RE: Toyota GR Yaris (Convenience Pack) | UK Review

[Jpuk]

Hopefully this will sell well meaning more hot toyotas. Sounds like it is but this could all be hearsay.

If not it will be a case of Toyota gave enthusiasts what they wanted and still didnt succeed. Back to hybrids and co development cars.

Dont see the point of the navigation however. I find android auto much easier to use then Navigation even on BMW Idrive.

[CedricN]

CedricN said:

Checked up some more real world weights(Inc 70kg driver fluids etc as weights always are stated here in sweden)

Type R 2017, 1470kg

Audi s1 1415kg

2019 Fiesta st 1301kg

Golf R 2018 1601kh

The weights might differ a bit irl, but this is as close as it gets without having all the cars in the same room will be interesting to see where the GR ends up weight wise in the real world.

If i check up a gt86 its about 1316kg, so i have high hopes that the GR will actually be close to the stated numbers.

Some, like ferrari are way off, a 488gtb for example is almost 1600kg measured in the same way..

[is1]

Sam

Is this a Pure White (solid) or Pearlescent White car in the pictures?
BTW, I’m informed there have been 600 odd pre-sold nationally to date.

Thanks

[David87]

Kind of annoying you can’t get the Circuit Pack alongside the Convenience Pack, but that doesn’t stop me from really wanting one.

[anonymous-user]

Speed Badger said:

What's the point of reviewing the convenience pack model without reviewing the convenience pack?

Quite. Non-circuit pack drive and handling review is what it is.

[CedricN]

CedricN said:

If i check up a gt86 its about 1316kg, so i have high hopes that the GR will actually be close to the stated numbers.

Some, like ferrari are way off, a 488gtb for example is almost 1600kg measured in the same way..

I think i got my hands on the reg plate of a yaris, unknown spec. 1368kg, with drivers, fluids etc same as the numbers above. Not as light as i hoped, but fairly good.

[samoht]

EyeHeartSpellin said:

I want a Circuit Pack car badly but I'm convinced this is about to become the most stolen car in history.

Hmm... I was under the impression that criminals focused on relatively anonymous-looking cars and preferred 4/5-door models, because that lets their associates jump in and out easily. Don't want to be fiddling around with letting people into the back outside the bank when you're in a hurry, after all. So I'd have thought they'd rather stick to Audi RS4s and Golf Rs.

Also, in terms of moving the car on, I'm not convinced that 'Toyota Yaris' is going to be a brand with appeal to the kind of person who's interested in buying a stolen car.

Anyway, could run some insurance quotes and see what the experts reckon, it's their job to anticipate this sort of thing.

[lee_erm]

PH: "adroitly organised"

Shut up.

[wab172uk]

samoht said:

EyeHeartSpellin said:

I want a Circuit Pack car badly but I'm convinced this is about to become the most stolen car in history.

Hmm... I was under the impression that criminals focused on relatively anonymous-looking cars and preferred 4/5-door models, because that lets their associates jump in and out easily. Don't want to be fiddling around with letting people into the back outside the bank when you're in a hurry, after all. So I'd have thought they'd rather stick to Audi RS4s and Golf Rs.

Also, in terms of moving the car on, I'm not convinced that 'Toyota Yaris' is going to be a brand with appeal to the kind of person who's interested in buying a stolen car.

Anyway, could run some insurance quotes and see what the experts reckon, it's their job to anticipate this sort of thing.

Autowatch Ghost solves that little problem. But as said, thieves want 4/5 door cars to get 4 up, and easy to get in and out of with a big enough boot for their swag. Some will certainly get stolen, just like every car. Fiesta ST's being a highly stolen car due to how damn easy Ford made it for them.

If I was the owner of the new S3, M135i or A35 AMG, I'd be more worried about it being stolen. Same with the A45-S & RS3. They also blend into the background, while the Yaris certainly will not.

[anonymous-user]

fesuvious said:

Thanks

Is it best just to purchase through Toyota website?

Doesn’t really make a difference other than a dealer may ask for more than the £250 deposit you pay for an online order.

[The Hypno-Toad]

I will probably never be in a position to buy one but I am so glad that a major manufacturer feels able to build a car as specialised as this & retail it for a reasonable price. It is something to be applauded.

Hopefully it may lead to some others taking a chance before it’s too late.

[anonymous-user]

is1 said:

Sam

Is this a Pure White (solid) or Pearlescent White car in the pictures?
BTW, I’m informed there have been 600 odd pre-sold nationally to date.

Thanks

Looks like solid white to me.

[andy43]

wab172uk said:

samoht said:

EyeHeartSpellin said:

I want a Circuit Pack car badly but I'm convinced this is about to become the most stolen car in history.

Hmm... I was under the impression that criminals focused on relatively anonymous-looking cars and preferred 4/5-door models, because that lets their associates jump in and out easily. Don't want to be fiddling around with letting people into the back outside the bank when you're in a hurry, after all. So I'd have thought they'd rather stick to Audi RS4s and Golf Rs.

Also, in terms of moving the car on, I'm not convinced that 'Toyota Yaris' is going to be a brand with appeal to the kind of person who's interested in buying a stolen car.

Anyway, could run some insurance quotes and see what the experts reckon, it's their job to anticipate this sort of thing.

Autowatch Ghost solves that little problem. But as said, thieves want 4/5 door cars to get 4 up, and easy to get in and out of with a big enough boot for their swag. Some will certainly get stolen, just like every car. Fiesta ST's being a highly stolen car due to how damn easy Ford made it for them.

If I was the owner of the new S3, M135i or A35 AMG, I'd be more worried about it being stolen. Same with the A45-S & RS3. They also blend into the background, while the Yaris certainly will not.

Manual gearbox will prevent theft-for-crime use - most 15 year old peasants won't know how to work it.

[Bispal]

I love a lightweight car probably even more than most petrol-heads but even I think the weight is impressive for a full mechanical 4WD system and all the legislative safety equipment that wasn't required back in 106 & 205 days. Especially given the price. If you want a light modern hatch options are limited but there is always the Up GTi at 1,080 kilos, just be content with 0-62mph in 8.8sec, and 122mph. The Yaris GR weighs the same as a McLaren 600LT but its 15% of the price. If the Yaris had the CF tub and titanium engine components etc, it might weigh 990 kilos and be £75k. I think Toyota have pitched the weight / performance / cost balance really well.

[Johnnytheboy]

Article said:

...swapped out....

Oh do stop that.

Anyway, this is probably the one I would buy as quite frankly I'm not sure I'm a good enough road driver to notice the difference, and I'd like the extra bells and whistles.

[Electro1980]

wab172uk said:

samoht said:

EyeHeartSpellin said:

I want a Circuit Pack car badly but I'm convinced this is about to become the most stolen car in history.

Hmm... I was under the impression that criminals focused on relatively anonymous-looking cars and preferred 4/5-door models, because that lets their associates jump in and out easily. Don't want to be fiddling around with letting people into the back outside the bank when you're in a hurry, after all. So I'd have thought they'd rather stick to Audi RS4s and Golf Rs.

Also, in terms of moving the car on, I'm not convinced that 'Toyota Yaris' is going to be a brand with appeal to the kind of person who's interested in buying a stolen car.

Anyway, could run some insurance quotes and see what the experts reckon, it's their job to anticipate this sort of thing.

Autowatch Ghost solves that little problem. But as said, thieves want 4/5 door cars to get 4 up, and easy to get in and out of with a big enough boot for their swag. Some will certainly get stolen, just like every car. Fiesta ST's being a highly stolen car due to how damn easy Ford made it for them.

If I was the owner of the new S3, M135i or A35 AMG, I'd be more worried about it being stolen. Same with the A45-S & RS3. They also blend into the background, while the Yaris certainly will not.

Those cars also have parts that are wanted on the second hand market to, um, improve base model cars looks. Where as this is a very different car and, I believe, doesn’t share a single dimension with the model it shares a name with.

[wab172uk]

andy43 said:

wab172uk said:

samoht said:

EyeHeartSpellin said:

I want a Circuit Pack car badly but I'm convinced this is about to become the most stolen car in history.

Hmm... I was under the impression that criminals focused on relatively anonymous-looking cars and preferred 4/5-door models, because that lets their associates jump in and out easily. Don't want to be fiddling around with letting people into the back outside the bank when you're in a hurry, after all. So I'd have thought they'd rather stick to Audi RS4s and Golf Rs.

Also, in terms of moving the car on, I'm not convinced that 'Toyota Yaris' is going to be a brand with appeal to the kind of person who's interested in buying a stolen car.

Anyway, could run some insurance quotes and see what the experts reckon, it's their job to anticipate this sort of thing.

Autowatch Ghost solves that little problem. But as said, thieves want 4/5 door cars to get 4 up, and easy to get in and out of with a big enough boot for their swag. Some will certainly get stolen, just like every car. Fiesta ST's being a highly stolen car due to how damn easy Ford made it for them.

If I was the owner of the new S3, M135i or A35 AMG, I'd be more worried about it being stolen. Same with the A45-S & RS3. They also blend into the background, while the Yaris certainly will not.

Manual gearbox will prevent theft-for-crime use - most 15 year old peasants won't know how to work it.

Sadly true .....

[s m]

ecsrobin said:

s m said:

If it actually weighs less than 1300kg that’s a good result

Audi S1 3-door on 18s was one of the few modern similar cars I can think of and that turned in at 1365kg on the scales at Millbrook, ready to drive, half a tank of fuel - test date May 14

Be interesting to see the Autocar full test

That’s 6 years old, cars have got heavier since then.

Indeed it was .....but there aren’t many similar size 4wd cars that have come out since then are there?

It is probably one of the most recent 4wd Turbo 3 doors that is comparable in terms of interior space and size unless I’ve missed some?

As I said, if the Yaris weighs less than 1300kg that is good going

[MadDog1962]

Let us see:

1. Approximately 200hp/ton (more than enough performance)
2. Compact (so you can actually park it in the real World on city streets)
3. AWD (so more than enough grip and traction on public roads under most scenarios unless you stole it)
4. Relatively economical
5. Toyota reliability
6. Enough ground clearance that you won't need to fret about ramps and traffic bumps
7. £30,000 without options (so mortals can afford it or at least f---ing finance it).
8. Space for luggage on weekend trips or touring

What is there not to like? This thing is going to be a smash hit.

Well done Toyota!

[s m]

Kawasicki said:

Baldchap said:

Venisonpie said:

This is a great little car but 1300kgs? Crikey.

Real world wet weight on a Golf R is 1600kg.

1280kg is 90's territory, they're just not allowed to lie by declaring boggo spec, dry weights any more.

Golf 7 R was 1483kg fully fueled in 2014 according to Auto Motor & Sport.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/vw-golf-r...

Sounds about right for a 5-door version

Autocar’s 3-door test Golf R Mk 7 DSG weighed 1410 kg, half a tank of fuel on the scales at Millbrook