RE: Land Rover 110 V8 Station Wagon | The Brave Pill
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Back in the early 2000’s when I was a cop I worked at a little cop shop that was a bungalow
As we were semi-rural someone saw fit to give us a 110 V8
I remember ‘chasing’ a disqualified driver through the village in which we were based until he stopped at a junction and I ran into the back of him, giving him what my shift partner called a ‘playful buff’
Laddo legged-it from his car pursued by my mate, leaving me to inspect the result of the coming together; the front bumper of our Landie was bent but the rear of his car was stoved in.
We took it off-road and through all manner of environments and the Landie took it all in its stride
As for driving the thing, it was horrible, and as I used to say (and you’ll have to use your minds eye to picture this), it sounded like Arnie gargling razor blades, but went like Julian Clarey sipping a cocktail
I’m sure tou get my drift.
As we were semi-rural someone saw fit to give us a 110 V8
I remember ‘chasing’ a disqualified driver through the village in which we were based until he stopped at a junction and I ran into the back of him, giving him what my shift partner called a ‘playful buff’
Laddo legged-it from his car pursued by my mate, leaving me to inspect the result of the coming together; the front bumper of our Landie was bent but the rear of his car was stoved in.
We took it off-road and through all manner of environments and the Landie took it all in its stride
As for driving the thing, it was horrible, and as I used to say (and you’ll have to use your minds eye to picture this), it sounded like Arnie gargling razor blades, but went like Julian Clarey sipping a cocktail
I’m sure tou get my drift.
ballans said:
Not really brave as everything is a known quantity and replaceable.
Safe to assume it will need a chassis, bulkhead and most other steel bits replaced. Consumables on top and you’ve got to about £10k in parts.
Makes the asking price look a bit silly although it seems they are aiming for the US market where they go for silly money.
Not brave as you can buy parts ?Safe to assume it will need a chassis, bulkhead and most other steel bits replaced. Consumables on top and you’ve got to about £10k in parts.
Makes the asking price look a bit silly although it seems they are aiming for the US market where they go for silly money.
12 grand on something to spend thousands on parts and countless hours of your own time, or even more money getting someone else to do it.
Sounds like a great opportunity...
It has a value but surely a fully working one isnt enough to make this worth spending that much on.
CAPP0 said:
Lester H said:
RazerSauber said:
Over 12 grand for a rotten, knackered Landy. Alright it's a 110 but that appears to be the only desirable feature.
I don't get the fascination with these. From what I read, they're no good to drive, not particularly reliable, uncomfortable, uneconomical and slow. What on earth would possess someone to buy one? Surely the Discovery is the comfier, more plush version of a Defender which would seem to suit people much more?
Isn’t the early Discovery actually a lees plush version of a Range Rover?I don't get the fascination with these. From what I read, they're no good to drive, not particularly reliable, uncomfortable, uneconomical and slow. What on earth would possess someone to buy one? Surely the Discovery is the comfier, more plush version of a Defender which would seem to suit people much more?
Maldini35 said:
I love them and will never sell mine but I cannot understand the crazy prices they now command.
As others have commented, this will cost another £5- 10k to make it right.
They make most sense as low cost, lo-fi, knockabout fun.
Yes but spend that money and it will run for another 30 years - that’s small change compared with running a more modern vehicle...As others have commented, this will cost another £5- 10k to make it right.
They make most sense as low cost, lo-fi, knockabout fun.
People who say these are expensive have obviously never looked at parts prices.
A new bumper = £40
New side steps = £180 for 2
New galvanised chassis = £3k
Compared to any modern car its pennies on the pound and they last forever, are tough as anything, and are very capable working trucks with a lot of character.
When I had someone clip the front of my 997 in a car park it was a 5k insurance claim. On the other hand a lorry pulling into the front of my defender in a car park was a slight scratch on the £40 bumper.
A new bumper = £40
New side steps = £180 for 2
New galvanised chassis = £3k
Compared to any modern car its pennies on the pound and they last forever, are tough as anything, and are very capable working trucks with a lot of character.
When I had someone clip the front of my 997 in a car park it was a 5k insurance claim. On the other hand a lorry pulling into the front of my defender in a car park was a slight scratch on the £40 bumper.
kbf1981 said:
People who say these are expensive have obviously never looked at parts prices.
A new bumper = £40
New side steps = £180 for 2
New galvanised chassis = £3k
Compared to any modern car its pennies on the pound and they last forever, are tough as anything, and are very capable working trucks with a lot of character.
When I had someone clip the front of my 997 in a car park it was a 5k insurance claim. On the other hand a lorry pulling into the front of my defender in a car park was a slight scratch on the £40 bumper.
The difference being a half decent product doesn't need a 'new galvanised chassis' A new bumper = £40
New side steps = £180 for 2
New galvanised chassis = £3k
Compared to any modern car its pennies on the pound and they last forever, are tough as anything, and are very capable working trucks with a lot of character.
When I had someone clip the front of my 997 in a car park it was a 5k insurance claim. On the other hand a lorry pulling into the front of my defender in a car park was a slight scratch on the £40 bumper.
And £3K, whilst promising for a few bits of pig iron, doesn't include the installation, the grief from being off the road and everything else that breaks when you rebuild, what is basically a farm vehicle.
ddom said:
kbf1981 said:
People who say these are expensive have obviously never looked at parts prices.
A new bumper = £40
New side steps = £180 for 2
New galvanised chassis = £3k
Compared to any modern car its pennies on the pound and they last forever, are tough as anything, and are very capable working trucks with a lot of character.
When I had someone clip the front of my 997 in a car park it was a 5k insurance claim. On the other hand a lorry pulling into the front of my defender in a car park was a slight scratch on the £40 bumper.
The difference being a half decent product doesn't need a 'new galvanised chassis' A new bumper = £40
New side steps = £180 for 2
New galvanised chassis = £3k
Compared to any modern car its pennies on the pound and they last forever, are tough as anything, and are very capable working trucks with a lot of character.
When I had someone clip the front of my 997 in a car park it was a 5k insurance claim. On the other hand a lorry pulling into the front of my defender in a car park was a slight scratch on the £40 bumper.
And £3K, whilst promising for a few bits of pig iron, doesn't include the installation, the grief from being off the road and everything else that breaks when you rebuild, what is basically a farm vehicle.
"Lasting forever" and replacing most of it are mutually exclusive, even if the base vehicle was free this would be a big and expensive project by the looks of it.
It needs to be someone who doesn't mind putting loads of time and money in that they wont get back, might be about the journey rather than the destination to a point but it just seems a rather tired old heap for 12/13 grand, its not seen an MOT station in 14 years, I would be surprised if much is any good.
Bet Alton Towers will be digging the old Landrovers out of their rides to flog and finance the park for a year !
Maldini35 said:
I love them and will never sell mine but I cannot understand the crazy prices they now command.
As others have commented, this will cost another £5- 10k to make it right.
They make most sense as low cost, lo-fi, knockabout fun.
Agree great tool for use off-road, bought mine for 2k 6 years ago as was cheaper than a tractor and more versatile for my needs, basic maintenance only and it's never let me down. But they rust.....As others have commented, this will cost another £5- 10k to make it right.
They make most sense as low cost, lo-fi, knockabout fun.
Twinair said:
A quick vacuum on the inside, foamy Meguires wash on the outside, a spin over to ‘City-MOT’s’ - the one behind every retail park ‘back access road - by the city tip’ with the 2 rottweilers on chains out the front, splash of Auto-glym tyre shine & onto the pitch by 3:30 pm the same day at £24999 - luvly jubbly!
Also at virtually nil expense, top up all levels, spray grease all hinges, wipe engine with WD40 clean windows with screewash fluid, inflate tyres a bit hard. On the lot by 3.45. Now it’s £25125. Cynical? ‘Many a true word...’Edited by Lester H on Saturday 6th March 21:42
kbf1981 said:
People who say these are expensive have obviously never looked at parts prices.
A new bumper = £40
New side steps = £180 for 2
New galvanised chassis = £3k
Compared to any modern car its pennies on the pound and they last forever, are tough as anything, and are very capable working trucks with a lot of character.
When I had someone clip the front of my 997 in a car park it was a 5k insurance claim. On the other hand a lorry pulling into the front of my defender in a car park was a slight scratch on the £40 bumper.
I love them and understand the appeal but prices are crazy.A new bumper = £40
New side steps = £180 for 2
New galvanised chassis = £3k
Compared to any modern car its pennies on the pound and they last forever, are tough as anything, and are very capable working trucks with a lot of character.
When I had someone clip the front of my 997 in a car park it was a 5k insurance claim. On the other hand a lorry pulling into the front of my defender in a car park was a slight scratch on the £40 bumper.
You can add a bulkhead to your list which is another grand.
Axles, diffs, suspension spring, all seals, transfer box, maybe gearbox and floors will probably need some attention.
Then there’s a repaint.
It’s all doable and cheaper than fixing a Porsche but they can need a lot of work.
The reason they last is most are Triggers Brooms.
I do love them but anybody buying one needs to go in with their eyes open.
I scrapped one about 15 years ago - an early 110 V8 station wagon with the main silencers removed from the exhaust.
It was an unreliable heap of crap but was strangely enjoyable to burble about in. I once drove from Aberdeen to Glasgow pretty much flat out (~95 mph) to catch a flight and it drained the entire 18 gallon tank. It's only 150 miles so it worked out to be about 8 mpg.
The noise without much in the way of silencers was spectacular though and gear changes resulted in flames from each of the twin exhausts if you were gunning it.
It was replaced by a 4.2TD 80 series land cruiser that was much faster, more comfortable, never broke down, better off road and used a third of the fuel.
It was an unreliable heap of crap but was strangely enjoyable to burble about in. I once drove from Aberdeen to Glasgow pretty much flat out (~95 mph) to catch a flight and it drained the entire 18 gallon tank. It's only 150 miles so it worked out to be about 8 mpg.
The noise without much in the way of silencers was spectacular though and gear changes resulted in flames from each of the twin exhausts if you were gunning it.
It was replaced by a 4.2TD 80 series land cruiser that was much faster, more comfortable, never broke down, better off road and used a third of the fuel.
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