RE: Land Rover 110 V8 Station Wagon | The Brave Pill
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Back in 2015 I sold my immaculate 89 3.5 efi to buy a 90 TD5 hardtop which then went through a ‘titivation process’ to sort leaks, dinitrol, and make it look like new. Biggest difference was fitting heated Puma ‘premium’ seats which made it very comfy, and Alive intercooler. It was quite poky and could be hustled along with pace. Great fun. They’re just a great big mecanno set and relatively easy to self-spanner. I got it perfect then sold it because I am stupid. 
I learnt to fly at TG Aviation at Manston in 1993, the Landrover wasnt there then. There was no need for any ferring around as the school aircraft were right outside the door of the clubhouse, so I expect the seller is just making up a romantic story......
There was quite a bit of aircraft maintenance going on in the hanger so I suspect that this Landover was being used to pull the aircraft in and out.
However as a side note TG (Ted Girdler) who was lovely chap, ex RAF, ex Lightning pilot, ex Red Arrows, died in plane crash around 2000 when his single seater L29 Delfin jet hit the sea during an aerobatic display at the Eastbourne Airshow.
Ted actually signed me off on my solo after a brief test flight., remember that like it was yesterday.
There was quite a bit of aircraft maintenance going on in the hanger so I suspect that this Landover was being used to pull the aircraft in and out.
However as a side note TG (Ted Girdler) who was lovely chap, ex RAF, ex Lightning pilot, ex Red Arrows, died in plane crash around 2000 when his single seater L29 Delfin jet hit the sea during an aerobatic display at the Eastbourne Airshow.
Ted actually signed me off on my solo after a brief test flight., remember that like it was yesterday.
Certain TV shows don’t help with the ridiculous mark-ups on classics/older cars these days. Some rotten moss-covered old heap dragged off someone’s drive is not a ‘barn find’ no matter how many episodes of Gas Monkey you watch to convince yourself. Get yourself some of that!! Wooo! Etc
A ratty F body Camaro used to be £1500 at a push, now people are slapping them on eBay for 8k. Delusional.
A ratty F body Camaro used to be £1500 at a push, now people are slapping them on eBay for 8k. Delusional.
The Wookie said:
camel_landy said:
£12k... No thanks.
...but I'm guessing they're trying to tap the US market for cars over 25yrs old.
M
This. As long as it’s not too far gone to be registered in the US it’s a Petrol V8. Someone will take it over, register it, restore/restomod it and sell it for $100k...but I'm guessing they're trying to tap the US market for cars over 25yrs old.
M
While I can absolutely see why old Land Rovers aren't everyone's cup of tea, they certainly were mine and I had nothing else for nearly 10 years and have only been without a Landy of some sort for the past three.
My last one was a 1990 Ninety CSW 2.5TD which was in very nice condition when I bought it in 2005 for £2000 and was in generally similar nick to this one when I sold it eleven years later for £3700 - solid but scruffy chassis with a few patches on the outriggers and a new rear crossmember, rust appearing in the upper bulkhead, scabby body cappings with large areas of paint missing, rusty door frames, a tired and noisy but fully functional LT77 gearbox, a very presentable interior but (like this one) the leather wrapping on the steering wheel had peeled away etc. etc. Despite significantly deteriorating in condition over a decade-and-a-bit it was worth nearly double what I paid for it just because the overall market trend for Land Rovers had lifted it up.
Earlier this year I googled the number plate out of curiosity to see if it was still around and it turned out that it was upstate New York, having been exported, given a respray (in which it lost its oh-so-80s go-faster stripes and 'TURBO' stickers), had new cappings and doors put on it and was now for sale for $25,000. And it still had the black gaffer tape I put on the steering wheel to replace the peeling leather, the slightly sagging headlining, the rust-flecked Rostyle wheels, the cracked plastic trim on the lip of the parcel shelf and so on.
It's just what they're worth now, especially in America. It jars with me, since I can remember when you could buy roadworthy Series IIIs for £500 and a n/a diesel Ninety Hard Top in farm-fresh condition for £1000. But those days are over.
It’s difficult to say whether this is worth it or not, it depends really on the condition and what needs doing to bring it up to scratch.
Whilst parts are cheapish (depends if you want OEM standards or not) it can get very expensive very quickly especially if you are paying someone to do the work. I just had a chassis and a general refurb done on my 110 td5 and it cost me more than the asking price of this V8.
A decent CSW V8 is in the 20-30k range now depending on whether it’s exportable. Unfortunately defenders have become very expensive, reminds me of my 3.2 carrera that I sold in 2006 for 10k!
As a long time defender owner, I totally "get" the appeal, but modern prices for these pieces of rotten junk are just incredible.
I wish I had just kept mine in the back garden for the past 10 years and instead of selling it for £4k, I could have basically retired!
Loved that old girl, even if it was a stupid stabby redhead.
I wish I had just kept mine in the back garden for the past 10 years and instead of selling it for £4k, I could have basically retired!
Loved that old girl, even if it was a stupid stabby redhead.
Bought my 110 V8 on Ebay for £1,600 about 5 years - Picked it up near Birmingham and got off to a bad start when I stopped in a traffic jam on the M42 to find there were absolutely no electrics whatsoever. RAC home and the garage called me asking whether I'd seized the engine as there was no water in the system. Luckily the dodgy alternator gave out seconds before the engine did...
Fortuitously bulkhead and chassis look good and a new alternator, radiator and waterpump later, I've had no problems at all. I've had a stainless steel exhaust fitted and it sounds fabulous. Objectively the TDi is better/as good as on every measure, but that noise!
Daughter now learning to drive in - 2 major positives:
1) if she can drive that, she can drive anything
2) no one is going to mess with her.
WRT to US LandRovers - a friend's son in Virginia had a choice between 2: one with shot mechanics and one with a shot chassis - both were $18k. They were both sold within a couple days. Luckily he got the one with the shot mechanics (steering was jammed and turbo gone) and has managed to persuade the local LR shop to allow him to work on the car at weekends in their garage (he is an impecunious student) - his enthusiasm for all thing LR won them over.
Fortuitously bulkhead and chassis look good and a new alternator, radiator and waterpump later, I've had no problems at all. I've had a stainless steel exhaust fitted and it sounds fabulous. Objectively the TDi is better/as good as on every measure, but that noise!
Daughter now learning to drive in - 2 major positives:
1) if she can drive that, she can drive anything
2) no one is going to mess with her.
WRT to US LandRovers - a friend's son in Virginia had a choice between 2: one with shot mechanics and one with a shot chassis - both were $18k. They were both sold within a couple days. Luckily he got the one with the shot mechanics (steering was jammed and turbo gone) and has managed to persuade the local LR shop to allow him to work on the car at weekends in their garage (he is an impecunious student) - his enthusiasm for all thing LR won them over.
jon-yprpe said:
Back in 2015 I sold my immaculate 89 3.5 efi to buy a 90 TD5 hardtop which then went through a ‘titivation process’ to sort leaks, dinitrol, and make it look like new. Biggest difference was fitting heated Puma ‘premium’ seats which made it very comfy, and Alive intercooler. It was quite poky and could be hustled along with pace. Great fun. They’re just a great big mecanno set and relatively easy to self-spanner. I got it perfect then sold it because I am stupid.
You've described my ownership experience for the last 5 cars I've owned.
Why do we do it?
Been there, done that, got the oily T-shirt. Whilst very useful and quite good fun, especially off road, I really cannot see why folk would spend this kind of money on one of these.
When I owned them, there were a fair few green lanes I could drive around the Peak District and I was part of a great group who regularly had off road days. I could sort of justify owning my Landrovers. Once they started closing the lanes down, off road trips became more rare and I quickly started questioning the need for a Landrover.
Having said that, I sometimes wish I'd kept the 88" Pickup as a classic car that earned it's keep.
88" two and a quarter petrol.
90 2.5 TD
109" 2.6 Six pot.
When I owned them, there were a fair few green lanes I could drive around the Peak District and I was part of a great group who regularly had off road days. I could sort of justify owning my Landrovers. Once they started closing the lanes down, off road trips became more rare and I quickly started questioning the need for a Landrover.
Having said that, I sometimes wish I'd kept the 88" Pickup as a classic car that earned it's keep.
88" two and a quarter petrol.
90 2.5 TD
109" 2.6 Six pot.
Love it!
I reckon it’s a perfect Wheeler Deakers candidate. Mike gets the seller to “ ‘old aht yer ‘aaaaaaand” for £12,500 then into the workshop for a new chassis, complete interior re-trim and engine rebuild.
He then advertises it for £50k, before accepting an offer of £13,250. Classic episode in the making.
I reckon it’s a perfect Wheeler Deakers candidate. Mike gets the seller to “ ‘old aht yer ‘aaaaaaand” for £12,500 then into the workshop for a new chassis, complete interior re-trim and engine rebuild.
He then advertises it for £50k, before accepting an offer of £13,250. Classic episode in the making.
Back in 2014, when I was turning 18, the question came up of an 18th Birthday Present.
Somehow, the idea stuck that myself, and my parents, would go halfers on a classic land rover for me as a first car, having been fascinated with them since I was a wee lad.
When on the hunt for said landy, a predecessor of todays pill came up not far away, a Series 3 'Stage 1' V8, and a full Safari Station Wagon at that - rocking horse droppings now I should think.
It was £2200.
We decided not to even go and look as it was a bit too V8'ey for a first car and insurance, so I ended up with a £1600 early Series 3 which I kept for quite a few years, and is the only car I've ever made a profit on, even including maintenance.
The Porsche's that followed it do not have that same accolade!
It was a great car to cut my mechanical teeth on, but that Stage 1 V8 has stayed with me as the one that truly got away. God knows what it would be worth now, and how much 997 it could buy!
Somehow, the idea stuck that myself, and my parents, would go halfers on a classic land rover for me as a first car, having been fascinated with them since I was a wee lad.
When on the hunt for said landy, a predecessor of todays pill came up not far away, a Series 3 'Stage 1' V8, and a full Safari Station Wagon at that - rocking horse droppings now I should think.
It was £2200.
We decided not to even go and look as it was a bit too V8'ey for a first car and insurance, so I ended up with a £1600 early Series 3 which I kept for quite a few years, and is the only car I've ever made a profit on, even including maintenance.
The Porsche's that followed it do not have that same accolade!
It was a great car to cut my mechanical teeth on, but that Stage 1 V8 has stayed with me as the one that truly got away. God knows what it would be worth now, and how much 997 it could buy!
EarlOfHazard said:
....Back in about 2016-2017 there was l lovely 1986 Land Rover 90 CSW with factory 3.5 v8. It was about £7k
Last year I saw one for £25k....
Quietly hoping values are going up. The last 'classic' I bought was a 964, which I sold for £14.5k a few months before values shot up...... Last year I saw one for £25k....
Mine's an '88 90 V8 CSW which has just passed it's MoT so that must mean it's gone up £5k in value
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