RE: Toyota GR Yaris (Convenience Pack) | UK Review
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Sam.M said:
is1 said:
Sam
Is this a Pure White (solid) or Pearlescent White car in the pictures?
BTW, I’m informed there have been 600 odd pre-sold nationally to date.
Thanks
Looks like solid white to me.Is this a Pure White (solid) or Pearlescent White car in the pictures?
BTW, I’m informed there have been 600 odd pre-sold nationally to date.
Thanks
Thanks. I see from other threads you’re a fellow ex-GTti owner.
I had two myself, and later in my car history, two Evo VI TMEs, so this Yaris is like a combination of my two favourite cars.
Colour wise, I quite like solid white as it suits the rally/JDM vibe and for a keeper, might be the one to go for. I’ll need to see the two whites in the metal. Though I do like red cars, scarlet flare (red) seems a bit ‘browny/clarety’ on google searches. Again, maybe need to see it in the metal.
Re the more fidgety ride on the circuit pack, if that is the case, I wonder if a light 17 x 8 wheel with 225/45/17 PS4s would take the edge off (and shed yet more weight). But would they fit over the brakes?
Ah nice, had good fun with my GTti and latter GTxx. I always wanted my GTxx to be AWD and have more power, makes me glad Toyota have built the GR.
Never done the AWD thing before so looking forward to something new there.
I’d like to see if 17s would fit too, but I’m skeptical. Those brakes are massive.
Scarlet flare was too variable for me in the end, I settled on black. Had they gone for a postbox red I’d have had it.
Never done the AWD thing before so looking forward to something new there.
I’d like to see if 17s would fit too, but I’m skeptical. Those brakes are massive.
Scarlet flare was too variable for me in the end, I settled on black. Had they gone for a postbox red I’d have had it.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 21st November 14:48
Sam.M said:
Scarlet flare was too variable for me in the end, I settled on black. Had they gone for a postbox red I’d have had it.
Ah, interesting, not just me with reservations about the red colour. I’ve a Guards Red 911 (i.e. more postbox!) so agree.Edited by Sam.M on Saturday 21st November 14:48
From what I’ve seen so far, black will be quite rare.
EyeHeartSpellin said:
I want a Circuit Pack car badly but I'm convinced this is about to become the most stolen car in history.
Toyotas aren’t seen as cool though in the innit bruv community as they aren’t German. Also too easy for the “feds” to catch them as not quick enough in a straight line. MountainsofSussex said:
Anyone else think this needs some Toyota/GR red and black stickers or stripes? Not as big as the WRC cars obvs! But in white it looks a little unfinished somehow, and to me at least, the red looks very 80s base model
Stickers never do any harm!The unfinished look is exacerbated by the daft black wheels which, as usual with black wheels, looks like there’s nothing in the wheelarches and thus no stance.
A set of white or gold wheels and it’d look fantastic. Would be the only mod on mine and put the originals in storage.
s m said:
Kawasicki said:
Baldchap said:
Venisonpie said:
This is a great little car but 1300kgs? Crikey.
Real world wet weight on a Golf R is 1600kg.1280kg is 90's territory, they're just not allowed to lie by declaring boggo spec, dry weights any more.
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/vw-golf-r...
Autocar’s 3-door test Golf R Mk 7 DSG weighed 1410 kg, half a tank of fuel on the scales at Millbrook
llcoolmac said:
Hmmm I doubt they are that light. Savagegeese reviewed the mk 7.5 Golf R 5door and they weigh them with corner scales under each wheel. It was 1522kg and that was for a manual car. The DSG is going to be at least 100kg heavier.
Don't spoil a valid point by exaggeration. There is no way DSG is going to be 100kg heavier. 20/30 maybe 40kg perhaps. Alpine would say nothing at all - but that I'm sure would be reliant upon designing for DSG alone.Do people think the base car is going to be that undesirable? Like getting the mk7 Fiesta ST1 instead of an ST2 or ST3? I’m looking at it thinking that for road use it looks like a great idea. Hacking around the cotswolds today, some of the minor roads are in a right state. The more forgiving suspension and cheaper wheels may come into their own.
F20CN16 said:
Do people think the base car is going to be that undesirable? Like getting the mk7 Fiesta ST1 instead of an ST2 or ST3? I’m looking at it thinking that for road use it looks like a great idea. Hacking around the cotswolds today, some of the minor roads are in a right state. The more forgiving suspension and cheaper wheels may come into their own.
There will probably be an element of one-upmanship with the Comp pack, but this one looks like a nicer car to live with if - like most people - you never track it.
bcr5784 said:
Don't spoil a valid point by exaggeration. There is no way DSG is going to be 100kg heavier. 20/30 maybe 40kg perhaps. Alpine would say nothing at all - but that I'm sure would be reliant upon designing for DSG alone.
As a wrote before the answer there are plenty and plenty of data in the Swedish car registry. 1570-1600 inc driver seems where they are at, for 5door dsg . Seems to correlate with his number. Dsg is heavier, its a big lump of metal, but probably close to the numbers you guess. Enough of boring golfs in here i think about 60kg heavier than a fiesta st seems pretty well done by the Toyota engineers. CedricN said:
Checked up some more real world weights(Inc 70kg driver fluids etc as weights always are stated here in sweden)
Type R 2017, 1470kg
Audi s1 1415kg
2019 Fiesta st 1301kg
Golf R 2018 1601kh
The weights might differ a bit irl, but this is as close as it gets without having all the cars in the same room will be interesting to see where the GR ends up weight wise in the real world.
FYI weight from before ~2016 ain't reliable in the Swedish registry (often just the manufacturer nr istead of weighed) , so the S1 irl is a bit heavier. Type R 2017, 1470kg
Audi s1 1415kg
2019 Fiesta st 1301kg
Golf R 2018 1601kh
The weights might differ a bit irl, but this is as close as it gets without having all the cars in the same room will be interesting to see where the GR ends up weight wise in the real world.
Audi s1 tested by Auto Motor & Sport was 1368kg fully fueled
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/audi-s1-i...
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/audi-s1-i...
CedricN said:
Enough of boring golfs in here
Quite, why does every thread have to mention the fking Golf R? That thing doesn’t even exist to me, if I was going to wax £34K on a Golf it would be a Clubsport S. The R is like a cheap Audi S3.4WD should be used in exceptional circumstances, for off road performance or to make a car more fun to drive. Not to make an already safe and understeering car even more inert to drive.
Kawasicki said:
Audi s1 tested by Auto Motor & Sport was 1368kg fully fueled
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/audi-s1-i...
Very similar to Autocar’s test car, also a 3-dr - they reckoned on 1365 kg with half a tank for their example https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/audi-s1-i...
Good work if the Yaris is sub 1300kg though - that’s late 90s rally rep weight like a P1
bcr5784 said:
llcoolmac said:
Hmmm I doubt they are that light. Savagegeese reviewed the mk 7.5 Golf R 5door and they weigh them with corner scales under each wheel. It was 1522kg and that was for a manual car. The DSG is going to be at least 100kg heavier.
Don't spoil a valid point by exaggeration. There is no way DSG is going to be 100kg heavier. 20/30 maybe 40kg perhaps. Alpine would say nothing at all - but that I'm sure would be reliant upon designing for DSG alone.https://zeperfs.com/duel6711-6750.htm
But quite right, the Golf R is bland, boring and everything the Yaris GR4 is not. It doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the GR4.
9k rpm said:
Toyotas aren’t seen as cool though in the innit bruv community as they aren’t German. Also too easy for the “feds” to catch them as not quick enough in a straight line.
Herberts lacking actual driving skills. Anyone and pop a car into 'D' and nail it In all seriousness i dont think they will register on the radar in the same way a S3 or Golf R does. Just too small for any scote based activities.
I appreciate why people are discussing weight, it’s not something I can mention at home as if I do it is immediately followed hurl the chubby little fist of SWMBO hitting me soundly around the head
That aside, for me this car is like a breath of fresh air, as a recent poster put it, small, agile, reasonably economical and affordable
I wonder if in 2030 we will look back after the Wicked Witch of the North, Theta Gruntburger, gets her way, and we are all condemned to drive vehicle powered by mouse farts, and wax lyrical about it, without considering that it weighed the same as both of SWMBOs chubby little legs?
The first of the last of a dying breed, I’d suggest.
That aside, for me this car is like a breath of fresh air, as a recent poster put it, small, agile, reasonably economical and affordable
I wonder if in 2030 we will look back after the Wicked Witch of the North, Theta Gruntburger, gets her way, and we are all condemned to drive vehicle powered by mouse farts, and wax lyrical about it, without considering that it weighed the same as both of SWMBOs chubby little legs?
The first of the last of a dying breed, I’d suggest.
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