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MK1RS Bruce said:
There used to be one on display at the Grampian Transport museum in Alford in Scotland, it was there 18/8/19 but obviously I haven't been there for a while.
Beat me to it, I'm in Alford, but thanks to covid we never set foot in the museum last year, so not sure if it'll be there this season or not. I'm an ex employee there so I could make enquiries.AlexIT said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Moley RUFC said:
Exactly this... 99.99% of us will never get to own a Ferrari F40
As a maths pedant, aren't you saying there that 1 in 10k of us will. With 35m drivers in the UK that's 3500 of us who will own an F40. With only 1300 or so ever made, and only a handful of those being in the UK, I think that's a tad optimistic I asked my brother who runs a prestige car service (fancy pants cars for weddings / air port transfers / some sports cars for hire) and he said the insurance is a bit high so they never bought one to hire out. However, there are plenty of places that hire out and if he just wants to see it then you could ask them nicely. A car like that is meant to be experienced though so what would be better than finding one on your drive or looking outside and seeing it there?! So if you cannot find an experience day or don’t want to... and the car meet where the Rari’s go is too far... consider contacting a hire place to see if they will let you view their stock or hire it.
Here is an example: http://www.ferraricarhire.co.uk/car/Ferrari-F40-Hi...
It’s a lovely idea though. My boyfriends dream was to drive the Mercedes GT so I booked Brooklands hotel and the driving experience for his birthday. Can’t do that now with lockdown and all...
Here is an example: http://www.ferraricarhire.co.uk/car/Ferrari-F40-Hi...
It’s a lovely idea though. My boyfriends dream was to drive the Mercedes GT so I booked Brooklands hotel and the driving experience for his birthday. Can’t do that now with lockdown and all...
I've been into the Ferrari showroom with my small boys, and politely explained it was one of theirs birthday (it was). They were happy for them to sit in any of the cars that were unlocked. I made sure I lifted their feet over the sills and so on, after pointing out that each car was worth more than our house.
The boys were made up, and the showroom staff just let us get on with it.
We did the same for the other boy, but to Porsche, and they were just as pleasant, and even gave each boy a hard-back brochure too.
The boys were made up, and the showroom staff just let us get on with it.
We did the same for the other boy, but to Porsche, and they were just as pleasant, and even gave each boy a hard-back brochure too.
You could try Stewart Rodden in Broxburn
http://www.stewartrodenmotors.co.uk/
I'm sure he has one and an F50 also
http://www.stewartrodenmotors.co.uk/
I'm sure he has one and an F50 also
I have driven an F40 on 3 occasions, a late model but still pre-cat car a customer owns and has since new in 1991. The current values reflect the rarity and 'unhinged' nature of the car but in the cold light of day, they are a terrible waste of a million quid, simple as that. Unless you feel sure they will continue to go up in value as an investment. Not to drive.
Where to begin? Fit and finish you'd be disappointed with on a kit car. (Which it really felt like it was to be frank, a kit car). You could actually see daylight from inside, between 2 panels in one area.
The engine was fairly powerful but incredibly laggy, with a massive wait for power unless you drove it like a racing car all the time and kept it in low gears ready to go. The wide ratio 5 speed gearbox enhanced that feeling of lag as it was easy to drop out of the boosted areas of shove, unless, as i said you were driving it full on. The gearbox itself felt agricultural, a real surprise even on a 1990 sports car. The clutch was very heavy. Even the noise was very average. Reliability over the years has been pretty awful from what i hear and read and, all things considered, my advice is FORGET paying a million quid for one.
Instead, get any of these fabulous, fabulous cars.
Ferrari 458 or 458 Speciale. THE pinnacle of lightweight V8 engines with naturally aspiration. Lamborghini Aventador. Immense V12 with a sound to die for. At lower budgets an Audi R8 5.2 V10 with over 600 bhp, again non-charged and delightful.
The F40 is a poorly built kit car with a pretty rubbish engine and gearbox.
If a kit car will do get an Ultima 720 with it's 720 bhp (478 bhp for the F40) and the weight of a VW Polo.
Where to begin? Fit and finish you'd be disappointed with on a kit car. (Which it really felt like it was to be frank, a kit car). You could actually see daylight from inside, between 2 panels in one area.
The engine was fairly powerful but incredibly laggy, with a massive wait for power unless you drove it like a racing car all the time and kept it in low gears ready to go. The wide ratio 5 speed gearbox enhanced that feeling of lag as it was easy to drop out of the boosted areas of shove, unless, as i said you were driving it full on. The gearbox itself felt agricultural, a real surprise even on a 1990 sports car. The clutch was very heavy. Even the noise was very average. Reliability over the years has been pretty awful from what i hear and read and, all things considered, my advice is FORGET paying a million quid for one.
Instead, get any of these fabulous, fabulous cars.
Ferrari 458 or 458 Speciale. THE pinnacle of lightweight V8 engines with naturally aspiration. Lamborghini Aventador. Immense V12 with a sound to die for. At lower budgets an Audi R8 5.2 V10 with over 600 bhp, again non-charged and delightful.
The F40 is a poorly built kit car with a pretty rubbish engine and gearbox.
If a kit car will do get an Ultima 720 with it's 720 bhp (478 bhp for the F40) and the weight of a VW Polo.
Edited by BroadsRS6 on Friday 12th March 14:54
Silverstone classic ive seen plenty - especially one year where they had loads doing a procession (it was 30-60 F40’s all lined up static then a slow parade lap). It was a glorious summers day too.
We camped over so music in the evening and plenty of burgers on BBQ and plenty of beers. Great fun.
We camped over so music in the evening and plenty of burgers on BBQ and plenty of beers. Great fun.
Always thought that the guys that raced them in UK club racing through the 90s were particularly brave with their cash. Certainly looks that way given the current value.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeUcEzr1Tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeUcEzr1Tg
Super_G said:
I asked my brother who runs a prestige car service (fancy pants cars for weddings / air port transfers / some sports cars for hire) and he said the insurance is a bit high so they never bought one to hire out. However, there are plenty of places that hire out and if he just wants to see it then you could ask them nicely. A car like that is meant to be experienced though so what would be better than finding one on your drive or looking outside and seeing it there?! So if you cannot find an experience day or don’t want to... and the car meet where the Rari’s go is too far... consider contacting a hire place to see if they will let you view their stock or hire it.
Here is an example: http://www.ferraricarhire.co.uk/car/Ferrari-F40-Hi...
It’s a lovely idea though. My boyfriends dream was to drive the Mercedes GT so I booked Brooklands hotel and the driving experience for his birthday. Can’t do that now with lockdown and all...
Do those people actually have one to hire out? Maybe I'm just thrown off by the fact that their website is bloody awful.Here is an example: http://www.ferraricarhire.co.uk/car/Ferrari-F40-Hi...
It’s a lovely idea though. My boyfriends dream was to drive the Mercedes GT so I booked Brooklands hotel and the driving experience for his birthday. Can’t do that now with lockdown and all...
Who in their right mind would give insurance on a rental F40?
BroadsRS6 said:
I have driven an F40 on 3 occasions, a late model but still pre-cat car a customer owns and has since new in 1991. The current values reflect the rarity and 'unhinged' nature of the car but in the cold light of day, they are a terrible waste of a million quid, simple as that. Unless you feel sure they will continue to go up in value as an investment. Not to drive.
Where to begin? Fit and finish you'd be disappointed with on a kit car. (Which it really felt like it was to be frank, a kit car). You could actually see daylight from inside, between 2 panels in one area.
The engine was fairly powerful but incredibly laggy, with a massive wait for power unless you drove it like a racing car all the time and kept it in low gears ready to go. The wide ratio 5 speed gearbox enhanced that feeling of lag as it was easy to drop out of the boosted areas of shove, unless, as i said you were driving it full on. The gearbox itself felt agricultural, a real surprise even on a 1990 sports car. The clutch was very heavy. Even the noise was very average. Reliability over the years has been pretty awful from what i hear and read and, all things considered, my advice is FORGET paying a million quid for one.
Instead, get any of these fabulous, fabulous cars.
Ferrari 458 or 458 Speciale. THE pinnacle of lightweight V8 engines with naturally aspiration. Lamborghini Aventador. Immense V12 with a sound to die for. At lower budgets an Audi R8 5.2 V10 with over 600 bhp, again non-charged and delightful.
The F40 is a poorly built kit car with a pretty rubbish engine and gearbox.
If a kit car will do get an Ultima 720 with it's 720 bhp (478 bhp for the F40) and the weight of a VW Polo.
Good for you that you’ve driven one, that is a dream that almost none of us will fulfil. I can’t help but feel that you seem to be entirely missing the point. You cannot objectively compare an F40 to an Aventador or an R8. It’s like criticising the Sistine Chapel for not having triple glazing. Where to begin? Fit and finish you'd be disappointed with on a kit car. (Which it really felt like it was to be frank, a kit car). You could actually see daylight from inside, between 2 panels in one area.
The engine was fairly powerful but incredibly laggy, with a massive wait for power unless you drove it like a racing car all the time and kept it in low gears ready to go. The wide ratio 5 speed gearbox enhanced that feeling of lag as it was easy to drop out of the boosted areas of shove, unless, as i said you were driving it full on. The gearbox itself felt agricultural, a real surprise even on a 1990 sports car. The clutch was very heavy. Even the noise was very average. Reliability over the years has been pretty awful from what i hear and read and, all things considered, my advice is FORGET paying a million quid for one.
Instead, get any of these fabulous, fabulous cars.
Ferrari 458 or 458 Speciale. THE pinnacle of lightweight V8 engines with naturally aspiration. Lamborghini Aventador. Immense V12 with a sound to die for. At lower budgets an Audi R8 5.2 V10 with over 600 bhp, again non-charged and delightful.
The F40 is a poorly built kit car with a pretty rubbish engine and gearbox.
If a kit car will do get an Ultima 720 with it's 720 bhp (478 bhp for the F40) and the weight of a VW Polo.
Edited by BroadsRS6 on Friday 12th March 14:54
Nobody cares if the engine suffers with lag. Nobody cares that the interior welds are visible, or that the weave is visible through the paint. The flaws make it all the more desirable.
BroadsRS6 said:
I have driven an F40 on 3 occasions, a late model but still pre-cat car a customer owns and has since new in 1991. The current values reflect the rarity and 'unhinged' nature of the car but in the cold light of day, they are a terrible waste of a million quid, simple as that. Unless you feel sure they will continue to go up in value as an investment. Not to drive.
Where to begin? Fit and finish you'd be disappointed with on a kit car. (Which it really felt like it was to be frank, a kit car). You could actually see daylight from inside, between 2 panels in one area.
The engine was fairly powerful but incredibly laggy, with a massive wait for power unless you drove it like a racing car all the time and kept it in low gears ready to go. The wide ratio 5 speed gearbox enhanced that feeling of lag as it was easy to drop out of the boosted areas of shove, unless, as i said you were driving it full on. The gearbox itself felt agricultural, a real surprise even on a 1990 sports car. The clutch was very heavy. Even the noise was very average. Reliability over the years has been pretty awful from what i hear and read and, all things considered, my advice is FORGET paying a million quid for one.
Instead, get any of these fabulous, fabulous cars.
Ferrari 458 or 458 Speciale. THE pinnacle of lightweight V8 engines with naturally aspiration. Lamborghini Aventador. Immense V12 with a sound to die for. At lower budgets an Audi R8 5.2 V10 with over 600 bhp, again non-charged and delightful.
The F40 is a poorly built kit car with a pretty rubbish engine and gearbox.
If a kit car will do get an Ultima 720 with it's 720 bhp (478 bhp for the F40) and the weight of a VW Polo.
Yeaaaaaaah, you've note really understood the point old chap. Where to begin? Fit and finish you'd be disappointed with on a kit car. (Which it really felt like it was to be frank, a kit car). You could actually see daylight from inside, between 2 panels in one area.
The engine was fairly powerful but incredibly laggy, with a massive wait for power unless you drove it like a racing car all the time and kept it in low gears ready to go. The wide ratio 5 speed gearbox enhanced that feeling of lag as it was easy to drop out of the boosted areas of shove, unless, as i said you were driving it full on. The gearbox itself felt agricultural, a real surprise even on a 1990 sports car. The clutch was very heavy. Even the noise was very average. Reliability over the years has been pretty awful from what i hear and read and, all things considered, my advice is FORGET paying a million quid for one.
Instead, get any of these fabulous, fabulous cars.
Ferrari 458 or 458 Speciale. THE pinnacle of lightweight V8 engines with naturally aspiration. Lamborghini Aventador. Immense V12 with a sound to die for. At lower budgets an Audi R8 5.2 V10 with over 600 bhp, again non-charged and delightful.
The F40 is a poorly built kit car with a pretty rubbish engine and gearbox.
If a kit car will do get an Ultima 720 with it's 720 bhp (478 bhp for the F40) and the weight of a VW Polo.
Edited by BroadsRS6 on Friday 12th March 14:54
Every single modern 911 would for instance be better to drive then a 2.7RS. But do you know what? I don't care, i'd take the RS.
Hell, a modern MX5 is probably better in every respect then my 25 year old Eunos. But i don't care. Because it doesn't matter how objectionably good a car is somtimes, it just matters how it makes you feel, be that when you drive it, or look at it..
Rosienchip said:
He has a kit car and multiple other toys, he's done a load of experience days, I just wondered if anyone knew where to see this specific car as it is his childhood dream.....can only try!!!!
I had a look around and under one at a Ferrari dealer I visited a few years back, tell him to look under his kit car - it will probably be better put together. They sound mad mind, but you won’t get that sensation if you’re just looking.
Edit: just to reiterate, find a dealer that has one in stock and ask if you can view for the experience - unless we’re in lockdown I doubt they’ll turn you away.
Edited by AlmostUseful on Friday 12th March 21:37
vaderface said:
smithyithy said:
No exaggeration, those 2 cars are worth at least 10 of the houses that the truck was parked next to. Absolutely bizarre sight..
OT, Expensive cars outside cheap houses? Think this counts Bizarre indeed.122 The Ridgeway, St.Albans AL4 9PR. Zoopla estimate at £911k.
It is opposite a very good state primary and secondary so desirable location.
Not all things are as they look, like the fake Ferrari's. But it looks like they moved on to a real 997 Cab.
I remember driving past the fake Testarossa!
BroadsRS6 said:
I have driven an F40 on 3 occasions, a late model but still pre-cat car a customer owns and has since new in 1991. The current values reflect the rarity and 'unhinged' nature of the car but in the cold light of day, they are a terrible waste of a million quid, simple as that. Unless you feel sure they will continue to go up in value as an investment. Not to drive.
Where to begin? Fit and finish you'd be disappointed with on a kit car. (Which it really felt like it was to be frank, a kit car). You could actually see daylight from inside, between 2 panels in one area.
The engine was fairly powerful but incredibly laggy, with a massive wait for power unless you drove it like a racing car all the time and kept it in low gears ready to go. The wide ratio 5 speed gearbox enhanced that feeling of lag as it was easy to drop out of the boosted areas of shove, unless, as i said you were driving it full on. The gearbox itself felt agricultural, a real surprise even on a 1990 sports car. The clutch was very heavy. Even the noise was very average. Reliability over the years has been pretty awful from what i hear and read and, all things considered, my advice is FORGET paying a million quid for one.
Instead, get any of these fabulous, fabulous cars.
Ferrari 458 or 458 Speciale. THE pinnacle of lightweight V8 engines with naturally aspiration. Lamborghini Aventador. Immense V12 with a sound to die for. At lower budgets an Audi R8 5.2 V10 with over 600 bhp, again non-charged and delightful.
The F40 is a poorly built kit car with a pretty rubbish engine and gearbox.
If a kit car will do get an Ultima 720 with it's 720 bhp (478 bhp for the F40) and the weight of a VW Polo.
Funny I’ve driven both an early non cat non adjust F40 and a Speciale a fair amount too! Couldn’t disagree more. Where to begin? Fit and finish you'd be disappointed with on a kit car. (Which it really felt like it was to be frank, a kit car). You could actually see daylight from inside, between 2 panels in one area.
The engine was fairly powerful but incredibly laggy, with a massive wait for power unless you drove it like a racing car all the time and kept it in low gears ready to go. The wide ratio 5 speed gearbox enhanced that feeling of lag as it was easy to drop out of the boosted areas of shove, unless, as i said you were driving it full on. The gearbox itself felt agricultural, a real surprise even on a 1990 sports car. The clutch was very heavy. Even the noise was very average. Reliability over the years has been pretty awful from what i hear and read and, all things considered, my advice is FORGET paying a million quid for one.
Instead, get any of these fabulous, fabulous cars.
Ferrari 458 or 458 Speciale. THE pinnacle of lightweight V8 engines with naturally aspiration. Lamborghini Aventador. Immense V12 with a sound to die for. At lower budgets an Audi R8 5.2 V10 with over 600 bhp, again non-charged and delightful.
The F40 is a poorly built kit car with a pretty rubbish engine and gearbox.
If a kit car will do get an Ultima 720 with it's 720 bhp (478 bhp for the F40) and the weight of a VW Polo.
Edited by BroadsRS6 on Friday 12th March 14:54
Even a nice F40 might have shonky build quality and be a bit agricultural in some respects but if you can’t look past that then you’ll never get it. To sum it up in a sentence it’s like driving an S1 Elise with a 1970’s Le Mans engine. As special and thrilling tooling around at 20mph as it is absolutely lit up on-boost in third gear when you can feel it climbing up the tyres, followed by the artillery fire on the overrun when you inevitably bottle it as you’re really travelling!
Speciale on the other hand, amazingly fast and competent but too PlayStation and feels very ordinary on the road right up until the point you wind it up and it has a snap at you. Completely wasted unless you’re going to track it. Plus the super quick steering and steering wheel controls for everything really aren’t my thing.
g7jhp said:
vaderface said:
smithyithy said:
No exaggeration, those 2 cars are worth at least 10 of the houses that the truck was parked next to. Absolutely bizarre sight..
OT, Expensive cars outside cheap houses? Think this counts Bizarre indeed.122 The Ridgeway, St.Albans AL4 9PR. Zoopla estimate at £911k.
It is opposite a very good state primary and secondary so desirable location.
Not all things are as they look, like the fake Ferrari's. But it looks like they moved on to a real 997 Cab.
I remember driving past the fake Testarossa!
A million quid for THAT house?
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