RE: Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo launched

[anonymous-user]

epom said:

Electrically folding mirrors an option, miserable.

I've never had them... can't say I've ever missed them or would ever spec them. I shudder to think what they cost to replace when some tit clips one with his wing mirror.

[Jader1973]

fblm said:

epom said:

Electrically folding mirrors an option, miserable.

I've never had them... can't say I've ever missed them or would ever spec them. I shudder to think what they cost to replace when some tit clips one with his wing mirror.

That isn't the point.

The point is that a 30k Ford / Vauxhall / Peugeot will have them as standard equipment, along with a stload of the other stuff Porsche are charging extra for.

I've never configured a Porsche before but quite like the look of this so thought I'd have a play. I was astonished that these things are an extra on a car that costs so much to begin with.

[Digga]

fblm said:

epom said:

Electrically folding mirrors an option, miserable.

I've never had them... can't say I've ever missed them or would ever spec them. I shudder to think what they cost to replace when some tit clips one with his wing mirror.

A lot of cars have DAB aerial in one or other mirror. Mirrors on modern cars are a fortune. About ten years back, a big fallow deer buck leapt a hedge into the road in front of my dad’s Jag as he was driving home one evening. They both had time to reach, my dad braked and swerved and the buck made to leap back from where he’d come, but literally caught the near side mirror with his antler; was about £600 fitted and painted by our local, friendly body shop. He said he’d just had to pay £750 for a mirror on a BMW X5.

[sidesauce]

liamthedude said:

It's crazy how much better looking 90% of cars are in estate form rather than saloon!

And yet, no-one buys estates, especially in comparison to SUVs. So... talk is cheap.

[DonkeyApple]

sidesauce said:

liamthedude said:

It's crazy how much better looking 90% of cars are in estate form rather than saloon!

And yet, no-one buys estates, especially in comparison to SUVs. So... talk is cheap.

It's difficult to contrast estates to SUVs, not just because of the fashion and wealth factors, ie SUVs are more on trend and because excess wealth fuels excess size but if you're buying a vehicle for stowage then the SUV offers more practicality and benefits unless one is a stringback specialist who needs to get to Tesco's at ten tenths every time.

But I also personally feel that the estate version nearly always looks better than the hatch/saloon. The Allegro factor.

I don't get why anyone would buy a saloon shape over its estate version given that it's generally more practical as well as better looking. Plus, from a snobbery perspective the saloon shape is always going to be synonymous with the travelling salesman etc.

I think Porsche estates are now looking really good. I think the interiors are also much more pleasant than other fast estates.

While the Cayenne is one of the most staggeringly competent cross country people carriers, this car is so much better looking that it overcomes any loss of practicality.

It's impressive for a product that has its visual roots in something genuinely so fugly.

[anonymous-user]

Jader1973 said:

That isn't the point.

The point is that a 30k Ford / Vauxhall / Peugeot will have them as standard equipment, along with a stload of the other stuff Porsche are charging extra for.

I've never configured a Porsche before but quite like the look of this so thought I'd have a play. I was astonished that these things are an extra on a car that costs so much to begin with.

Just had the same conversation on another thread...So buy a Peugeot then. Seriously though just think of a Porsche as costing 20k more than it does but you can get yourself a massive discount by unspeccing all the junk you don't want. A LSD (PTV+) only costs a grand or you could spec a HUD or passenger display or some other nonsense... take yer pick.

[SJMW]

Looks nice, apart from where the rear edge of the fron wing meets the door - looks broken or kit car-like

[Robbo66]

Pavement level, rear 3/4 shot being pushed out as,like the 996RS, the only one that makes it look reasonable.

Then you get to the front and realise the backside you’ve been looking at belongs to Caitlyn Jenner, with a similar amount of plastic tat added.

Looks better than the Taycan though, but then so does an Allegro.

[SWoll]

Robbo66 said:

Pavement level, rear 3/4 shot being pushed out as,like the 996RS, the only one that makes it look reasonable.

Then you get to the front and realise the backside you’ve been looking at belongs to Caitlyn Jenner, with a similar amount of plastic tat added.

Looks better than the Taycan though, but then so does an Allegro.

Each to their own of course but personally prefer it from every angle in comparison to the Panamera/Cayenne etc.

[Digga]

Build code PMD2T422

A lot more conservative/frugal than a few on here, but I really like it.



Also, immediately recognised the view. Pic taken by Mrs Digga, a long time back - as those who know me will know, I'm carrying a bit less timber these days:

[anonymous-user]

Where is it?

[MDL111]

fblm said:

Jader1973 said:

That isn't the point.

The point is that a 30k Ford / Vauxhall / Peugeot will have them as standard equipment, along with a stload of the other stuff Porsche are charging extra for.

I've never configured a Porsche before but quite like the look of this so thought I'd have a play. I was astonished that these things are an extra on a car that costs so much to begin with.

Just had the same conversation on another thread...So buy a Peugeot then. Seriously though just think of a Porsche as costing 20k more than it does but you can get yourself a massive discount by unspeccing all the junk you don't want. A LSD (PTV+) only costs a grand or you could spec a HUD or passenger display or some other nonsense... take yer pick.

Also, never look at a Ferrari or McLaren options list - some of the paint options or carbon fiber packs cost more than the aforementioned Ford/Vauxhall. Porsche is actually quite reasonable in terms of options pricing (and as said don’t tick the boxes, I wouldn’t - most of them don’t make the car any better and just make it more expensive - you usually get a great car out of the box)

[Digga]

fblm said:

Where is it?

Marine Drive, Scarborough.

Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0704119,18.368167...

[anonymous-user]

Digga said:

fblm said:

Where is it?

Marine Drive, Scarborough.

Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0704119,18.368167...

I thought it was somewhere like South Africa or Brazil!

[anonymous-user]

MDL111 said:

Also, never look at a Ferrari or McLaren options list - some of the paint options or carbon fiber packs cost more than the aforementioned Ford/Vauxhall. Porsche is actually quite reasonable in terms of options pricing (and as said don’t tick the boxes, I wouldn’t - most of them don’t make the car any better and just make it more expensive - you usually get a great car out of the box)

Quite. Can't say I've ever driven a gt3 and wished it had a hud , folding mirrors, contrast stitching, carbon door sills etc... each to their own but complaining about something you don't have to buy is nuts.

[Digga]

fblm said:

Digga said:

fblm said:

Where is it?

Marine Drive, Scarborough.

Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0704119,18.368167...

I thought it was somewhere like South Africa or Brazil!

Loads of car launches - pictures and videos - get shot there.