Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 18]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 18]

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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Emeye said:
I thought options were the reserve of press and main dealer demonstrators or old people buying a car to keep forever? I have only "owned" two new car, one was a company car and the other a personal lease and came as they were - options were too expensive when it came to BIK or monthly payments, so I can see why most are billy basic as the most people either PCP or lease - shopping for a car for my mum, I noticed Audi don't even bother putting the full OTR price in the window of their cars, just the monthlies.
Don't most leases depreciate the whole cost of any options within the duration of the lease?

So you have to pay, say, 60% of the price of the car, but 100% of the value of your options, within the period of your three year lease?

So people generally don't choose any.


andburg

7,351 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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SpeckledJim said:
Don't most leases depreciate the whole cost of any options within the duration of the lease?

So you have to pay, say, 60% of the price of the car, but 100% of the value of your options, within the period of your three year lease?

So people generally don't choose any.
the only option generally taken on a company car is paint and that's because despite being a cost for P11D purposes its normally included. Dealers dont want forecourts full of cars in the exact same spec.

BigBen

11,659 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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andburg said:
SpeckledJim said:
Don't most leases depreciate the whole cost of any options within the duration of the lease?

So you have to pay, say, 60% of the price of the car, but 100% of the value of your options, within the period of your three year lease?

So people generally don't choose any.
the only option generally taken on a company car is paint and that's because despite being a cost for P11D purposes its normally included. Dealers dont want forecourts full of cars in the exact same spec.
Depends on the option. Certainly in the past choosing an auto box on a Merc would result in a cheaper lease despite the purchase price being £1000 higher. I presume this applies to other options where the residuals would be reduced by their absence.

rejn

1,991 posts

223 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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I've been absent for all of this volume, and I hope I'm not too out-of-line with this post, but here goes...

I'm sure some of you will have seen my W124 is now up for sale at Collecting Cars now - they decided they didn't like my photos so I went via their professional photographer who, to be fair, has done a pretty good job on the photos up on their site. The auction went live earlier today.

Unfortunately I also found out as part of listing the car, that the car was recorded as a Cat C - back from 2014 before I bought it, and foolishly I never did an HPI check before buying the car. Schoolboy error.

Anyway, what that does mean is that I've agreed to sell the car at No Reserve on collecting cars. So if you're interested in a good usable W124 - in 300TE-24 form, with pretty much perfect (full £5k restoration in 2017) body work, then you may be able to grab a bargain!

W00DY

15,506 posts

227 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Nice colours, sans Geraldage and apparently rust free.




https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-xk8-300bhp-Low-m...

CharlesdeGaulle

26,428 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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You fkers are a bad influence. I have just noticed that I did already have the upgraded speakers pack, so adding Harman Kardon seemed a sensible move. I also added HUD. Thread owes me 1500 EUR. bds.*


* I meant thank you for the tips.

W00DY

15,506 posts

227 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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rejn said:
I've been absent for all of this volume, and I hope I'm not too out-of-line with this post, but here goes...

I'm sure some of you will have seen my W124 is now up for sale at Collecting Cars now - they decided they didn't like my photos so I went via their professional photographer who, to be fair, has done a pretty good job on the photos up on their site. The auction went live earlier today.

Unfortunately I also found out as part of listing the car, that the car was recorded as a Cat C - back from 2014 before I bought it, and foolishly I never did an HPI check before buying the car. Schoolboy error.

Anyway, what that does mean is that I've agreed to sell the car at No Reserve on collecting cars. So if you're interested in a good usable W124 - in 300TE-24 form, with pretty much perfect (full £5k restoration in 2017) body work, then you may be able to grab a bargain!
Ouch, that sucks about the Cat C, but still a wonderful car.


https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1989-mercedes-...

Marcq

72 posts

98 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Rubins4 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
It is value-less here. 1000 EUR against the new one.

If conditions allow in July, I'll drive or transport it over if any threadists wanted it at sensible money, or fancied flying over and collecting.
I may genuinely be interested in this. South East based. Will need full details of LS, of course.
Same here! I will be moving back to England from Switzerland this summer and it would be very useful to have another car to carry all of our junk (the other car is Discovery 4, quite thread I think?)

W00DY

15,506 posts

227 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
You fkers are a bad influence. I have just noticed that I did already have the upgraded speakers pack, so adding Harman Kardon seemed a sensible move. I also added HUD. Thread owes me 1500 EUR. bds.*


* I meant thank you for the tips.
Individual brown velour is already specified I presume?

LetsTryAgain

2,904 posts

74 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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W00DY said:
Ouch, that sucks about the Cat C, but still a wonderful car.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1989-mercedes-...
I absolutely love those houses in Bath.
There is a similar row in Thirsk as well.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,428 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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W00DY said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
You fkers are a bad influence. I have just noticed that I did already have the upgraded speakers pack, so adding Harman Kardon seemed a sensible move. I also added HUD. Thread owes me 1500 EUR. bds.*


* I meant thank you for the tips.
Individual brown velour is already specified I presume?
I'd have had velour if they did it. Heated Mokka (sic) leather will have to do instead.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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W00DY said:
Ouch, that sucks about the Cat C, but still a wonderful car.


https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1989-mercedes-...
That's utterly super. I'd be overjoyed with that.

ian316

4,150 posts

106 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
LetsTryAgain said:
bolidemichael said:
Quite the revelation and whilst pleased for Ian, disappointed that the groupthink has been challenged.
The groupthink hasn’t really been challenged properly, I don’t think.
It’s just that if you try and criticise, thread calls you racist.
Seems to me that the groupthink was 'avoid motorhub/criminals/money laundering/drugs etc'. Ian challenged it and got his wife the car she wanted at a price he was comfortable with. Not really sure that it's anyone else's business - he's happy.
I had heard and read all about motorhub but 70ish miles isn't far from us so if it had been a lemon, I hadn't wasted more than a few hours they had no problem with me going all through it. My main thinking was they can't all be crap and we had seen worse at main dealers who wanted nearly 5k more which was a big enough war chest tbh

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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SpeckledJim said:
W00DY said:
Ouch, that sucks about the Cat C, but still a wonderful car.


https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1989-mercedes-...
That's utterly super. I'd be overjoyed with that.
How much might a car like that be expected to sell for?

The spinner of plates

17,757 posts

201 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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alec.e said:
Nothing wrong with a V6 X350, owned two of them, both were incredibly smooth for a V6. They are not fast, but make decent progress possible. By all means get a 4.2 V8 if in budget, but otherwise the V6 is a worthy engine.
I admit the lighter nose and alu build made it feel as light as a class below.

ian316

4,150 posts

106 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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W00DY said:
Nice colours, sans Geraldage and apparently rust free.




https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-xk8-300bhp-Low-m...
Very nice but no cruise control is a deal beaker on a Jag for me

5 In a Row

1,502 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
You fkers are a bad influence. I have just noticed that I did already have the upgraded speakers pack, so adding Harman Kardon seemed a sensible move. I also added HUD. Thread owes me 1500 EUR. bds.*


* I meant thank you for the tips.
Your German techno pop will sound so much better now.
Remember that if you're listening to it in town it is the law to drive more slowly and turn it up so everyone walking by can be amazed at your splendid musical taste.

Timberwolf

5,348 posts

219 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
You fkers are a bad influence. I have just noticed that I did already have the upgraded speakers pack, so adding Harman Kardon seemed a sensible move.
HK is a worthwhile upgrade IMO, I personally feel all the audio options in the 3 series are less good than they ought to be for the price, but the Harman Kardon system at least sounds decent once it's turned up a bit and the under-seat speakers are properly engaged. G20 system is supposed to be better-sounding than the F30 one despite less power on paper, so it may be they've sorted out the slightly thin sound at lower volumes which is my main complaint about the older one.

(Disclaimer: I suspect I've been spoiled a bit here by Volvo, who have a talent for making even the fairly basic 4x40W mid-level systems sound fantastic given how bad an environment the interior of a moving car is for music. The higher end options in the old P2 cars were approaching home hi-fi quality.)

ian316

4,150 posts

106 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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This is on sale on FB for 1399 of your english pounds with mot until nov 21 what could possibly go wrong

r129sl

9,518 posts

204 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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W00DY said:
rejn said:
I've been absent for all of this volume, and I hope I'm not too out-of-line with this post, but here goes...

I'm sure some of you will have seen my W124 is now up for sale at Collecting Cars now - they decided they didn't like my photos so I went via their professional photographer who, to be fair, has done a pretty good job on the photos up on their site. The auction went live earlier today.

Unfortunately I also found out as part of listing the car, that the car was recorded as a Cat C - back from 2014 before I bought it, and foolishly I never did an HPI check before buying the car. Schoolboy error.

Anyway, what that does mean is that I've agreed to sell the car at No Reserve on collecting cars. So if you're interested in a good usable W124 - in 300TE-24 form, with pretty much perfect (full £5k restoration in 2017) body work, then you may be able to grab a bargain!
Ouch, that sucks about the Cat C, but still a wonderful car.


https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1989-mercedes-...
I have seen this car several times and it is straight as a die.

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