RE: Lexus IS F | Spotted

RE: Lexus IS F | Spotted

Tuesday 23rd February 2021

Lexus IS F | Spotted

The US is getting a new V8-powered IS denied to the UK. Shame, because the last one wasn't half bad...



Typically, it's American car enthusiasts that are jealous of their European counterparts and the cars kept from the US. More recently, however, the tables have been turned, with a glut of really exciting fast cars that will remain Stateside. Think Mustang GT500, Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing, Hyundai Veloster N and so on. Maybe even the Ram 1500 TRX, for those with the space. And the fuel money.

Now there's a Lexus to add to that list - the IS 500 F Sport. Described by its maker as boasting "the perfect balance of sportiness and sophistication" to be nothing less than "the best IS to date", the F Sport utilises the naturally aspirated 5.0-litre V8 familiar from the LC. With the same outputs as that car - 478hp and 395lb ft - plus a moderate 65kg penalty over the V6 model, the IS 500 F Sport is quick: Lexus says 0-60mph in just 4.5 seconds. For the performance on offer the F Sport is remarkably subtle, too, a proper Q car just when it seemed the genre had died out. The trademark stacked exhausts are a bit of a giveaway, but otherwise it's a regular IS for those that don't spot the new bonnet and Enkei wheels - perfect.


Of course, without an IS of any kind on sale in the UK anymore, there's not a chance of the F Sport coming over here. Which is a shame, if understandable - Lexus would sell about nine. But those who like the idea of an IS with a rip-snorting V8 need not worry, because the old F is looking a more attractive used proposition than ever.

That's because, while the Lexus might not have been quite as sharp to drive when new as its rivals from BMW and AMG, priorities change as cars get older. When you're considering stuff which has been out of production for at least half a dozen years - and which have likely had a few owners, too - the appeal of Lexus's meticulous build quality becomes hard to ignore. Both E90 M3 and W204 C63 aren't exactly what you'd call fault-free; by contrast the Lexus has proved pretty tough. The PH Buying Guide verdict made that clear: "It's affordable to buy and, fuel costs aside, cheap to run. Even high-milers will often still feel factory-tight. Lexus's fine build quality and reliability should mean that you'll be incurring few costs over and above those of normal consumables."

This particular IS F is one of the last registered, a facelifted car on a 62-plate. The updated car, introduced in 2010, is worth seeking out as it brought a mechanical limited-slip diff to the package for the first time. It also introduced white leather to the options list, an extra the original owner of this silver example quite inexplicably went for.


Still, upholstery aside, there's plenty to be encouraged by. The 56,000 miles are backed up with a full Lexus main dealer service history, the most recent MOT was passed with no advisories and all four Michelin Pilot Sport tyres are said to have three quarters of their tread.

At the moment, it is the only IS F in the classifieds, which shows just how rare they really were. By comparison there are three four-door, V8 M3s (and everyone says how scarce they are!) as well as 14 C63s of the same era. The Lexus is for sale at £24,950, which is about comparable with the Germans: both this C63 and M3 are £25k, albeit with slightly fewer miles than the Lexus. Potentially the F's smaller production run might help its residuals in the long run; even if it doesn't, though, its array of talents is sufficient for it to still merit consideration alongside the obvious alternatives. Much as, you would have to assume, the IS 500 F Sport will do in the US - the lucky devils.


SPECIFICATION | LEXUS IS F

Engine: 4,968cc, V8
Transmission: 8-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 423@6,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 372@5,200rpm
MPG: 24.8
CO2: 283g/km
Recorded mileage: 56,000
First registered: 2012
Price new: £55,995
Yours for: £24,995

See the original advert here.






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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

30,686 posts

180 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I've always liked these. A lovely V8 engine in a reliable car. I also like the lighter leather in this example as well. It is a shame for me that these didn't get offered with a manual gearbox though. That is where the E9x M3 has the edge over this and the C63 I reckon(even though the manual isn't that great to use to be fair).

-crookedtail-

1,563 posts

190 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I've always liked these from afar, nice left field alternative to the typical European candidates. Not sure I would want to drop 25K on one though, a slightly older one at 15K I think is a good deal.

However this one is getting close to F80 M3 money and although not comparing apples to apples I think that is where my money would go if I was in the market for such a thing.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

107 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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going for stupid money, a couple of years ago these were going for 12k.

culpz

4,884 posts

112 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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cerb4.5lee said:
I've always liked these. A lovely V8 engine in a reliable car. I also like the lighter leather in this example as well. It is a shame for me that these didn't get offered with a manual gearbox though. That is where the E9x M3 has the edge over this and the C63 I reckon(even though the manual isn't that great to use to be fair).
It's actually probably a good thing they didn't offer a manual in these, as the one you get in the equivalent IS250 is supposed to be pretty crap and actually puts the car in the highest tax bracket over the automatic. I assume it would have been the same issue with the ISF.

I believe the 8-speed 'box in these are pretty good and are as strong as the rest of the car.

J4CKO

41,603 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Pistonheader101 said:
going for stupid money, a couple of years ago these were going for 12k.
Up for stupid money, everything seems to be at the moment, though this is a late, fairly low mileage one and they were never 12 grand for that combination.


borat52

564 posts

208 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Pistonheader101 said:
going for stupid money, a couple of years ago these were going for 12k.
Strong money agreed but I've never seen a later LSD car for anywhere near £12k.

culpz

4,884 posts

112 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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-crookedtail- said:
I've always liked these from afar, nice left field alternative to the typical European candidates. Not sure I would want to drop 25K on one though, a slightly older one at 15K I think is a good deal.

However this one is getting close to F80 M3 money and although not comparing apples to apples I think that is where my money would go if I was in the market for such a thing.
M3 at that price is stonking value in comparison, i must admit. However, it's also got the potential to be pretty ruinous to run, which the Lexus generally won't be.

Sandpit Steve

10,066 posts

74 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Always loved these. A big n/a V8 and, unlike the German rivals, not a Brave Pill when 15 years old, it’ll carry on forever as long as you change the oil occasionally!

the Carguy

38 posts

71 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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God what a lovely thing,Yamaha beams v8>>? if only they had made a manual

Axeboy

356 posts

120 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Great cars, sold mine last year and in an s6 now, miss that drivetrain so much

While reliable overall, they still have areas that need attention. Safer bet, probably.

Edited by Axeboy on Tuesday 23 February 12:02

TurboHatchback

4,162 posts

153 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Delightful but £25k? I think not.

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Great cars, I did try one a very long time ago the only thing I didn't like was the ride. But that is now addressed by the excellent Tein EDFC system which is an active coil-over upgrade. A few owners have done this and it does transform the car (I had the system fitted to my Mini Clubvan and it gives a limo like ride) I know someone on the Lexus forum has this system and it really does work.

toothy1911

10 posts

120 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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My F is 10 years old next month, with only 47K on it. Family owned since new.
I love it's so rare, there's only around 200 in the UK. People in the know appreciate it, but it's otherwise ignored. Perfect Q car.
I struggle to think of what I would replace it with, which is why we've kept it so long.

jwwbowe

577 posts

172 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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These are fantastic, would love one. They are more robust and far rarer in UK roads than the German equivalents. Q car looks are great to.

Minor issue you can’t really fit a rear facing ISOFIX seat in the back without moving the front passenger seat so far forward to a point there is no legroom. Worth considering if it is to be a family four door, why we don’t have one unfortunately.






MTPLTD

12 posts

179 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I have a 2006 is220.

It is treated with utter contempt by myself and my partner. It's never been serviced since I bought it, it came with no service history and is battered all around.

The interior is wearing too thanks to dog and kids. I barely even wash it. It's an absolute hack. Currently just below 160,000 short journey miles.

Everything works, all the switches, all the gizmos, everything. I always consider just getting rid of it, but every time I drive it I can't help but love it. I don't desire it, but I love its sheer robustness and build quality so I just can't part with it.

When (if it dies) I will replace it with another Lexus. I doubt it will be a second-hand is250 as I think regardless of age, they all look the same to me and all the design tweaks just make it look a bit more pointy, but I don't think I've ever owned anything so determined to resist failure.

The only thing I just can't warm to is the myriad of buttons for the HVAC, stereo etc. It just looks like a cheap ghetto blaster.

However, I'd certainly buy a fast Lexus over an equivalent German offering just so I could sleep at night and not expect some sort of cosmic bill. This is coming from owning many German marques.

craig9367

52 posts

142 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Nothing other than very high mileage tatty models made it below 14k. I bought mine 3 years ago and had to pay over 20k for a mint low mileage non LSD car, with nice LSD cars going for 30k at that time.

The car has been everything I hoped it would be. Faultless, fast, every drive an event, a lexus when you want it to be and appreciated only by those in the know. Mine is going up for sale tonight, disappointed I didnt get around to it last night as it might have featured in this article!!

FlukePlay

954 posts

145 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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MTPLTD said:
I have a 2006 is220.

It is treated with utter contempt by myself and my partner. It's never been serviced since I bought it, it came with no service history and is battered all around.

The interior is wearing too thanks to dog and kids. I barely even wash it. It's an absolute hack. Currently just below 160,000 short journey miles.

Everything works, all the switches, all the gizmos, everything. I always consider just getting rid of it, but every time I drive it I can't help but love it. I don't desire it, but I love its sheer robustness and build quality so I just can't part with it.

When (if it dies) I will replace it with another Lexus. I doubt it will be a second-hand is250 as I think regardless of age, they all look the same to me and all the design tweaks just make it look a bit more pointy, but I don't think I've ever owned anything so determined to resist failure.

The only thing I just can't warm to is the myriad of buttons for the HVAC, stereo etc. It just looks like a cheap ghetto blaster.

However, I'd certainly buy a fast Lexus over an equivalent German offering just so I could sleep at night and not expect some sort of cosmic bill. This is coming from owning many German marques.
I love this...shows how solid and reliable a Lexus can be. However, I would never buy a car from you my dear fellow :-)

SuperNads

272 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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MTPLTD said:
I have a 2006 is220.

It is treated with utter contempt by myself and my partner. It's never been serviced since I bought it, it came with no service history and is battered all around.

The interior is wearing too thanks to dog and kids. I barely even wash it. It's an absolute hack. Currently just below 160,000 short journey miles.

Everything works, all the switches, all the gizmos, everything. I always consider just getting rid of it, but every time I drive it I can't help but love it. I don't desire it, but I love its sheer robustness and build quality so I just can't part with it.

When (if it dies) I will replace it with another Lexus. I doubt it will be a second-hand is250 as I think regardless of age, they all look the same to me and all the design tweaks just make it look a bit more pointy, but I don't think I've ever owned anything so determined to resist failure.

The only thing I just can't warm to is the myriad of buttons for the HVAC, stereo etc. It just looks like a cheap ghetto blaster.

However, I'd certainly buy a fast Lexus over an equivalent German offering just so I could sleep at night and not expect some sort of cosmic bill. This is coming from owning many German marques.
Why would you be proud of not servicing a car? That's like being proud of not brushing your teeth.

Wadeski

8,160 posts

213 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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The older I get, the more appreciation I have for a car that always works. I would take 2/10ths off the handling for not seeing an unscheduled service.


mhurley

823 posts

133 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Same tax and mpg as a V8 Vantage :-)