RE: Ineos confirms Mercedes factory acquisition

RE: Ineos confirms Mercedes factory acquisition

Tuesday 8th December 2020

Ineos confirms Mercedes factory acquisition

New Grenadier will be built alongside Smart models in France



Ineos has taken its most significant step yet towards Grenadier production with the acquisition of a high-tech production facility in Hambach, near the French/German border. The former Mercedes-Benz site – bought for an undisclosed sum – currently builds Smart EV models, but it is said to be ready for ‘large’ vehicle manufacturing. Ineos will continue to produce Smart’s EQ fortwo at the facility under contract with Mercedes, further strengthening ties between the two brands and presumably providing it with an additional revenue stream. 

The agreement - which takes place nine months since Ineos confirmed its partnership with Mercedes-AMG’s F1 team, and five months since the Grenadiar was digitally unveiled - is set to create 1,300 new jobs. Ineos said the deal means its 4x4 is on course to arrive on roads at the start of 2022, with the Hambach site set to start production at the end of next year. Group chairman, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, added that “Hambach presented [the firm] with a unique opportunity that [it] simply could not ignore: to buy a modern automotive manufacturing facility with a world-class workforce.”


Ineos CEO, Dirk Heilmann, reckons that the Hambach site represents the company’s “biggest milestone yet in the development of the Grenadier”. He said that preparations are underway “to build [the] 4x4 from late next year for delivery to customers around the globe.”

It’s not yet clear how existing deals with the likes of production specialist Magna Steyr will be affected. The Austrian firm – which knows a serious amount about building genuine off-roaders – has been helping with development of the BMW-powered Grenadiar, and earlier plans suggested the finished machine would be made at a purpose-built plant in Bridgend. At that stage, Ineos said it intended to make 25,000 units per year. It’s possible that the Hambach plant’s larger capacity could see that number increase. 




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numtumfutunch

Original Poster:

4,732 posts

139 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Can't quite put my finger on which car this reminds me of

Anyone?

Rumblestripe

2,960 posts

163 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Another proponent of Brexit showing his true colours. What happened to the Bridgend manufacturing site?

MrTouring

453 posts

96 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Feel like this misses the actual (non-automotive) story

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/13363332650...

WonkeyDonkey

2,343 posts

104 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Quite an impressive facility.

Didn't the owner of this company back the brexit campaign?

ChrisCh86

855 posts

45 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Rumblestripe said:
Another proponent of Brexit showing his true colours. What happened to the Bridgend manufacturing site?
Exactly this.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Dyson mk2, billionaires backing Britain once again

Fatball

645 posts

60 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Suspended work on an alleged Portuguese plant also. Looks like an offer has come up that fits the business rather than the U.K.

Bam89

632 posts

102 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Off to see some more Brexiteers twist themselves into knots in NP&E. Jolly good news for all those loaded Welshmen who definitely didn't need European investment in their local areas

kharma45

216 posts

74 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Fatball said:
Suspended work on an alleged Portuguese plant also. Looks like an offer has come up that fits the business rather than the U.K.


Doesn’t sound like the UK even came close.


oilit

2,634 posts

179 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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You have to be knighted, and then move so you don't have to pay your UK taxes, and then vote for Brexit, and then invest anywhere except the UK.

To varying degrees I think all of the below can tick at least two of those above.

James Dyson
Richard Branson
Jim Ratcliffe
Phillip Green

I am sure if the public get their way the next will be Mr L Hamilton - another tax exile....




Numeric

1,399 posts

152 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Makes good business sense and likely comes with a dowry to take on employees - effectively Daimler neatly avoid bad press and cost of shutting the plant.

It's the logical decision - but the problem was the PR was designed to be without pure logic and suffused with patriotism - this car will end up being as British as the new Defender which is a little ironic.

Mind you - workers in France Germany and other countries should be scared as well - I mean the new BMW X3 electric being built in China in JV with a company wholly owned by the Chinese Government - I think Auto workers throughout Europe may be in for a rude awakening as tough new emission legislation sees their jobs offshored and all effective power going to this new market, with Daimler seemingly at the forefront of reducing the importance of German manufacture in its communication.

munk

258 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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numtumfutunch said:
Can't quite put my finger on which car this reminds me of

Anyone?
Santana Ps10?



Edited by munk on Tuesday 8th December 18:46

750turbo

6,164 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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I visited this facility a no of tears ago when I was on a secondment to MB/Smart. You could literally eat your dinner off the floor!

The one strange thing was the Crossblade production, if anyone remembers these. They were pushed to the side at their end of the production line and seemingly forgotten... Maybe waiting collection by Robbie Williams? smile

Good luck to Ineos.

V8 FOU

2,977 posts

148 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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You can't blame him. A fully functioning production facility. At least this will make it to production as far as I can see. Unlike other certain manufacturers who haven't fixed the roof yet and have taken plenty of deposits........

EC2

1,481 posts

254 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Will affect UK sales - and it would stop me and I've owned a 110 Defender - but other countries will not be bothered as has been said. It's small beer to the world car industry and Ineos already employs a lot of people in the UK so best of luck to him. Don't care if he is domiciled overseas as long as he creates UK jobs. I think it is a mistake as the whole name and type of car this is meant to emulate is British but bigger things to worry about!

Edited by EC2 on Tuesday 8th December 19:07

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Looked good as a British made truck
Looks totally pointless now and will
Have to complete on merit will be hard
When for instance a Hilux is about 20 k tows 3.5 tons
Has a world wide Service network and proven
Reliability , you can also get a base model Landcruiser for a few thousand more !!!

df76

3,640 posts

279 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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How times have changed since Sept 2019.. what a disaster.

INEOS Group Chairman Sir Jim Ratcliffe said: “We have looked long and hard at possible manufacturing locations for Grenadier across the world with lots of good options to choose from. The decision to build in the UK is a significant expression of confidence in British manufacturing, which has always been at the heart of what INEOS stands for.”

Billy_Whizzzz

2,014 posts

144 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Why does it matter where it is built? We’re all citizens of the world. Jobs are jobs wherever they are. Why should it matter (except for some weird accident of birth) that they’re in France rather than the UK? Why should people in the UK have anything in common just because they live on a small island together?

df76

3,640 posts

279 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
Why does it matter where it is built? We’re all citizens of the world. Jobs are jobs wherever they are. Why should it matter (except for some weird accident of birth) that they’re in France rather than the UK? Why should people in the UK have anything in common just because they live on a small island together?
Suspect that's not quite what the unemployed of south Wales are thinking this evening..

nordboy

1,477 posts

51 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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I pass the site where the Ineos plant was going to be in Bridgend. It's right next to the now vacant Ford engine plant so why they couldn't have used this facility is beyond me?

Also, they've already started building the infrastructure around the new (now not to be) Bridgend plant!! Someones already out of pocket.