New number plate laws on pressed metal plates

[944 Man]

nordboy said:

Are pressed number plates legal for modern vehicles?
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Without question, yes. I have a completely compliant set on my car.

[Your Dad]

944 Man said:

nordboy said:

Are pressed number plates legal for modern vehicles?
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Without question, yes. I have a completely compliant set on my car.

I have pressed metal plates on my car, they are compliant and have the BS AU 145D stamp on them.

[Muddle238]

beaubooth__ said:

https://www.gov.uk/displaying-number-plates/rules-...

It says on the above link underneath the first section titled "Rules for Number Plates" that "Characters on a number plate can be 3D"

That link is for the BS AU145d regulations. I thought we were discussing the upcoming 145e regulations, from September 2021, which the DVLA have said 3D/4D raised digits will not be allowed.

[Your Dad]

Isn't the workaround to purchase the plates prior to the new regulation coming into force, as it's not applied retrospectively to plates already supplied and fitted to vehicles?

[Muddle238]

Your Dad said:

Isn't the workaround to purchase the plates prior to the new regulation coming into force, as it's not applied retrospectively to plates already supplied and fitted to vehicles?

Yeah that would be fine.

[944 Man]

Also: "3D" and "4D" refers to lighter colour highlighted characters and stick on cut up letters which are affixed to a regular plate, respectively. They aren't actually targeting stamped alloy plates which may well conform to 145e requirements and the rules are not applied retrospectively.

[Smitters]

What is a 4D plate even. Is the fourth dimension time? Are they made by Quantum Leap Plates Ltd?

[Hol]

AJB88 said:

Be easier if we just went the same as the rest of the world, plates supplied by an agency where they are all identical.

Anything is possible. But considering the majority of dateless and private plates you see every day are actually correctly spaced, it’s doubtful they would go to the expense.

Much easier for them to legislate the acceptable types of plate material.

I don’t think it means pressed alloy plates, unless it the faux German ones you very occasionally see, on beemers and such.

[Howard-]

Smitters said:

What is a 4D plate even. Is the fourth dimension time? Are they made by Quantum Leap Plates Ltd?

I wonder this all the time. They're raised and not flat, so surely they're just 3D rather than 2D?

Anyway, the sooner all this nonsense is banned, the better. Seeing a blacked out Range Rover with BO55 CNT or whatever in the stupid "4D" lettering is just automotive cancer. We seem to be the only country in the world with a desire to make our registration plates look fking st. Why?

[OllieJolly]

Muddle238 said:

That link is for the BS AU145d regulations. I thought we were discussing the upcoming 145e regulations, from September 2021, which the DVLA have said 3D/4D raised digits will not be allowed.

https://www.bnma.org/advice-centre/the-new-rules-british-standard-bs-au-145e/

I don't see anything on there that says 3D characters aren't allowed.
In fact, I'd say that the "Durable and able to resist:" would suit metal plates more for all of those points.

3D fonts won't be allowed, but that's all, unless I've missed something.

[1602Mark]

Do the Police pay much attention to 3D plates or whatever so long as they're correctly spaced and not trying to resemble something else? I've bought cheap eBay type plates for years and I don't think they've ever had the BS mark or whatever but they've never been a problem.

[944 Man]

Smitters said:

What is a 4D plate even. Is the fourth dimension time? Are they made by Quantum Leap Plates Ltd?

I used quotation marks to try to differentiate. It is an attempt to describe a might be legal plate with stick on letter atop the characters depicted on the plate, in the correct CW font. One step beyond "3D" plates, which is an attempt to describe legal font characters with lighter coloured aspects intended to make them appear less two dimensional.

[Smitters]

944 Man said:

Smitters said:

What is a 4D plate even. Is the fourth dimension time? Are they made by Quantum Leap Plates Ltd?

I used quotation marks to try to differentiate. It is an attempt to describe a might be legal plate with stick on letter atop the characters depicted on the plate, in the correct CW font. One step beyond "3D" plates, which is an attempt to describe legal font characters with lighter coloured aspects intended to make them appear less two dimensional.

Not having a dig at you. I've always wondered is all.

[944 Man]

Smitters said:

944 Man said:

Smitters said:

What is a 4D plate even. Is the fourth dimension time? Are they made by Quantum Leap Plates Ltd?

I used quotation marks to try to differentiate. It is an attempt to describe a might be legal plate with stick on letter atop the characters depicted on the plate, in the correct CW font. One step beyond "3D" plates, which is an attempt to describe legal font characters with lighter coloured aspects intended to make them appear less two dimensional.

Not having a dig at you. I've always wondered is all.

I didnt think that you were. I was acknowledging that their terms are well-intentioned but meaningless, unless you already knew what they were trying to describe.

[Smitters]

944 Man said:

Smitters said:

944 Man said:

Smitters said:

What is a 4D plate even. Is the fourth dimension time? Are they made by Quantum Leap Plates Ltd?

I used quotation marks to try to differentiate. It is an attempt to describe a might be legal plate with stick on letter atop the characters depicted on the plate, in the correct CW font. One step beyond "3D" plates, which is an attempt to describe legal font characters with lighter coloured aspects intended to make them appear less two dimensional.

Not having a dig at you. I've always wondered is all.

I didnt think that you were. I was acknowledging that their terms are well-intentioned but meaningless, unless you already knew what they were trying to describe.

Gotcha. I have now looked at some pictures of 4D numberplates. Apparently they're the next step up from 3D. Thus 4D. Ummmmm.

I can see how for show the ones with LED backing and the like might be popular (child of the 90's car scene here) but seriously? They look ridiculous.

And OT, as for pressed metal, I have them on all our cars. They're lighter, a damn sight easier to fit to curves of bumpers and don't shatter if they scrape the ground. What's not to like? Odd they would be made illegal, if that really is the case.

[Coatesy351]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

AJB88 said:

LaurasOtherHalf said:

The DVLA is unlikely to kill its cherished registration cash cow by doing that.

They could still do it, many other countries have the same.

I'm on about the supply of plates, 1 style online.

Numerous different lengths but just the 1 style.

They’d kill the sales of all the plates that need to be altered to spell whatever they’re flogging.

Wouldn't the DVLA be selling you the physical plates as well as the right to display? No more illegal plates as the DVLA controls who manufactures them.

[anonymous-user]

Howard- said:

I wonder this all the time. They're raised and not flat, so surely they're just 3D rather than 2D?

Anyway, the sooner all this nonsense is banned, the better. Seeing a blacked out Range Rover with BO55 CNT or whatever in the stupid "4D" lettering is just automotive cancer. We seem to be the only country in the world with a desire to make our registration plates look fking st. Why?

I don't mean to be argumentative, but why do you care so much? Its just a number plate, some people like them and some don't. I wouldn't let it get to you mate, I'm pretty sure they can't hurt you

[Howard-]

hucumber said:

Howard- said:

I wonder this all the time. They're raised and not flat, so surely they're just 3D rather than 2D?

Anyway, the sooner all this nonsense is banned, the better. Seeing a blacked out Range Rover with BO55 CNT or whatever in the stupid "4D" lettering is just automotive cancer. We seem to be the only country in the world with a desire to make our registration plates look fking st. Why?

I don't mean to be argumentative, but why do you care so much? Its just a number plate, some people like them and some don't. I wouldn't let it get to you mate, I'm pretty sure they can't hurt you

I'm not losing sleep over it, don't worry. It's a discussion forum, where we discuss and air our opinions on things.

[anonymous-user]

Howard- said:

I'm not losing sleep over it, don't worry. It's a discussion forum, where we discuss and air our opinions on things.

I get that, but some people seem to take such great offence at such things it made me wonder if there was a reason for it

[Dr_Rick]

Got some new plates made recently by Halfords, and was slightly confused when they gave me a set of metal (steel?) plates instead of the previous plastic ones.

When questioned, the guy behind the counter told me it was for eco reasons; no plastics any more. Not sure how the 'security' angle works now with the previous plates being tamper proof.