RE: Litchfield GR Yaris announced

[Red 5]

GRMN27 said:

I thought they looked good without mods but the white one looks superb slightly lowered.

If they can lower the seats as well even better

Angle grinder required for seats to drop, if the OEM seats are staying
The floor rails have 90mm high turrets, that the seat attaches to.

Credit Apex.


Apex are German and were not able to cut these out and still be road legal.
It will likely be ok to do here though, as our mods aren’t regulated in the same way.

[tonyb1968]

Terminator X said:

"Litchfield has already been testing a piggyback system which has extracted 300hp from the mechanically unmodified 1.6-litre motor, representing a 39hp gain over standard."

Interesting, does that mean the ECU can't be cracked or just not yet?

TX.

Its not been cracked yet, the likes of HKS are using a MOTEC M150 ecu in their car, there are piggy back chips already out for this car (race chip do one I believe), 300bhp seems the top end before you do any mods to it.

[cerb4.5lee]

These do look smart and purposeful.

[jason61c]

I really doubt that the nitron has made it 'better' just lower.

Looks less 'rally' to my eyes and the standard setup looks like its better suited to jumping and longer spring travel needed on bumpy B roads.

[ducnick]

As far as I can see this cars USP is it’s B road ability derived from all wheel drive, low weight, small dimensions and importantly its long travel rally suspension.
It’s a modern day Lancia delta integrale.
Lowering the “stance” removes one of those key building blocks of its USP. Why don’t the put a wide arch kit on it and remove drive to the rear axel while they are at it?

[Julian Thompson]

When they wind the Nitron spring seats up it’ll ride as high as you like. They’re probably just messing about testing it to get a feel for how it reacts and to get some press shots done.

[fantheman80]

Terminator X said:

"Litchfield has already been testing a piggyback system which has extracted 300hp from the mechanically unmodified 1.6-litre motor, representing a 39hp gain over standard."

Interesting, does that mean the ECU can't be cracked or just not yet?

TX.

it took a good year to crack the Bosch one in the type r...

[jason61c]

Julian Thompson said:

When they wind the Nitron spring seats up it’ll ride as high as you like. They’re probably just messing about testing it to get a feel for how it reacts and to get some press shots done.

thats not how it works, how much work has nitron really done since they got a car? who's done the development?

It'll be a waste of cash. the whole car is setup to run at a particular height. Every review has praised the suspension.

[topboss]

jason61c said:

thats not how it works, how much work has nitron really done since they got a car? who's done the development?

It'll be a waste of cash. the whole car is setup to run at a particular height. Every review has praised the suspension.

Impossible to say it’ll be a waste of cash without having tested it. I’ve had numerous cars modified by Litchfield, all have had suspension packages done and the results have been nothing short of astounding every single time.

Just because something has been praised doesn’t mean it can’t be improved.

[moonigan]

jason61c said:

I really doubt that the nitron has made it 'better' just lower.

Looks less 'rally' to my eyes and the standard setup looks like its better suited to jumping and longer spring travel needed on bumpy B roads.

Agree with this 100% I’d be surprised if Nitron have made the car better on the road. If the kit they did for the Mini is anything to go by then it will great on track and hard as nails on the road.

[cowboyengineer]

JCR have released a frame that mounts to the factory mounts in the car. However, only computable with aftermarket seats. The factory seats, as has been said previously can’t be lowered.

[Scottie - NW]

Toyota warranties are 5 years aren’t they? As much as I love tuning my cars I’d not want to void that warranty.

[Furyblade_Lee]

dibblecorse said:

Unless that set up improves its ability to demolish B roads, then I don't see the point, if you buy this wanting to go fast on the super smooth stuff, then I think you've bought the wrong car.

This......^^^^^^

[DSC OFF]

Furyblade_Lee said:

This......^^^^^^

This x 2

[Onehp]

Kawasicki said:

GRMN27 said:

I thought they looked good without mods but the white one looks superb slightly lowered.

It looks like it has been lowered at least 25mm, which is around a third of the bump travel. That is quite a reduction.

From the nose to nose shot and knowing the disk is 356mm, it's lowered no less than 38mm. More then halving bump travel, assuming the nitron damper has the same fully compressed position. If not, risking scraping quite some more. Either way, I believe it that ride may be better, but not so on bumpy roads. I thought the suspension on the stock car is marvelous, and that was climbing out of a car with ZF Sachs Performance coilovers which ain't too shabby themselves either.

Edited by Onehp on Wednesday 13th January 07:33

[Bright Halo]

Furyblade_Lee said:

dibblecorse said:

Unless that set up improves its ability to demolish B roads, then I don't see the point, if you buy this wanting to go fast on the super smooth stuff, then I think you've bought the wrong car.

This......^^^^^^

I suppose it gives customers choice at the end of the day. I’m not much for messing with new cars but others dive straight in.

[redroadster]

Looks proper mean, a great small car in the evo mould I want.

[coded2112]

I think again its each to there own... I never thought i would modify a car but have had loads of fun tinkering with my Mini, is it better, i think so and thats all that matters to me...

Will i modify my GRY when it arrives, i am not sure, i doubt i will do anything that affects the warranty as i do a lot of miles but after that who knows...

I do remember having my track bike set up by Mick Grant and being astounded at how much better it handled once he had finished... so its not just the components its how you make them work together...

[Baldchap]

The standard suspension will be one of the things built to a price, as the WRC team will use better items. It's good for a standard item, but better (does not necessarily mean harder) items exist at a higher price point. For example, more controlled (standard items hopefully already variable) spring rates at the extremes of travel.

Perfectly possible to have suspension that feels identical for 90% of drivers and use cases, but is *significantly* better under high speed use.

Not suggesting Lichfield have done anything but make it harder (quite possibly therefore worse), but it's certainly false to suggest it couldn't be improved for fast road.

[Davey S2]

macky17 said:

Great. Now they just need to lower the driver's seat and fit a smaller rear view mirror for a perfect car.

And a new pedal box and a rear wash / wipe

This car is going to be the new Citroen Saxo isn't it? In 10 years time it will probably be next to impossible to find an original, unmolested example.

Edited by Davey S2 on Wednesday 13th January 08:23