One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 5

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 5

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Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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yellowjack said:
LunarOne said:
Hol said:
Shermanator said:
Wills2 said:
No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.



I don't normally comment on these threads, but I saw this and had to say something. Why not? Obviously not during lockdown/pandemic but in "normal" times, why wouldn't you? I drove for around 7 hours just to see/drive around Swindon's Magic Roundabout, so driving hundreds of miles for a kebab isn't out of my realm.
I know I'm not "normal" in terms of the general public but I'm sure I'm not out of the ordinary on this forum.
I wouldn’t drive over 300 miles for a kebab, unless it was part of a planned overnight stay.
Some take a chopper for a sarnie, though only 80 miles...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-5...
I once cycled 160 miles (round trip) for fish and chips at the seaside. It made sense to me because everyone knows seaside fish and chips just tastes better than the stuff from the chippie half a mile from home...
In the last 12 months?

And was the meal the primary purpose, or the bike ride.

Magnum 475

3,551 posts

133 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Hol said:
yellowjack said:
LunarOne said:
Hol said:
Shermanator said:
Wills2 said:
No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.



I don't normally comment on these threads, but I saw this and had to say something. Why not? Obviously not during lockdown/pandemic but in "normal" times, why wouldn't you? I drove for around 7 hours just to see/drive around Swindon's Magic Roundabout, so driving hundreds of miles for a kebab isn't out of my realm.
I know I'm not "normal" in terms of the general public but I'm sure I'm not out of the ordinary on this forum.
I wouldn’t drive over 300 miles for a kebab, unless it was part of a planned overnight stay.
Some take a chopper for a sarnie, though only 80 miles...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-5...
I once cycled 160 miles (round trip) for fish and chips at the seaside. It made sense to me because everyone knows seaside fish and chips just tastes better than the stuff from the chippie half a mile from home...
In the last 12 months?

And was the meal the primary purpose, or the bike ride.
A group of us would regularly fly from Wellesbourne airfield in Warwickshire to Bembridge on the Isle of Wight for lunch at the Crab & Lobster. Of course, the days flying and enjoying some sun on the IoW was also a big factor in this. We'd also sometimes fly up to Leicester airfield for their legendary curry nights.

Not sure I'd travel 300 miles for a kebab though.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Hol said:
yellowjack said:
LunarOne said:
Hol said:
Shermanator said:
Wills2 said:
No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.



I don't normally comment on these threads, but I saw this and had to say something. Why not? Obviously not during lockdown/pandemic but in "normal" times, why wouldn't you? I drove for around 7 hours just to see/drive around Swindon's Magic Roundabout, so driving hundreds of miles for a kebab isn't out of my realm.
I know I'm not "normal" in terms of the general public but I'm sure I'm not out of the ordinary on this forum.
I wouldn’t drive over 300 miles for a kebab, unless it was part of a planned overnight stay.
Some take a chopper for a sarnie, though only 80 miles...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-5...
I once cycled 160 miles (round trip) for fish and chips at the seaside. It made sense to me because everyone knows seaside fish and chips just tastes better than the stuff from the chippie half a mile from home...
In the last 12 months?

And was the meal the primary purpose, or the bike ride.
No. According to my Strava account I began the ride at 9:54 AM on Friday, September 1, 2017. The primary purpose? There were three reasons for the ride, to see the air display at the Bournemouth Air Festival, to gets some Fish and Chips from Simon's in Tuckton, and to ride my bike in the lovely sunshine. None of those reasons was more "primary" than any other really. I mean, I could have driven down and seen more of the air display, but then I'd have struggled to park when I got there and driving wouldn't have been as much fun.

The evidence is here... https://www.strava.com/activities/1163547782 ...though, and it'll only disappoint. The Fish and Chips turns out to have been Pie and Chips. My Garmin device ran out of puff before I did so it recorded "only" 148 miles ( #humblebrag ) instead of the full 160 (-ish). And because I left it until 10am to leave the house I missed all of the air display except for the Red Arrows. You must think me a terrible fraud...

Blown2CV

28,865 posts

204 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Hol said:
yellowjack said:
LunarOne said:
Hol said:
Shermanator said:
Wills2 said:
No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.



I don't normally comment on these threads, but I saw this and had to say something. Why not? Obviously not during lockdown/pandemic but in "normal" times, why wouldn't you? I drove for around 7 hours just to see/drive around Swindon's Magic Roundabout, so driving hundreds of miles for a kebab isn't out of my realm.
I know I'm not "normal" in terms of the general public but I'm sure I'm not out of the ordinary on this forum.
I wouldn’t drive over 300 miles for a kebab, unless it was part of a planned overnight stay.
Some take a chopper for a sarnie, though only 80 miles...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-5...
I once cycled 160 miles (round trip) for fish and chips at the seaside. It made sense to me because everyone knows seaside fish and chips just tastes better than the stuff from the chippie half a mile from home...
In the last 12 months?

And was the meal the primary purpose, or the bike ride.
Sir, Sir! Jenkinson made an unnecessary trip Sir!!!

Edited by Blown2CV on Thursday 11th March 22:09

Pan Pan Pan

9,928 posts

112 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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nonsequitur said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
If an approaching car has its indicator going when you `first' see it, it may be that the driver has not cancelled it, or it has not self cancelled, from the drivers last turn / change of direction.
In this case I tend to wait before pulling out, until the vehicle has either turned in, (or in the case of a knob) has gone past me, with the indicator still flashing.
If when waiting to pull out I see an approaching car `start' to signal, it means that the driver knows what he is doing, and is giving other drivers the chance to pull out safely. People who drive, and don't give signals are the motoring equivalent of someone who cannot walk, and chew gum at the same time.
IIRC, that move was a 'Cash for Crash' favourite. He's just indicated left. he must be turning left, I'll move out now...Bang. (Or something like that).drivinggrumpy
Agreed., But the most popular crash for cash ploy, was for the perpetrator to suddenly slam on their brakes, for no apparent reason.
If we are going to completely ignore turn signals, on the basis that they `might' be part of a cash for crash scam, then there may not be any point in fitting and using indicators on vehicles ever. But of course doing that means the scammers would win, and every single maneuver that every single vehicle ever makes becomes a potential crash for cash ploy.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Pan Pan Pan said:
nonsequitur said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
If an approaching car has its indicator going when you `first' see it, it may be that the driver has not cancelled it, or it has not self cancelled, from the drivers last turn / change of direction.
In this case I tend to wait before pulling out, until the vehicle has either turned in, (or in the case of a knob) has gone past me, with the indicator still flashing.
If when waiting to pull out I see an approaching car `start' to signal, it means that the driver knows what he is doing, and is giving other drivers the chance to pull out safely. People who drive, and don't give signals are the motoring equivalent of someone who cannot walk, and chew gum at the same time.
IIRC, that move was a 'Cash for Crash' favourite. He's just indicated left. he must be turning left, I'll move out now...Bang. (Or something like that).drivinggrumpy
Agreed., But the most popular crash for cash ploy, was for the perpetrator to suddenly slam on their brakes, for no apparent reason.
If we are going to completely ignore turn signals, on the basis that they `might' be part of a cash for crash scam, then there may not be any point in fitting and using indicators on vehicles ever. But of course doing that means the scammers would win, and every single maneuver that every single vehicle ever makes becomes a potential crash for cash ploy.
I was only highlighting the 'you turning right, them turning left' scenario. Ripe for a misunderstanding I feel. Other situations are available, but no need for us all to be paranoid about all motoring moves.


Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Blown2CV said:
Sir, Sir! Jenkinson made an unnecessary trip Sir!!!
He said he was going to an airshow and long before the lockdown was announced??






Edited by Hol on Friday 12th March 14:51

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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yellowjack said:
Hol said:
yellowjack said:
LunarOne said:
Hol said:
Shermanator said:
Wills2 said:
No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.



I don't normally comment on these threads, but I saw this and had to say something. Why not? Obviously not during lockdown/pandemic but in "normal" times, why wouldn't you? I drove for around 7 hours just to see/drive around Swindon's Magic Roundabout, so driving hundreds of miles for a kebab isn't out of my realm.
I know I'm not "normal" in terms of the general public but I'm sure I'm not out of the ordinary on this forum.
I wouldn’t drive over 300 miles for a kebab, unless it was part of a planned overnight stay.
Some take a chopper for a sarnie, though only 80 miles...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-5...
I once cycled 160 miles (round trip) for fish and chips at the seaside. It made sense to me because everyone knows seaside fish and chips just tastes better than the stuff from the chippie half a mile from home...
In the last 12 months?

And was the meal the primary purpose, or the bike ride.
No. According to my Strava account I began the ride at 9:54 AM on Friday, September 1, 2017. The primary purpose? There were three reasons for the ride, to see the air display at the Bournemouth Air Festival, to gets some Fish and Chips from Simon's in Tuckton, and to ride my bike in the lovely sunshine. None of those reasons was more "primary" than any other really. I mean, I could have driven down and seen more of the air display, but then I'd have struggled to park when I got there and driving wouldn't have been as much fun.

The evidence is here... https://www.strava.com/activities/1163547782 ...though, and it'll only disappoint. The Fish and Chips turns out to have been Pie and Chips. My Garmin device ran out of puff before I did so it recorded "only" 148 miles ( #humblebrag ) instead of the full 160 (-ish). And because I left it until 10am to leave the house I missed all of the air display except for the Red Arrows. You must think me a terrible fraud...
I agree its a long journey and a meal is involved, but I don't think its a direct comparison for a 300mile drive just for a kebab.

I also have no idea why you would have needed permission?

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Hol said:
yellowjack said:
No. According to my Strava account I began the ride at 9:54 AM on Friday, September 1, 2017. The primary purpose? There were three reasons for the ride, to see the air display at the Bournemouth Air Festival, to gets some Fish and Chips from Simon's in Tuckton, and to ride my bike in the lovely sunshine.
Nice to know, but I thought it might directly relate to the specific point being made in my comment and not just a nice story about how you went for a bike ride and a meal some time ago,



Blown2CV said:
Sir, Sir! Jenkinson made an unnecessary trip Sir!!!
He said he was going to an airshow and long before the lockdown was announced.

It was also many months before covid and lock down??


Edited by Hol on Friday 12th March 14:45
Ooh! So sorry. I was addressing the point made that "no-one would drive 300 miles for a kebab". Simply pointing out that if something you like to eat is a long way away then you may well exceed another person's threshold for travelling to get it. And anyway, I could do the same journey at the height of lockdown and it would still be legal. Eating is necessary to fuel the body on a long ride so even if I was picky about a particular takeaway in a particular place and tailored my exercise to get me there, it would never in a million years be seen as "the purpose of the journey" by any court in the land. It's simply prudent to plan a stop to eat when it's going to be required in order to avoid depleting your stores of energy to the point where you collapse and become a burden on the NHS, etc, etc...

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Cars with one working headlight.

LetsTryAgain

2,904 posts

74 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Super_G said:
Cars with one working headlight.
That's alright. They can stick their front fogs on to make up for it...

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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yellowjack said:
Hol said:
yellowjack said:
No. According to my Strava account I began the ride at 9:54 AM on Friday, September 1, 2017. The primary purpose? There were three reasons for the ride, to see the air display at the Bournemouth Air Festival, to gets some Fish and Chips from Simon's in Tuckton, and to ride my bike in the lovely sunshine.
Nice to know, but I thought it might directly relate to the specific point being made in my comment and not just a nice story about how you went for a bike ride and a meal some time ago,



Blown2CV said:
Sir, Sir! Jenkinson made an unnecessary trip Sir!!!
He said he was going to an airshow and long before the lockdown was announced.

It was also many months before covid and lock down??


Edited by Hol on Friday 12th March 14:45
Ooh! So sorry. I was addressing the point made that "no-one would drive 300 miles for a kebab". Simply pointing out that if something you like to eat is a long way away then you may well exceed another person's threshold for travelling to get it. And anyway, I could do the same journey at the height of lockdown and it would still be legal. Eating is necessary to fuel the body on a long ride so even if I was picky about a particular takeaway in a particular place and tailored my exercise to get me there, it would never in a million years be seen as "the purpose of the journey" by any court in the land. It's simply prudent to plan a stop to eat when it's going to be required in order to avoid depleting your stores of energy to the point where you collapse and become a burden on the NHS, etc, etc...
I wouldn't doubt it,

Edited by Hol on Friday 12th March 17:06

OllieJolly

348 posts

117 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Hmm... another takeaway fine by the looks of it: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/a...


LetsTryAgain

2,904 posts

74 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Anyone who supports the state stopping and fining free citizens going about their lawful business.

Any sensible, educated, reasonable person in the future will look back at the Covid-era of our national history as shameful.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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LetsTryAgain said:
Super_G said:
Cars with one working headlight.
That's alright. They can stick their front fogs on to make up for it...
Not when they don’t have foggers. Mo fos

LunarOne

5,220 posts

138 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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yellowjack said:
Ooh! So sorry. I was addressing the point made that "no-one would drive 300 miles for a kebab". Simply pointing out that if something you like to eat is a long way away then you may well exceed another person's threshold for travelling to get it. And anyway, I could do the same journey at the height of lockdown and it would still be legal. Eating is necessary to fuel the body on a long ride so even if I was picky about a particular takeaway in a particular place and tailored my exercise to get me there, it would never in a million years be seen as "the purpose of the journey" by any court in the land.
The expectation to stay near home is one that was being spouted at the height of lockdown, but I believe the only legal test was whether the journey was reasonable. I don't think anyone would say that going for a 300-mile drive for no particular purpose is reasonable during lockdown, and I don't believe that going for a 300-mile cycle is reasonable either, even if you are training for the Tour de France. In fact according to this site, 100 miles is a bit of a stretch for most people and therefore not a reasonable trip. The kebab is neither here nor there.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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LunarOne said:
The expectation to stay near home is one that was being spouted at the height of lockdown, but I believe the only legal test was whether the journey was reasonable. I don't think anyone would say that going for a 300-mile drive for no particular purpose is reasonable during lockdown, and I don't believe that going for a 300-mile cycle is reasonable either, even if you are training for the Tour de France. In fact according to this site, 100 miles is a bit of a stretch for most people and therefore not a reasonable trip. The kebab is neither here nor there.
Two things.

1) This isn't a Covid 19 thread so take your views on lockdowns and reasonable excuses to one of those. They are NOT hard to find.

2) 100 miles on a bike is NOT a "stretch" for me. You are entitled to your opinion, but I'm equally entitled to advise you that it's wrong, and that you can keep it to yourself.

Just yesterday I rode to a bike shop 10 miles away, dropped my bike off for some work, then ran 12 miles home. I'm not even particularly fit, and my pace (compared to the average amateur cyclist/runner) is woeful. Yet I'll happily do a 100 mile bike ride if there's enough daylight and the weather looks nice. People make far too much fuss about perceived "feats of endurance". They're often more about mental fitness and application than physical prowess.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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OllieJolly said:
Hmm... another takeaway fine by the looks of it: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/a...
OK. I'll bite. Audi driver deserved all he got. If i'd have been the officer conducting the stop he'd have got written up for parking on crossing zig-zags and obstructing the footway too...


I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the Covid FPN was a result of his attitude, not the other way around.

LetsTryAgain

2,904 posts

74 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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yellowjack said:
OK. I'll bite. Audi driver deserved all he got. If i'd have been the officer conducting the stop he'd have got written up for parking on crossing zig-zags and obstructing the footway too...


I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the Covid FPN was a result of his attitude, not the other way around.
Alright fella. Chill out.

Electro1980

8,310 posts

140 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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yellowjack said:
No. According to my Strava account I began the ride at 9:54 AM on Friday, September 1, 2017. The primary purpose? There were three reasons for the ride, to see the air display at the Bournemouth Air Festival, to gets some Fish and Chips from Simon's in Tuckton, and to ride my bike in the lovely sunshine. None of those reasons was more "primary" than any other really. I mean, I could have driven down and seen more of the air display, but then I'd have struggled to park when I got there and driving wouldn't have been as much fun.

The evidence is here... https://www.strava.com/activities/1163547782 ...though, and it'll only disappoint. The Fish and Chips turns out to have been Pie and Chips. My Garmin device ran out of puff before I did so it recorded "only" 148 miles ( #humblebrag ) instead of the full 160 (-ish). And because I left it until 10am to leave the house I missed all of the air display except for the Red Arrows. You must think me a terrible fraud...
If it’s not on Strava...