Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 18]

[g3org3y]

stickleback123 said:

g3org3y said:

Seller and I have different definitions re 'lots of equipment'.

I tried for a while to find a decent S350d, and there were loads of adverts saying things like "MEGA SPEC, £££££££ OF EXTRAS" and it'd be a bog basic car with plastic seats, no DAB radio, a twisty turny key etc.

Mega spec seems to still mean electric windows and a heated rear windscreen for some sellers.

"Fully Loaded" = electric mirrors, electric windows, aircon (just needing a regas natch) and CD player...

[5 In a Row]

stickleback123 said:

g3org3y said:

Seller and I have different definitions re 'lots of equipment'.

I tried for a while to find a decent S350d, and there were loads of adverts saying things like "MEGA SPEC, £££££££ OF EXTRAS" and it'd be a bog basic car with plastic seats, no DAB radio, a twisty turny key etc.

Mega spec seems to still mean electric windows and a heated rear windscreen for some sellers.

BMW dealers are bad for this, if you look at the approved used site everything is flagged as 'High Spec' yet when you go into it a lot of them have had zero extras added.

[g3org3y]

As an aside for Barge fans who are looking to buy BMWs with the N52 6 cylinder engine...please be wary of the heated PCV angle connector. It can degrade over time, cause a short and a fire as I found out over the weekend!



The part was recalled in the US, but not in the UK.

[21st Century Man]

I would make describing standard features as extras a Capital Offence. It really annoys me. Along with phrases like "All the usual extras" which to me means that the original buyer specified a number of the more popular and common options. But no, it's just standard specification.

[anonymous-user]

g3org3y said:

As an aside for Barge fans who are looking to buy BMWs with the N52 6 cylinder engine...please be wary of the heated PCV angle connector. It can degrade over time, cause a short and a fire as I found out over the weekend!



The part was recalled in the US, but not in the UK.

I've never seen a PCV system with any heating in it, I don't really see what that's in aid of but I'm curious now! Wouldn't be like a German car company to add something almost completely useless and then make it badly so it fails at 10 years old, of course.

Actually having it catch fire is really upping their game over the old classics like grenading the engine or stranding you at the side of the road though - will the innovation ever cease??

ETA - It's to stop the PCV system freezing from moisture in the crankcase and the fresh air breather. Ironically one of the issues a frozen PCV breather can cause is high crank pressure leading to oil leaks; not something I thought BMW lost much sleep over

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 1st March 17:30

[callahan]

stickleback123 said:

g3org3y said:

As an aside for Barge fans who are looking to buy BMWs with the N52 6 cylinder engine...please be wary of the heated PCV angle connector. It can degrade over time, cause a short and a fire as I found out over the weekend!



The part was recalled in the US, but not in the UK.

I've never seen a PCV system with any heating in it, I don't really see what that's in aid of but I'm curious now! Wouldn't be like a German car company to add something almost completely useless and then make it badly so it fails at 10 years old, of course.

Actually having it catch fire is really upping their game over the old classics like grenading the engine or stranding you at the side of the road though - will the innovation ever cease??

ETA - It's to stop the PCV system freezing from moisture in the crankcase and the fresh air breather. Makes sense I suppose!

Edited by stickleback123 on Monday 1st March 17:28

That's an exciting feature, must remember to check my e61 tomorrow..... Thanks for the heads up!

[bolidemichael]

With regards to erroneous claims of 'FULLYLOADED' in ads, that's why I like Collecting Cars as they raise the bar for the presentation of information.

Buying a car and expecting a dealer to a) scan details of service history (GDPR aside) and b) share a VIN, is a big motivator in me holding on to my old barge for dear life.

[RoVoFob]

W00DY said:

mondayo said:

What's going on here....I saw two ads like this yesterday. Some sort of scam?

Picture 1 is the one below, picture 2 is one telling you to contact them via a random gmail account.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393161531128

Yes, there's been hundreds if not thousands of these recently. They take an old ad and steal the details photos, but ask you to email them. They don't have the car.

I found a guy on eBay who did this with six or so cars that were on Autotrader.

I informed all the actual sellers on AT, who reported the ads, which were subsequently all taken down and made sure to email the scammer posing as a buyer before the ads were taken down to see what their story was.

Nothing like a bit of online vigilantism...

[Krikkit]

stickleback123 said:

g3org3y said:

As an aside for Barge fans who are looking to buy BMWs with the N52 6 cylinder engine...please be wary of the heated PCV angle connector. It can degrade over time, cause a short and a fire as I found out over the weekend!



The part was recalled in the US, but not in the UK.

I've never seen a PCV system with any heating in it, I don't really see what that's in aid of but I'm curious now! Wouldn't be like a German car company to add something almost completely useless and then make it badly so it fails at 10 years old, of course

Just lazyness so they don't have to manufacture too many versions by the sounds - I'd imagine that same powerplant gets put into everything that gets built from the arctic circle to the tip of Italy with no changes... A frozen-up CCV would be a very nasty thing indeed.

[21st Century Man]

bolidemichael said:

I like Collecting Cars as they raise the bar for the presentation of information.

There's a Century currently for sale through Collecting Cars and the information is superb. Meanwhile, there's one for sale up in Cleveland and much of the information is way beyond factually incorrect, it's just garbage.

[Wheel_Turned_Out]

Find myself quite attracted to this 735i.



It's a suitably leggy beast at 170k, needs an MOT straight away and seller says the viscous fan clutch is stuck on. But still seems a lot of handsome metal for £2.5k.

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Wheel_Turned_Out said:

Find myself quite attracted to this 735i.



It's a suitably leggy beast at 170k, needs an MOT straight away and seller says the viscous fan clutch is stuck on. But still seems a lot of handsome metal for £2.5k.

That's got Gruber written all over it. In bigly big letters.

[Wheel_Turned_Out]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Wheel_Turned_Out said:

Find myself quite attracted to this 735i.



It's a suitably leggy beast at 170k, needs an MOT straight away and seller says the viscous fan clutch is stuck on. But still seems a lot of handsome metal for £2.5k.

That's got Gruber written all over it. In bigly big letters.

Mr Takagi won't be joining us to investigate why the has overheated again.

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

stickleback123 said:

will the innovation ever cease??

Perhaps, when it's all electric. At least with batteries they SHOULD be way, way easier to maintain. I may be completely wrong but I think from a drivetrain perspective they should be very reliable. Should be the key word there!

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Wheel_Turned_Out said:

Find myself quite attracted to this 735i.



It's a suitably leggy beast at 170k, needs an MOT straight away and seller says the viscous fan clutch is stuck on. But still seems a lot of handsome metal for £2.5k.

That's got Gruber written all over it. In bigly big letters.

Handsome ol' thing, that is. The car, not Gruber (I can't comment on the visual appearance of said threadist).

[W201_190e]

Wheel_Turned_Out said:

Find myself quite attracted to this 735i.



It's a suitably leggy beast at 170k, needs an MOT straight away and seller says the viscous fan clutch is stuck on. But still seems a lot of handsome metal for £2.5k.

Viscous fan clutch won't be a problematic issue to fix, this era of BMW V8 though we're renowned for timing chains going, effectively writing the car off. I'm not sure if it was less of an issue with the 735i compared to the 740i. Handsome thing though.

[728 days later]

Some owners are known to have trouble free M62’s, I would have thought regular annual servicing every 8/9k miles would help keep those plastic guides in better order. But the youngest E38s are still 20 years old so finding comprehensive history at this age could prove difficult

[bolidemichael]

Are timing chains likely to prove a terminal issue on a 170k and twenty year old motor?

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

bolidemichael said:

Are timing chains likely to prove a terminal issue on a 170k and twenty year old motor?

I'd say so if it were to let go

[W201_190e]

bolidemichael said:

Are timing chains likely to prove a terminal issue on a 170k and twenty year old motor?

I would have thought so!