Superformance GT40?

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rlg43p

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1,231 posts

249 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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I was just out walking the dog in our rural village when what appeared to be a GT40 drove past. On leaving the village the driver opened the car up and it sounded glorious.

Wondering if it was a genuine GT40 I put the number plate into the MOT status check and it came back as a Superformance GT40, which I have never heard of.

The plate was UCA 613D, apparently registered in 2016.

How does a car registered in 2016 get a D registration plate?

V8OW

1,616 posts

197 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Not heard of them either but look pretty cool.

I'm guessing the plate is an old style plate put on to hide the fact it would otherwise be a '16' plate.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Oh yes they have been around for ages - cracking cars.

moktabe

912 posts

105 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Superformance are based in South Africa and their cars are built there.

The cars are so accurate copies of the originals that the company are licensed by Shelby to build them. They're not classed as kit cars or replicas but as continuation models.

Each car is given an original chassis number and are listed in the Shelby Car World Registry and the official GT40 Registry.

Vrn probably comes from the chassis number.

https://lemanscoupes.com/our-cars/

Olivera

7,140 posts

239 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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rlg43p said:
The plate was UCA 613D, apparently registered in 2016.

How does a car registered in 2016 get a D registration plate?
It doesn't - it's on a private plate?

Superformance cars are incredibly cool, and as others have noted are licensed continuation cars.

614-HSO

1,317 posts

48 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Very cool cars.

One of the best cars Tiff Needle has driven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSDiA2klltI

CanAm

9,205 posts

272 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Olivera said:
rlg43p said:
The plate was UCA 613D, apparently registered in 2016.

How does a car registered in 2016 get a D registration plate?
It doesn't - it's on a private plate?
Any car can have a plate transferred onto it which is older than the car.





Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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I saw one of their Shelby Daytona coupes on the M40 last year , suspected it was a copy not authentic 60s , only by

checking the reg on a DVLA site when i got home .

Looked ace and going much faster than I was .

The spinner of plates

17,698 posts

200 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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CanAm said:
Olivera said:
rlg43p said:
The plate was UCA 613D, apparently registered in 2016.

How does a car registered in 2016 get a D registration plate?
It doesn't - it's on a private plate?
Any car can have a plate transferred onto it which is older than the car.
Exactly.
You can make any car look older.
But you can’t make a car look younger.

Fastdruid

8,643 posts

152 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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moktabe said:
Superformance are based in South Africa and their cars are built there.

The cars are so accurate copies of the originals that the company are licensed by Shelby to build them. They're not classed as kit cars or replicas but as continuation models.

Each car is given an original chassis number and are listed in the Shelby Car World Registry and the official GT40 Registry.

Vrn probably comes from the chassis number.

https://lemanscoupes.com/our-cars/
That's not _entirely_ accurate.

The "toolroom" versions are accurate but the majority aren't *that* accurate. They claim something like 90% interchangable with the originals but let me explain how that works with an example.

The original GT40 had a cast magnesium pedal box, each pedal was on needle roller bearings. The Superformance has a fabricated steel pedal box with pedals on a mix of nylon and bronze bushes. The bias adjuster is a cheap nasty set of pinned rod ends rather than the original type. Yes, they are "interchangable", at a glance they look the same but they're far from being "accurate copies".

rlg43p

Original Poster:

1,231 posts

249 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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The spinner of plates said:
Exactly.
You can make any car look older.
But you can’t make a car look younger.
Of course, that makes sense.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Fastdruid said:
That's not _entirely_ accurate.

The "toolroom" versions are accurate but the majority aren't *that* accurate. They claim something like 90% interchangable with the originals but let me explain how that works with an example.

The original GT40 had a cast magnesium pedal box, each pedal was on needle roller bearings. The Superformance has a fabricated steel pedal box with pedals on a mix of nylon and bronze bushes. The bias adjuster is a cheap nasty set of pinned rod ends rather than the original type. Yes, they are "interchangable", at a glance they look the same but they're far from being "accurate copies".
Pay the licence holder some $$$$, buy some credibility for your expensive replica?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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They can get FIA HTP papers and can race in App K, and that’s all people care about....

Truckosaurus

11,290 posts

284 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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blade7 said:
Pay the licence holder some $$$$, buy some credibility for your expensive replica?
Or Shelby buys in African replica kit, screws it together in their Vegas factory and sells at a massive premium as a 'Genuine Shelby'.

Byker28i

59,816 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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They look really good. Quite a few of the owners took part in the promotion for the Ford v Ferrari movie

Glenn63

2,757 posts

84 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Lemans coupes (UK dealer of superformance) is my first visit when my numbers come in for a 427 cobra cloud9

CanAm

9,205 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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moktabe said:
Superformance are based in South Africa and their cars are built there.

The cars are so accurate copies of the originals that the company are licensed by Shelby to build them. They're not classed as kit cars or replicas but as continuation models.

Each car is given an original chassis number and are listed in the Shelby Car World Registry and the official GT40 Registry.

Vrn probably comes from the chassis number.

https://lemanscoupes.com/our-cars/
Lots of smoke and mirrors here. Shelby do not own the rights to the GT40. It was bought in the 1980s by a British company, Safir Engineering who began making the GT40 MkV "continuation" cars. The rights then appear to have been bought in 1999 by an American company, SAFIR GT40 SPARES. (Unfortunately I believe Ford never copyrighted the name GT40)

The Superformance cars are licensed by Safir GT40 Spares, not by Shelby. The so-called Official GT40 Registry.is run by Safir GT40 Spares and is not connected to the Ford Motor company. You could say that they have a bit of a financial interest in running this registry.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Truckosaurus said:
Or Shelby buys in African replica kit, screws it together in their Vegas factory and sells at a massive premium as a 'Genuine Shelby'.
Genuine Shelby. Is that like Genuine TVR?

jeff666

2,323 posts

191 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Fastdruid said:
That's not _entirely_ accurate.

The "toolroom" versions are accurate but the majority aren't *that* accurate. They claim something like 90% interchangable with the originals but let me explain how that works with an example.

The original GT40 had a cast magnesium pedal box, each pedal was on needle roller bearings. The Superformance has a fabricated steel pedal box with pedals on a mix of nylon and bronze bushes. The bias adjuster is a cheap nasty set of pinned rod ends rather than the original type. Yes, they are "interchangable", at a glance they look the same but they're far from being "accurate copies".
I would think Gelscoe are the guys who do the rivet correct copies ?

Fastdruid

8,643 posts

152 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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jeff666 said:
Fastdruid said:
That's not _entirely_ accurate.

The "toolroom" versions are accurate but the majority aren't *that* accurate. They claim something like 90% interchangable with the originals but let me explain how that works with an example.

The original GT40 had a cast magnesium pedal box, each pedal was on needle roller bearings. The Superformance has a fabricated steel pedal box with pedals on a mix of nylon and bronze bushes. The bias adjuster is a cheap nasty set of pinned rod ends rather than the original type. Yes, they are "interchangable", at a glance they look the same but they're far from being "accurate copies".
I would think Gelscoe are the guys who do the rivet correct copies ?
Yes, although they're not the only ones. They are cloud9 though.

Their site should be blocked by any decent pr0n filter! wink

https://gelscoemotorsport.com/