One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 5

[Roger Irrelevant]

nonsequitur said:

Also see 'Mumsnet'.

That is another one that annoys me! Usually used by somebody who's floundering badly in their argument that drink driving is fine because they used to do it and they're not dead, or that schoolchildren should be given a pack of fags and a gun.

[LunarOne]

Roger Irrelevant said:

or that schoolchildren should be given a pack of fags and a gun.

Is this no longer the case then?

[biggbn]

Roger Irrelevant said:

nonsequitur said:

Also see 'Mumsnet'.

That is another one that annoys me! Usually used by somebody who's floundering badly in their argument that drink driving is fine because they used to do it and they're not dead, or that schoolchildren should be given a pack of fags and a gun.

I was told by a poster when I posited his use of it suggested he may have an outmoded view of women and indeed motherhood that it was OK because it was 'an acceptable meme'. I'm still not sure what that means

[Greg the Fish]

LunarOne said:

"May I have" suggests asking permission to own something - permission which can be given without necessarily supplying that something. "Can I get" suggests that you would like to receive something, and thus seems to fulfil the requirement of conveying that you would like to receive the product or service from the person you are requesting it from. Therefore, "can I get' seems a perfectly reasonable phrase to use in place of "may I have". Personally, I tend to say "could I have" in this situation.

You are so so wrong.

Ok, if you're at a bar and you want a pint (oh my god! Remember those days? Actually standing at a bar and ordering a pint!!!) 'Can I get...' refers to 'I will help myself to a pint'...If you said 'please could you get me a pint of...' then that would be different.

Correct grammar, let alone etiquette, is 'Please may I have'. They are providing you with the 'pint' and then the pint is yours to do with it as you wish so they have no assumption they will be getting it back. As it is yours, please feel free to pour it over the knob standing next to you that gets served next and says, 'Can I get...'

Unfortunately, grammar and etiquette seem to be dying, rapidly, in this country.

[LetsTryAgain]

Greg the Fish said:

Unfortunately, grammar and etiquette seem to be dying, rapidly, in this country.

Everything else is; what makes you think those two would 'get a pass'?

[Tommo87]

Roger Irrelevant said:

Couple of forum specific ones:

Calling somebody a 'troll' just because they disagree with you, or even the majority view on a forum. If they're polite(ish) and have put forward a reasonable argument as to why they think the way they do, then they're not a troll, they just have a different opinion.

Decrying an article as 'clickbait' when it's nothing of the sort. 'Clickbait' in this context is when an article has a misleading and sensationalist headline that the article underneath it can't sustain. It's not just when an article is published that the publisher hopes will get a lot of views/comments (which is basically every article ever published online).

There’s at least one person, who will accuse posters of having XYZ phobia, if they disagree with them

For example a story about a man and his wife, with a moral they disagree with, would instead be fixated on the fact he/she never said Partner, instead of wife, in an attempt to silence them.

[Miserablegit]

Greg the Fish said:

You are so so wrong.

Ok, if you're at a bar and you want a pint (oh my god! Remember those days? Actually standing at a bar and ordering a pint!!!) 'Can I get...' refers to 'I will help myself to a pint'...If you said 'please could you get me a pint of...' then that would be different.

Correct grammar, let alone etiquette, is 'Please may I have'. They are providing you with the 'pint' and then the pint is yours to do with it as you wish so they have no assumption they will be getting it back. As it is yours, please feel free to pour it over the knob standing next to you that gets served next and says, 'Can I get...'

Unfortunately, grammar and etiquette seem to be dying, rapidly, in this country.

I always associate “can” with a question of ability and “may” associated with a polite request.

“Can you play the guitar?” “yes I can play the guitar”
“Can I play the guitar?” “I have no idea as we’ve just met”
“May I play your guitar?” “yes you may play my guitar”


“Can I play your guitar?” “No you cannot. You’re a st bass player and don’t have the skills to play the six strings of joy that are my guitar. Your songwriting skills are those of a drunken six year old and only the drummer is less talented than you. You are only in the band because you have a van”

[LunarOne]

Miserablegit said:

“Can I play your guitar?” “No you cannot. You’re a st bass player and don’t have the skills to play the six strings of joy that are my guitar. Your songwriting skills are those of a drunken six year old and only the drummer is less talented than you. You are only in the band because you have a van”

And this, children, is the story of how Miserable Git got his name!

[Cold]

LunarOne said:

Miserablegit said:

“Can I play your guitar?” “No you cannot. You’re a st bass player and don’t have the skills to play the six strings of joy that are my guitar. Your songwriting skills are those of a drunken six year old and only the drummer is less talented than you. You are only in the band because you have a van”

And this, children, is the story of how Miserable Git got his name!

Never mind that, I want to know how he got his van.

[Roger Irrelevant]

LunarOne said:

Roger Irrelevant said:

or that schoolchildren should be given a pack of fags and a gun.

Is this no longer the case then?

It's political correctness gone mad. Or health n' safety. Got to be one of the two, everything is.

[donkmeister]

Miserablegit said:

“Can I play your guitar?” “No you cannot. You’re a st bass player and don’t have the skills to play the six strings of joy that are my guitar. Your songwriting skills are those of a drunken six year old and only the drummer is less talented than you. You are only in the band because you have a van”

Ooh did a bass player steal your missus while you were trying to impress people with widdly bendy sounds? Everyone knows a decent bass solo can drop knickers from 20 paces.

You need big hands to play bass. And you know what they say about a man with big hands...

[Greg the Fish]

Roger Irrelevant said:

LunarOne said:

Roger Irrelevant said:

or that schoolchildren should be given a pack of fags and a gun.

Is this no longer the case then?

It's political correctness gone mad. Or health n' safety. Got to be one of the two, everything is.

It was quite refreshing to see this article in the local rag the other day.

A headmaster of a school doing 'dangerous' stuff (no, not that sort your sick minded individuals) with his pupils...

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/19042914.covid-19-...

[yellowjack]

donkmeister said:

Ooh did a bass player steal your missus while you were trying to impress people with widdly bendy sounds? Everyone knows a decent bass solo can drop knickers from 20 paces.

You need big hands to play bass. And you know what they say about a man with big hands...

...he needs big gloves!

[Deranged Rover]

LunarOne said:

"May I have" suggests asking permission to own something - permission which can be given without necessarily supplying that something. "Can I get" suggests that you would like to receive something, and thus seems to fulfil the requirement of conveying that you would like to receive the product or service from the person you are requesting it from. Therefore, "can I get' seems a perfectly reasonable phrase to use in place of "may I have". Personally, I tend to say "could I have" in this situation.

Absolutely wrong.

Ignoring the fact that "get" and "got" are appalling words, asking a barista, for example, "Can I get a coffee?" should elicit only one of two answers:

"No sir, I'm afraid you're not allowed behind the counter, I will have to to get it for you"

"Yes, sir, you can get coffee here. Would you like me to prepare one for you?"

As you can see, any career where I had to deal with the general public would be incredibly short...

[Miserablegit]

donkmeister said:

And you know what they say about a man with big hands...

“stick him on bass as he’ll be f@ck all use at anything else musical - he can stand at the back and stop the drummer from chewing the power cables” ?

[nonsequitur]

Roger Irrelevant said:

nonsequitur said:

Also see 'Mumsnet'.

That is another one that annoys me! Usually used by somebody who's floundering badly in their argument that drink driving is fine because they used to do it and they're not dead, or that schoolchildren should be given a pack of fags and a gun.

A current one. 'Sheep' for those who follow the rules / guidance of the pandemic restrictions and make up their own mind, as to whether something, although legal, consider it a step too far

[T6 vanman]

Miserablegit said:

I always associate “can” with a question of ability and “may” associated with a polite request.

“Can you play the guitar?” “yes I can play the guitar”
“Can I play the guitar?” “I have no idea as we’ve just met”
“May I play your guitar?” “yes you may play my guitar”


“Can I play your guitar?” “No you cannot. You’re a st bass player and don’t have the skills to play the six strings of joy that are my guitar. Your songwriting skills are those of a drunken six year old and only the drummer is less talented than you. You are only in the band because you have a van”

[buymeabar]

Deranged Rover said:

Absolutely wrong.

Ignoring the fact that "get" and "got" are appalling words, asking a barista, for example, "Can I get a coffee?" should elicit only one of two answers:

"No sir, I'm afraid you're not allowed behind the counter, I will have to to get it for you"

"Yes, sir, you can get coffee here. Would you like me to prepare one for you?"

As you can see, any career where I had to deal with the general public would be incredibly short...

Exactly the same sentiment here from me. Which leads me to my huge pet hate: Americans on holiday. Having to share space with them in restaurants and listening to them saying to servers ‘I’ll take an XYZZY. No please or thank you, just I’ll take. Arrogant, rude fks

[Greg the Fish]

buymeabar said:

Exactly the same sentiment here from me. Which leads me to my huge pet hate: Americans on holiday. Having to share space with them in restaurants and listening to them saying to servers ‘I’ll take an XYZZY. No please or thank you, just I’ll take. Arrogant, rude fks

Even the Yanks aren't as vile as the bloody Russians on holiday

[LetsTryAgain]

buymeabar said:

Exactly the same sentiment here from me. Which leads me to my huge pet hate: Americans on holiday. Having to share space with them in restaurants and listening to them saying to servers ‘I’ll take an XYZZY. No please or thank you, just I’ll take. Arrogant, rude fks

I must have been 12 or 13 when 'we' went to Gurnsey or Jersey.
Stood waiting for something or other to happen and some American piped up next to us - "Gee, these guys have a real problem with parking spaces. They should build a few multi-storey car parks".
Heard my Dad under his breath just say - "Bloody yanks. Tosser".