Run a car to end of its life
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Max_Torque said:
my bold. We've actually driven an EV for 5 years now, and nothing is more convient that having 99.9% of your charging done at home where you park the car. In 5 years, i can count the number of times i've sat waiting for a charge on the figures of one hand. The reason you need a fossil fuelled car to refuel quickly is only because you can't really do it at home (legally/safely)
After 5 years of actual first hand EV experience i can tell you the opposite becomes true, in that having to drive somewhere to refuel becomes not just tedious, but when you've done so, you have to part with about £75 each and every time which hurts ;-)
All fair points, and well made.After 5 years of actual first hand EV experience i can tell you the opposite becomes true, in that having to drive somewhere to refuel becomes not just tedious, but when you've done so, you have to part with about £75 each and every time which hurts ;-)
It does help, somewhat, to have another car that is capable of doing those longer journeys without having to hang about with the great unwashed.
EVs currently make a potentially great fit into a two car combo but aren't yet at the point of being brilliant single car scenarios for many.
With something like an i3 for all the jobs that it's good at doing and then something else that is good at doing all the jobs the i3 isn't, it can work well.
EVs currently make a potentially great fit into a two car combo but aren't yet at the point of being brilliant single car scenarios for many.
With something like an i3 for all the jobs that it's good at doing and then something else that is good at doing all the jobs the i3 isn't, it can work well.
DonkeyApple said:
It does help, somewhat, to have another car that is capable of doing those longer journeys without having to hang about with the great unwashed.
EVs currently make a potentially great fit into a two car combo but aren't yet at the point of being brilliant single car scenarios for many.
With something like an i3 for all the jobs that it's good at doing and then something else that is good at doing all the jobs the i3 isn't, it can work well.
Yes, functionally, an electric Fiat 500 would do fine for me as my city car. As it's all short hops, range doesn't matter.EVs currently make a potentially great fit into a two car combo but aren't yet at the point of being brilliant single car scenarios for many.
With something like an i3 for all the jobs that it's good at doing and then something else that is good at doing all the jobs the i3 isn't, it can work well.
(If you ignore the massive price, dubious life expectancy of the batteries and therefore the rather s
t overall eco credentials).Keeping an ICE estate for the long trips from London to Wales/Scotland/France/etc.
The trip to Scotland, for example, is just over 400 miles.
AC43 said:
Yes, functionally, an electric Fiat 500 would do fine for me as my city car. As it's all short hops, range doesn't matter.
(If you ignore the massive price, dubious life expectancy of the batteries and therefore the rather st overall eco credentials).
Keeping an ICE estate for the long trips from London to Wales/Scotland/France/etc.
The trip to Scotland, for example, is just over 400 miles.
Yup. That's exactly how many current EV owners are using them. No one wants to pay a premium for inconvenience but consumers will for convenience. (If you ignore the massive price, dubious life expectancy of the batteries and therefore the rather s
t overall eco credentials).Keeping an ICE estate for the long trips from London to Wales/Scotland/France/etc.
The trip to Scotland, for example, is just over 400 miles.
In the vein of running a car to end of life an EV should make that easier as bodies are pretty rust proof these days so a lot of scrapping happens because of drivetrain issues. With simpler drivetrains and more durable motors we should be able to make an EV last a ridiculous number of years.
The question is, let's say with running an EV for 30 years, when the batteries need replacing can you take advantage of the latest battery tech or will you for some reason be trapped having to replace like for like? Also, what's going to happen re all the outdated tech as it expires? There are so few EVs about that it seems logical to assume that for these early cars there will be no viable market for replacement components down the line?
Yup I can bet your bottom dollar that manufacturers will aim to use the tech to push obsolescence but will it be possible to work around that?
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