Anyone with a 200k+ miles petrol car

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Flanners said:

Could it be that many of the high milers are from the modern 'golden age' which has now gone and the modern offerings are built with planned destruction to do 100K/a PCP deal and then fail and then quickly become uneconomical to repair?

You mean like Vauxhall's much lauded 'lifetime warranty' or 100k miles. Is that still a thing? Or have they quietly dropped that marketing disaster?

[AC43]

My previous E500 passed its MOT last December on 170k miles. The picture is when I had it. The only clue to its use was the driver's seat bolster which was showing signs of wear when I sold it in the mid-140's.

[MuscleSedan]

Flanners said:

Could it be that many of the high milers are from the modern 'golden age' which has now gone and the modern offerings are built with planned destruction to do 100K/a PCP deal and then fail and then quickly become uneconomical to repair?

The biggest factor is maintenance as always, but it's surprising how much later stuff ( broadly speaking 2010 onwards ) that I see in the trade that's had a new engine before 100k miles. Sometimes much newer and lower mileage as well.

[wmitchell]

Had an old Volvo 940 briefly in my ownership, sold at 155,000, now at 170,000 and no issues with an unkillable b230 engine

[alabbasi]

Flanners said:

Could it be that many of the high milers are from the modern 'golden age' which has now gone and the modern offerings are built with planned destruction to do 100K/a PCP deal and then fail and then quickly become uneconomical to repair?

I think that it has more to do with oil changes. In the US people are pretty religious about changing oil every 3-5k miles. I was reading a thread on another UK forum and people were doing 20-30k mile oil changes using the flexible service computer. On a Mercedes Benz engine! Bonkers in my opinion.

Back in the days when everything used carbs, 100k miles was normal life but that all changed with fuel injection. The Volvo 240's have now become cult cars here in the US and many are still on the road. It's the Swedish crown victoria.

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alabbasi said:

Flanners said:

Could it be that many of the high milers are from the modern 'golden age' which has now gone and the modern offerings are built with planned destruction to do 100K/a PCP deal and then fail and then quickly become uneconomical to repair?

I think that it has more to do with oil changes. In the US people are pretty religious about changing oil every 3-5k miles. I was reading a thread on another UK forum and people were doing 20-30k mile oil changes using the flexible service computer. On a Mercedes Benz engine! Bonkers in my opinion.

Back in the days when everything used carbs, 100k miles was normal life but that all changed with fuel injection. The Volvo 240's have now become cult cars here in the US and many are still on the road. It's the Swedish crown victoria.

Its very cheap as well, you just drive in and they change oil only and your on your way very quickly. They put a nice sticker in the window reminding you what milage you had it done at and to come back 3k-5k later depending on the chain.

[Jimmy Recard]

J4CKO said:

The initial failures were due to the "Degas Hose"

I suppose that's what you get when you employ an impressionist to design engine parts

[James-jupp]

Hey guys, I´m new here but i´ve known about the forum for a while.

My Renault Megane is on 250k km at the moment, its reguarly serviced, with at least oil, oil filter, and air filter. The engine is sweet as the day i bought it, and i´ve had it a good 10? years already.

I keep thinking about getting finance on a new car.. but going from owning outright to owing 25k really puts me off !

[alabbasi]

James-jupp said:

I keep thinking about getting finance on a new car.. but going from owning outright to owing 25k really puts me off !

Bangernomics

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Steve93 said:

I still have the engine somewhere I think.

I hate it when I lose an engine!

[muchacho]

Petrol 2.5 16 valve
235,000 miles

[TonyRPH]

V6todayEVmanana said:

Having a chat with a mechanic and he mentioned that if my petrol engine made it to 200K miles that would be exceptional and I am very lucky.

Your mechanic may have been correct 60 (maybe even 50) years ago, but modern (think post 1980) petrol engines tend to last well, especially Japanese cars.

I ran my BMW 5 series (petrol, 6 cylinder) to around 215k miles and the engine was as smooth as ever when I sold it.

As others have said - if the engine receives regular services and oil changes at the prescribed intervals it'll last and last...

In fact - diesel engines tend to be more stressed than petrol engines because of higher compression ratios etc...

[hoagypubdog]

Had a Mercedes w126 420sel ,was 18 years old , bought it with 235000 miles on clock. Top of timing chain cover had been fibre glassed, figured chain had now been done. Drove very well for next two years.

[alabbasi]

hoagypubdog said:

Had a Mercedes w126 420sel ,was 18 years old , bought it with 235000 miles on clock. Top of timing chain cover had been fibre glassed, figured chain had now been done. Drove very well for next two years.

Must remember to hoard all my spare cam covers

[Flanners]

MuscleSedan said:

The biggest factor is maintenance as always, but it's surprising how much later stuff ( broadly speaking 2010 onwards ) that I see in the trade that's had a new engine before 100k miles. Sometimes much newer and lower mileage as well.

Yes it seems the marque is becoming increasingly irrelevant as a measure for 'quality and longevity' given the reliability surveys and problems owner's experience from Supercars down to city cars; some supposed hallowed brands come out really badly. In my limited knowledge it seems that many components used in modern cars are not up to the job expected of them whether mechanical or electronic. Highest mileage I have is 112K miles.

Edited by Flanners on Sunday 8th November 18:42

[alabbasi]

Flanners said:

Yes it seems the marque is becoming increasingly irrelevant as a measure for 'quality and longevity' given the reliability surveys and problems owner's experience from Supercars down to city cars; some supposed hallowed brands come out really badly. In my limited knowledge it seems that many components used in modern cars are not up to the job expected of them whether mechanical or electronic. Highest mileage I have is 112K miles.

Edited by Flanners on Sunday 8th November 18:42

Some four cylinder engines are getting wound up to 300hp or more. That's a lot of power to squeeze out of a small unit that also has to run hot in order to meet emissions. It doesn't come as a surprise that they're not lasting as long as they used to.

[Alfahorn]

My four cars have done a combined 397,000 does that count?

My Brera is a 1750 TBI and has done 136,000 and it’s a fabulous machine. I love it.









Pictures taken this morning are good blast! 😎

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Alfahorn said:

My four cars have done a combined 397,000 does that count?

My Brera is a 1750 TBI and has done 136,000 and it’s a fabulous machine. I love it.









Pictures taken this morning are good blast! ??

Go away, and come back in 80k miles.

[Flanners]

alabbasi said:

Some four cylinder engines are getting wound up to 300hp or more. That's a lot of power to squeeze out of a small unit that also has to run hot in order to meet emissions. It doesn't come as a surprise that they're not lasting as long as they used to.

Yes indeed! I have a 1.6 with 270bhp.....I make sure the manufacurer warranty is renewed every year for sure.

[AC43]

Alfahorn said:

My Brera is a 1750 TBI and has done 136,000 and it’s a fabulous machine. I love it.

Great looking car.