have a learned something
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