RE: Mercedes to take 20 per cent stake in Aston Martin

RE: Mercedes to take 20 per cent stake in Aston Martin

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SSO

1,398 posts

191 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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sideways sid said:
Yep, a blinding deal for MB! But one that Aston probably needs to survive.

Imagine the MB boardroom:
"so we just won an order for up to 10,000 engines, drivetrains, infotainment etc etc per year..."
"did you have to discount it much?"
"no. the customer needs the kit more than we need to supply it, so is paying top price"
"and on top of that they're giving us 20% of the company"
"schnapps?"
That about sums it up. I just posted up an article on the Q3 results and Mercedes deal. Long term, Mercedes is basically getting to "rent" Aston for a few years before they need to decide to "buy".

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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sideways sid said:
Yep, a blinding deal for MB! But one that Aston probably needs to survive.

Imagine the MB boardroom:
"so we just won an order for up to 10,000 engines, drivetrains, infotainment etc etc per year..."
"did you have to discount it much?"
"no. the customer needs the kit more than we need to supply it, so is paying top price"
"and on top of that they're giving us 20% of the company"
"schnapps?"
That would only be true if no other car company would be interested in working with AM.

Do you think that is true? That only Mercedes want to sell to Aston?

There would already be multiple year agreements in place for Mercedes to supply their engines, so Aston would have enough time to go elsewhere if they couldn't agree a deal.

The article above says "up to 20%" which suggests its staggered and equity is granted based on meeting a criteria over time.

Edited by hyphen on Saturday 31st October 13:43

SSO

1,398 posts

191 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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hyphen said:
sideways sid said:
Yep, a blinding deal for MB! But one that Aston probably needs to survive.

Imagine the MB boardroom:
"so we just won an order for up to 10,000 engines, drivetrains, infotainment etc etc per year..."
"did you have to discount it much?"
"no. the customer needs the kit more than we need to supply it, so is paying top price"
"and on top of that they're giving us 20% of the company"
"schnapps?"
That would only be true if no other car company would be interested in working with AM.

Do you think that is true? That only Mercedes want to sell to Aston?

There would already be multiple year agreements in place for Mercedes to supply their engines, so Aston would have enough time to go elsewhere if they couldn't agree a deal.

The article above says "up to 20%" which suggests its staggered and equity is granted based on meeting a criteria over time.

Edited by hyphen on Saturday 31st October 13:43
The equity to MB gets issued in two tranches. One now and one in 2022/23 when the EV tech is delivered.

cib24

1,117 posts

153 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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cib24 said:
So, is Toto Wolf going to be done for insider trading?

I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have known about the deal all along when he bought shares in the rights issue. No way any Chinese wall would have worked in those circles and where he is connected.

Edited by cib24 on Tuesday 27th October 17:39
Interesting.