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[g3org3y]

J.C... said:

Emeye said:

ETA - grumpy stuck in hospital post warning:

Many car dealers or traders seem to think they are some sort of gifted sales gods providing an essential service to people, rather than a necessary evil we have to deal with. They accuse customers who don't want to put up with their BS as being time wasters, but in my experience many of them are much bigger time wasters - so many cars described as FSH, mint, immaculate, stunning etc etc that are not and never have been. There are some good ones out there, but it's a lottery.

The High Peak car dealer guy who posts on Youtube did a video a couple of weeks ago complaining about some of his customers. He said that he doesn't think customers shouldn't have any comeback when buying cheap cars off him - if that is the case why should he be able to make a profit selling them? - can't have your cake etc Listening to him moan has put me off watching his videos - in the end his experience is no different from anyone selling anything - you have to deal with idiots in all walks of life, but not many people are going to have sympathy with someone selling used cars for a living. If you don't want hassle selling cheap st cars don't sell cheap st cars - even being as honest a seller is going to get people turning up expecting a brand new cheap car.

i prefer to buy off private sellers but they can be just as dishonest - some make Donald Trump look like a saint.

EETA - thanks for the kinds words sorry to be a grumpy git.

Edited by Emeye on Friday 16th April 16:18

That fellas an absolute weapon. Is that the video where he says something along the lines of “I’m sick of poor people who can’t afford a decent car - if you can’t afford a decent car you should just work a bit harder til you can” then presumably go and buy one from a decent dealer rather than the fella who wouldn’t be a failed actor/failed pilot/low level Youtuber flogging bottom of the market “luxury” marques if he’d just worked a bit harder?

Wow, which video was that one? ( Edit: this one) I've watched a few of his videos before and he struck me as fairly decent.

Edit: he's not a fan of mechanics either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sof5pYuzWS4

Emeye, you're absolutely right. If you're a trader you're a trader, regardless of price point. If you don't want the hassle of the lower end of the market, don't sell those cars. Dealing with the general public is misery though tbf and a lot will depend whether the customer's gripes are legit/reasonable.

bolidemichael said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

LetsTryAgain said:

"fk this knobhead"

Apart from bolidemichael's tattooed G-wagon bird, this is the closest we've got to normal Friday postings. Did I miss a Mod warning or something?

We also had ge0rgy's E34 bird. It's almost the first thing I saw post-slumber and had me muttering '? ??????? ???!', which basically means 'goodness me' in the mother tongue. Prinny will understand.

I believe that we've either depleted our photo stocks, come to our senses, or been chastened by the single woke twenty something year old on here; he whose friends represent some sort of relationship busting consequence for the majority of us. I assume.

That is for certain with the exception of CdG, whose empty self critique reminds me of the question posed to George Best when with a Miss World. "George, where did it all go wrong?".

Pretty sure it was on E30.

Reposted just to be sure....

g3org3y said:

TGIF etc

Yes, definitely an E30

Edited by g3org3y on Saturday 17th April 07:11

[bolidemichael]

g3org3y said:

Yes, definitely an E30

Edited by g3org3y on Saturday 17th April 07:11

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[Macron]

Surely even a recon box for a 4.2S FFRR can't be that much?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021022594...

[phil_cardiff]

Macron said:

Surely even a recon box for a 4.2S FFRR can't be that much?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021022594...

Apparently the gas conversion makes it cheap to run. Forgive my scepticism on that one...

[g3org3y]

bolidemichael said:

g3org3y said:

Yes, definitely an E30

Edited by g3org3y on Saturday 17th April 07:11

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[Emeye]

mondayo said:

A) remind us of your current fleet.
B) pictures (not of the fleet).

A) Not very thread, but I have 4 kids so needs* must: 2000 Honda Accord 1.8S, Old and newer XC90 D5, 2005 VW Caravelle Executive 2.5TDi
B) I would, but I don't want to end up on "the list".

• = no one needs 4 cars - I will be consolidating them as soon as health and time allows and I am inheriting my dad's old Jeep Patriot. The Honda is probably the closest to thread - it has a lovely solid old skool feel to it, is very basic, other than the essentials of ABS and working aircon - I will struggle to let it go as it owes me nothing and cost peanuts to run - my eldest could learn to drive in it but the insurance is silly.

[tobinen]

Get well soon Emeye.

Today I will be mostly wrestling with an E39 header tank and cowl.

[ferrisbueller]

Macron said:

W00DY said:

The future.

I wonder though, as full e cars are still silly money, which will change but by 2030 used ones which are cheap will have signs of degradation I'm sure, will we actually be choosing the platform that works for us best personally, and when petrol is not lawful in over 5l tins (for agricultural use), just converting them?

Eg:





Bonus points for it looking quite cool under there...



I mean a new Tesla I'm sure is a nice thing, but if you can retain the class aspect...

I'll be waiting to see how things go with synthetic fuels before bdising classic cars.

The conversion kits also need to come down in price, and up in performance, significantly before it's viable.

[ian316]

Emeye said:

Not surprised - exactly what I expected. I'd be disappointed otherwise.

I don't think anyone here wants any of my current fleet. Nurses? Have you ever watched a Carry On film? Just like that - honestly, just stunning.

[g3org3y]

Emeye said:

mondayo said:

A) remind us of your current fleet.
B) pictures (not of the fleet).

A) Not very thread, but I have 4 kids so needs* must: 2000 Honda Accord 1.8S, Old and newer XC90 D5, 2005 VW Caravelle Executive 2.5TDi
B) I would, but I don't want to end up on "the list".

* = no one needs 4 cars - I will be consolidating them as soon as health and time allows and I am inheriting my dad's old Jeep Patriot. The Honda is probably the closest to thread - it has a lovely solid old skool feel to it, is very basic, other than the essentials of ABS and working aircon - I will struggle to let it go as it owes me nothing and cost peanuts to run - my eldest could learn to drive in it but the insurance is silly.

And here's telling the wife I need #5. Unfortunately space on the drive/in the garage is the limiting factor.

[ian316]

Macron said:

I wonder though, as full e cars are still silly money, which will change but by 2030 used ones which are cheap will have signs of degradation I'm sure, will we actually be choosing the platform that works for us best personally, and when petrol is not lawful in over 5l tins (for agricultural use), just converting them?

Eg:





Bonus points for it looking quite cool under there...



I mean a new Tesla I'm sure is a nice thing, but if you can retain the class aspect...

The TV programme that does this is worth a watch I like the idea of this

[grudas]

Johnspex said:

To be absolutely clear I am asking this without a hint of criticism or scorn or sarcasm.

Why do you want an imported car, not uk market, which must present problems with spares, insurance, workshop knowledge etc? What do you get that you don't get with a UK market car of any marque? Having said that those 2 look as cool as a cool thing with a special reason to be cool.
I can sort of understand withoseluxury van/people carrier things but not so much with a conventional 3 box saloon.

A few reasons really.

Majesta V8 for example was never sold in UK.
UK cars with similar spec (ls430/460) are often very tired and in spec I wouldn't want (silver, cream leather etc) - trust me I've been looking
Rust is another issue that majority Japanese imports do not suffer with
They're more interesting/quirky is another reason, I often switch cars quickly but if it's something unusual/something it never see on UK roads it'll keep me entertained longer.

Parts is difficult yes but insurance and servicing is nothing unusual, being Toyota it shares parts with cars sold here(ls/gs lexus) the only real difficult to get items are things like body panels, glass etc.

But I'll be honest, the main reason is the spec. I simply cannot find anything here that fits what I want. Not even budget limited. Finding a black on black ls430 in good condition seems to be impossible. I've seen one over the last 2 years.

[harrykul]

ferrisbueller said:

I'll be waiting to see how things go with synthetic fuels before bdising classic cars.

The conversion kits also need to come down in price, and up in performance, significantly before it's viable.

Tbh I'm thinking about it for our 900 Carlson: the engine is strong but not very refined and the gear change is awful.
Some cars are cool/great despite their drivetrain: Citroen DS is another prime candidate.

[ferrisbueller]

harrykul said:

ferrisbueller said:

I'll be waiting to see how things go with synthetic fuels before bdising classic cars.

The conversion kits also need to come down in price, and up in performance, significantly before it's viable.

Tbh I'm thinking about it for our 900 Carlson: the engine is strong but not very refined and the gear change is awful.
Some cars are cool/great despite their drivetrain: Citroen DS is another prime candidate.

I'd give it a couple of years until the technology evolves to a better place.

[harrykul]

True. Won't be happening any time soon for us.

[plasticpig]

Macron said:

Surely even a recon box for a 4.2S FFRR can't be that much?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021022594...

The JLR specialist I use reckons the V8’s don’t cope well with LPG and warned me off buying one.

[Emeye]

Having rented one for a weekend, I'd have a Tesla tomorrow if I could afford one as my daily driver, but I would still want an older ICE car or two, or three, etc knocking around. Nothing else modern really appeals.

Classic cars being made electric intrigues and baffles me, as the engine is usually part of the package and character and therefore the appeal, even a clunky old engine. A Tesla as a package, even with all the beta release tech, is a very appealing prospect, it's interesting and something different in a world where marketing BS is the main differentiator between contemporary car manufacturers.. Rich Rebuilds on youtube is making a V8 Tesla, just because he can, but I don't think anyone in the real world would want a V8 Tesla.

[Dapster]

Macron said:

Eg:

The SL Shop do a R107 conversion too which if you include the cost of the resto that would no doubt have to go with it would make it Tesla S money I'd imagine



https://www.theslshop.com/clubhouse/2020/03/25/the...

[Emeye]

Dapster said:

The SL Shop do a R107 conversion too which if you include the cost of the resto that would no doubt have to go with it would make it Tesla S money I'd imagine



https://www.theslshop.com/clubhouse/2020/03/25/the...

I can just imagine it now....

Cruising top down into Monaco, on a beautiful summer's evening, accompanied by the electric soundtrack of the whine of a tortured washing machine.

[plasticpig]

Emeye said:

I can just imagine it now....

Cruising top down into Monaco, on a beautiful summer's evening, accompanied by the electric soundtrack of the whine of a tortured washing machine.

You could record the exhaust note of the car at various RPM before electrification and then have a box of tricks in the car post electrification that plays the correct exhaust note from speakers at the equivalent speed / revs.