Discussion
Glade said:
Algarve said:
roadsmash said:
I think wishing someone out of a job, especially during these trying times, for taking part in a bit of fisticuffs makes you a bit of a wally to be honest.
I'm not wishing he was out of a job. If I was his boss I wouldn't even discipline him, I'd think it was funny. But I also wouldn't put out a bulls
t "I'm sorry" post in the first place either. roadsmash said:
You don’t know the full story other than he said, she said and I’m sure we’ve all done things we regret in the heat of the moment.
Well we've seen a video of him getting in a punch up whilst representing his employer at a work event... it probably goes a bit beyond what most of us have done in the heat of the moment at work 
I agree with Algarve. Its not about wishing someone out of a job, but if the company actually takes it seriously they should have a zero tolerance approach to aggressive behaviour of this type. Our lot lay it on thick and people have been fired for inappropriate behaviour on a "work night out", not even company events.
Its an empty statement.
I ask again, do you know exactly what caused the altercation?
No, you don’t, so how can you say it is worthy of gross misconduct?
We have just seen about 1 minutes‘ worth of video from a whole day of events.
You absolutely cannot claim this is gross misconduct without knowing the full picture.
fastraxx said:
selym said:
Show me your brass knuckles again Mr Chris!
He clearly idolises this low life criminal 'mr chris' by very fact of using 'mr' when hes just another type of low life. Unbelievable.OpulentBob said:
Working doors to impress 15 year old girls and sell drugs. What a noble profession.
Neither of those happened on the doors I worked, saying that I didn't do 14 years and neither did anyone I know. Its an astonishing amount of time to do it and says a fair amount about the poster tbfm3jappa said:
I totally agree, it is tragic. This new accent is totally made up (maybe they all are but im not old enough to realise that).
I remember when it started in the early 2000's and back then i believe it was white people trying to sound like what they thought black people spoke like. Perhaps trying to emulate Jamaican? But black people never actually sounded like this to my knowledge.
From there it has progressed and now middle class kids in villages up and down the country have this accent. I have a 16yr old apprentice and he's got hints of it, dont worry ive told him dont speak like that
Mix in a bit of Birmingham, bit of eastern european (albanian?) and we now have this new totally manufactured form of language.
The ones which make me genuinely laugh are when they speak like this but really politely, like they are putting on a phone voice.
Its here to stay now
Wherefore doth thee disrespect the english language so with thy mod'rn w'rds? t's almost as if 't be true language is a constantly evolving entity which reflects the society in which t is spoken.I remember when it started in the early 2000's and back then i believe it was white people trying to sound like what they thought black people spoke like. Perhaps trying to emulate Jamaican? But black people never actually sounded like this to my knowledge.
From there it has progressed and now middle class kids in villages up and down the country have this accent. I have a 16yr old apprentice and he's got hints of it, dont worry ive told him dont speak like that
Mix in a bit of Birmingham, bit of eastern european (albanian?) and we now have this new totally manufactured form of language.
The ones which make me genuinely laugh are when they speak like this but really politely, like they are putting on a phone voice.
Its here to stay now
Pericoloso said:
Fiisch said:
25 pages. I think this suggests LLF and DMO have successfully achieved what they set out to do.
Very astute businessmen and an ingenious marketing ploy.
It could be 100 pages ,not making any money for these tubes , most of us refuse to even watch the fight video .Very astute businessmen and an ingenious marketing ploy.
I haven't and won't be watching any tube stuff by LLF or DMO ,the latter of whom I'd never heard of before this thread .
A1VDY said:
What you're dealing with here is low IQ thugs/pathetic gangsta types, most of which can't even converse with others properly outside their own collective.
After leaving the army I worked on the doors for 14 years becoming area manager for a large security company run by a certain Mr Chris Bailey from Nottingham. We had teams of doormen sent to troubleshoot certain problem hotspots. There was very little we didn't see from a certain demographic and most was from the likes of what's available to see on these Youtube video's of Vmax.
I'd be very surprised if any of these bellends even had an actual job to lose. Any money they may have will come from elsewhere..
Posts like this really bring home to me how different bits of society live in such completely different worlds, and make me wonder if I too would be name-dropping criminals if I’d not moved away from home at eighteen to get a better education.After leaving the army I worked on the doors for 14 years becoming area manager for a large security company run by a certain Mr Chris Bailey from Nottingham. We had teams of doormen sent to troubleshoot certain problem hotspots. There was very little we didn't see from a certain demographic and most was from the likes of what's available to see on these Youtube video's of Vmax.
I'd be very surprised if any of these bellends even had an actual job to lose. Any money they may have will come from elsewhere..
Kent Border Kenny said:
Posts like this really bring home to me how different bits of society live in such completely different worlds, and make me wonder if I too would be name-dropping criminals if I’d not moved away from home at eighteen to get a better education.
Nah. By 18 you would have already known present and future criminals in your area.hyphen said:
A1VDY said:
After leaving the army I worked on the doors for 14 years becoming area manager for a large security company run by a certain Mr Chris Bailey from Nottingham.
Pay well? Cash bonuses? roadsmash said:
I’m not suggesting this is what happened, but for example, if the member of staff (or a close member of his family) was previously victim to some kind of racial/sexual/violent attack from one of the other people involved, would a retaliation be more justified? I.e not worthy of gross misconduct?
I ask again, do you know exactly what caused the altercation?
No, you don’t, so how can you say it is worthy of gross misconduct?
We have just seen about 1 minutes‘ worth of video from a whole day of events.
You absolutely cannot claim this is gross misconduct without knowing the full picture.
As an employer any kind of violence whilst representing a company would be straight into gross misconduct proceedings. There isn’t any answer that would get you out of it. I ask again, do you know exactly what caused the altercation?
No, you don’t, so how can you say it is worthy of gross misconduct?
We have just seen about 1 minutes‘ worth of video from a whole day of events.
You absolutely cannot claim this is gross misconduct without knowing the full picture.
Only thing I could think of would be clear self defence. Background is irrelevant.
I run a very small company. Standard contract these days have a social media clause. I sacked someone back in April for naming my company on Facebook. It’s straight gross misconduct in most contracts.
I've been to VMax once, at Bruntingthorpe in 2012. It was a fun day - quite a few people in RS4s with meth injection doing runs with a probe in the exhaust and the tuner in the passenger seat with a laptop, and then some other cars that were 200mph capable from new.
I chatted to the guys from Evolve about their exhaust for a V10 M5 - totally straightforward guys, obviously using the event to showcase their work, but nothing chavy or dodgy looking about them at all.
I have zero idea who DMO or Ricky are, and who they represent, but the only comment I can make is that the use of VMax by tuners to show what they can do seems to have escalated massively in the past 8 years. Not sure the event has the same ethos as it did when I went.
I chatted to the guys from Evolve about their exhaust for a V10 M5 - totally straightforward guys, obviously using the event to showcase their work, but nothing chavy or dodgy looking about them at all.
I have zero idea who DMO or Ricky are, and who they represent, but the only comment I can make is that the use of VMax by tuners to show what they can do seems to have escalated massively in the past 8 years. Not sure the event has the same ethos as it did when I went.
ntiz said:
roadsmash said:
I’m not suggesting this is what happened, but for example, if the member of staff (or a close member of his family) was previously victim to some kind of racial/sexual/violent attack from one of the other people involved, would a retaliation be more justified? I.e not worthy of gross misconduct?
I ask again, do you know exactly what caused the altercation?
No, you don’t, so how can you say it is worthy of gross misconduct?
We have just seen about 1 minutes‘ worth of video from a whole day of events.
You absolutely cannot claim this is gross misconduct without knowing the full picture.
As an employer any kind of violence whilst representing a company would be straight into gross misconduct proceedings. There isn’t any answer that would get you out of it. I ask again, do you know exactly what caused the altercation?
No, you don’t, so how can you say it is worthy of gross misconduct?
We have just seen about 1 minutes‘ worth of video from a whole day of events.
You absolutely cannot claim this is gross misconduct without knowing the full picture.
Only thing I could think of would be clear self defence. Background is irrelevant.
I run a very small company. Standard contract these days have a social media clause. I sacked someone back in April for naming my company on Facebook. It’s straight gross misconduct in most contracts.
As per my bolding, you’re obviously trigger happy when it comes to sacking people with no compassion so I’ll leave it there with you if that’s OK.
roadsmash said:
And do we categorically know it wasn’t self defence?
As per my bolding, you’re obviously trigger happy when it comes to sacking people with no compassion so I’ll leave it there with you if that’s OK.
Utter codswallop. Or are you one of these special people who believes that the rules don't apply to you? To accuse someone of what you have written has a word: libel.As per my bolding, you’re obviously trigger happy when it comes to sacking people with no compassion so I’ll leave it there with you if that’s OK.
Don1 said:
Utter codswallop. Or are you one of these special people who believes that the rules don't apply to you? To accuse someone of what you have written has a word: libel.
You are aware that in order for me to commit libel, then I must have damaged his reputation by a false statement? To do so, I must be aware of what his company is or even who he is? Talk about codswallop......
Instantly sacking someone a month into a pandemic because they put the company’s name on social media is harsh. It’s my opinion, and it’s not false.
Libel. Ha, what a wally.
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