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Driver101 said:
roadsmash said:
A 20 minute explanation. Who is going to watch that?Video from him earlier : "I wasn't there!!!" multiple times.
videos of him earlier : clear as day his big limp wristed fat face being involved in various assaults.
The guys clearly full of bullst.
Algarve said:
I would say "for me no issue if you see someone you really don't get on with sometimes things will happen" would kinda point to you saying its acceptable?
These guys are fully grown adults with jobs, businesses etc, if they don't like each other then that's cool. It doesn't need to descend into an actual playground fight in a car park
In one of the videos the guy gets out the blue BMW and punches someone in the face. At that point for me its 100% acceptable for the victims friend to join in.
If I was watching and my friend got punched in the face I wouldn't be thinking "lets watch this and see who's the best fighter" I'd be thinking lets both fill him in so that neither of us end up seriously injured.
They should have all stayed home today and watched UFC 254, it was on in the Middle East so it was a 5pm kick off rather than the usual 3am. Maybe they'd have a learned something
I still have no issue & sometimes things happen, at no point am I saying it's acceptable, you can make assumptions but don't state I've said it's acceptable.These guys are fully grown adults with jobs, businesses etc, if they don't like each other then that's cool. It doesn't need to descend into an actual playground fight in a car park
In one of the videos the guy gets out the blue BMW and punches someone in the face. At that point for me its 100% acceptable for the victims friend to join in.
If I was watching and my friend got punched in the face I wouldn't be thinking "lets watch this and see who's the best fighter" I'd be thinking lets both fill him in so that neither of us end up seriously injured.
They should have all stayed home today and watched UFC 254, it was on in the Middle East so it was a 5pm kick off rather than the usual 3am. Maybe they'd have a learned something
I've had situations where friends have fought I've never stepped in on a 1on1 & I'd never expect my friends to either to me that's the lowest.
If they've gone down yes I'd step in to stop the fight but I wouldn't start fighting the other person my mate would have to deal with the fact they were beaten by the more skilled person.
Good god, what a state.
I guess that's what happens when your main income source is from drug dealing, fixing up cat S write offs with stolen parts, or making videos for bellends on YouTube. Its not earnt, so it has little value.
It also completely ruins the prestige of any super cars these days. Cars that were once owned mainly by successful business owners/world famous celebrities etc, are now commonly found cruising the run down streets of certain slum towns. Stinking of weed as their cretinous owner pulls into McDonalds to buy a happy meal for his 13 year old lady friend in the passenger seat.
I guess that's what happens when your main income source is from drug dealing, fixing up cat S write offs with stolen parts, or making videos for bellends on YouTube. Its not earnt, so it has little value.
It also completely ruins the prestige of any super cars these days. Cars that were once owned mainly by successful business owners/world famous celebrities etc, are now commonly found cruising the run down streets of certain slum towns. Stinking of weed as their cretinous owner pulls into McDonalds to buy a happy meal for his 13 year old lady friend in the passenger seat.
ZX10R NIN said:
Algarve said:
You seem to have a bit of a warped sense of what's acceptable or not. No problems with assaulting someone because you've been arguing with them on Youtube and ran into them at a car event, "oh well it happens".
Then the whole 2v1 one thing... if you attack someone in a public place (whether its retaliation from an earlier incident(s) or not) then you should fully expect their friends to join in. Its no joke fighting on pavements/roads... fall the wrong way and you might end dead. I would have said you might have ended up with brain damage but it appears that all of the participants arrived at the venue with that in place already
Then the whole 2v1 one thing... if you attack someone in a public place (whether its retaliation from an earlier incident(s) or not) then you should fully expect their friends to join in. Its no joke fighting on pavements/roads... fall the wrong way and you might end dead. I would have said you might have ended up with brain damage but it appears that all of the participants arrived at the venue with that in place already
Tell me where I said it was acceptable? What I said was sometimes you end up in a situation where you have to fight or flight. In that situation I would've taken Ricky's decision to (with a lot more accuracy ) fight.
You say I have a warped sense of what's acceptable but a 2on1 is okay? The 2on1 was from those attacking LLF.
ZX10R NIN said:
If they've gone down yes I'd step in to stop the fight but I wouldn't start fighting the other person my mate would have to deal with the fact they were beaten by the more skilled person.
Jesus, I'm glad I'm not mates with you in real life then "beaten by the more skilled person".... you do realise we are referring to an assault in a car park rather than a choice to compete in a boxing match I assume?
Everyone involved looks to be pretty much equally to blame. Vmax organisers included.
The guys throwing the punches in multiple different incidents could have all acted like someone with an age and an IQ above 30 and got in their cars and went home. Instead they hung around and everything went from bad to worse.
Why didn't the organiser throw out the banned DMO when it obvious he was there? Why didn't they throw people out after the first one or two incidents?
just a complete st fest from start to finish.
roadsmash said:
Watched the whole thing - didn’t understand any of it BUT... I feel a sudden need to watch my level of smoke and I do feel gassed. jakesmith said:
Driver101 said:
A 20 minute explanation. Who is going to watch that?
I watched 8 mins and thought this must be longer than the incident. Saw it was 20 and thought ‘nah fam fuc DAT’ It was actually pretty enlightening. Explains the “beef” between DMO and Ricky, and DMO claims that the random guy in the grey tracksuit wasn’t his mate, it was just a random who had his own beef with Ricky.
Doesn’t make any of it acceptable of course.
Algarve said:
Jesus, I'm glad I'm not mates with you in real life then
"beaten by the more skilled person".... you do realise we are referring to an assault in a car park rather than a choice to compete in a boxing match I assume?
Everyone involved looks to be pretty much equally to blame. Vmax organisers included.
The guys throwing the punches in multiple different incidents could have all acted like someone with an age and an IQ above 30 and got in their cars and went home. Instead they hung around and everything went from bad to worse.
Why didn't the organiser throw out the banned DMO when it obvious he was there? Why didn't they throw people out after the first one or two incidents?
just a complete st fest from start to finish.
No you wouldn't because if you jumped in to make a 2on1 we'd be fighting "beaten by the more skilled person".... you do realise we are referring to an assault in a car park rather than a choice to compete in a boxing match I assume?
Everyone involved looks to be pretty much equally to blame. Vmax organisers included.
The guys throwing the punches in multiple different incidents could have all acted like someone with an age and an IQ above 30 and got in their cars and went home. Instead they hung around and everything went from bad to worse.
Why didn't the organiser throw out the banned DMO when it obvious he was there? Why didn't they throw people out after the first one or two incidents?
just a complete st fest from start to finish.
I wasn't referring to the idiots in the clip who threw repeated (I did say I'd be far more accurate) air shots, I was referring to if one of my friends was in as a 1on1 as I'm sure you read.
I agree everyone should've been thrown out.
notslopes said:
galtezza said:
Saw someone saying something earlier on vmax fb page about llf, no idea who that was, still dont.
If it's who i think it is, he made a video on Youtube moaning and whinging about how unfair BMW were because they pulled his PCP deal after he tuned the living daylights out of the M4 he got from them, then put a video up on Youtube detailing exactly what he had done.The general gist of his video was along the lines of " i dont think this is right, how can they do this to anyone" "i didn't realise i couldn't modify a car on a PCP deal, don't get caught out like i did" blah blah.
I lost interest after about 15 minutes of his rambling so i have no idea how it ended up.
Driver101 said:
roadsmash said:
A 20 minute explanation. Who is going to watch that?This is partly VMax’s fault if DMO was banned and yet he still appeared onsite in an event. Security dropped the ball there.
It’s not a good look for the company. Vmax is supposed to be a place for people to do runs in a relaxed environment. This behaviour shown has no place in the event I’d ban both parties. I don’t care who started it that’s irrelevant. People come to Vmax to unwind and enjoy their cars in a friendly environment. If you’re not going to respect that then you have no place there. Simple as that.
This is just childish behaviour and to see grown adults acting like this is pretty sad. It’s even sadder that people buy into this whole beef garbage and encourage it like it’s something of worth. If you want to crack on somewhere else then go for it. Just don’t spoil the event for others who are just trying to have a good time.
It’s not a good look for the company. Vmax is supposed to be a place for people to do runs in a relaxed environment. This behaviour shown has no place in the event I’d ban both parties. I don’t care who started it that’s irrelevant. People come to Vmax to unwind and enjoy their cars in a friendly environment. If you’re not going to respect that then you have no place there. Simple as that.
This is just childish behaviour and to see grown adults acting like this is pretty sad. It’s even sadder that people buy into this whole beef garbage and encourage it like it’s something of worth. If you want to crack on somewhere else then go for it. Just don’t spoil the event for others who are just trying to have a good time.
ZX10R NIN said:
I still have no issue & sometimes things happen, at no point am I saying it's acceptable, you can make assumptions but don't state I've said it's acceptable.
I've had situations where friends have fought I've never stepped in on a 1on1 & I'd never expect my friends to either to me that's the lowest.
If they've gone down yes I'd step in to stop the fight but I wouldn't start fighting the other person my mate would have to deal with the fact they were beaten by the more skilled person.
I'd agree with you if your mate was the one who started the fight, but if your mate was the one who was assaulted, you'd step in, you'd be a st mate otherwise. I've had situations where friends have fought I've never stepped in on a 1on1 & I'd never expect my friends to either to me that's the lowest.
If they've gone down yes I'd step in to stop the fight but I wouldn't start fighting the other person my mate would have to deal with the fact they were beaten by the more skilled person.
Anyway, this is all a load of bks, it's petty playground stuff from grown men, feel sorry for any decent car blokes/women at that event today who had to watch that crap unfold.
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