what happened to using a bucket and a sponge?
Discussion
Pan Pan Pan said:
I have seen this very thing happen several times at hand car washes. anyone who takes his car through one of these, or the automatic type does not give a f*ck about their car, which is fine, but which begs the question, if this is the case, why do they bother to wash it at all?
As posted earlier I saw a new Bentley being put through a hand car wash where one of the operatives, dropped their sponge onto the floor (a floor covered with the dirt, and grit just washed off preceding cars) and just carry on using it without first rinsing it off.
the most expensive car is saw undergoing this treatment was a Ferrari, and I remember thinking, `that guy must be mega rich, if he can afford to f*ck up his hundred and fifty thousand pound car putting it through a car wash' But that may have just been his way of demonstrating how `really, really' loaded he was?
I’ve had Ferrari’s and was a member of the owners club for many years. Many of the owners including me used manned (not automatic) car washes. On tour a few took the equipment and insisted on washing their own cars which didn’t always go down well with the hotels we were staying at.As posted earlier I saw a new Bentley being put through a hand car wash where one of the operatives, dropped their sponge onto the floor (a floor covered with the dirt, and grit just washed off preceding cars) and just carry on using it without first rinsing it off.
the most expensive car is saw undergoing this treatment was a Ferrari, and I remember thinking, `that guy must be mega rich, if he can afford to f*ck up his hundred and fifty thousand pound car putting it through a car wash' But that may have just been his way of demonstrating how `really, really' loaded he was?
bad company said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
I have seen this very thing happen several times at hand car washes. anyone who takes his car through one of these, or the automatic type does not give a f*ck about their car, which is fine, but which begs the question, if this is the case, why do they bother to wash it at all?
As posted earlier I saw a new Bentley being put through a hand car wash where one of the operatives, dropped their sponge onto the floor (a floor covered with the dirt, and grit just washed off preceding cars) and just carry on using it without first rinsing it off.
the most expensive car is saw undergoing this treatment was a Ferrari, and I remember thinking, `that guy must be mega rich, if he can afford to f*ck up his hundred and fifty thousand pound car putting it through a car wash' But that may have just been his way of demonstrating how `really, really' loaded he was?
I’ve had Ferrari’s and was a member of the owners club for many years. Many of the owners including me used manned (not automatic) car washes. On tour a few took the equipment and insisted on washing their own cars which didn’t always go down well with the hotels we were staying at.As posted earlier I saw a new Bentley being put through a hand car wash where one of the operatives, dropped their sponge onto the floor (a floor covered with the dirt, and grit just washed off preceding cars) and just carry on using it without first rinsing it off.
the most expensive car is saw undergoing this treatment was a Ferrari, and I remember thinking, `that guy must be mega rich, if he can afford to f*ck up his hundred and fifty thousand pound car putting it through a car wash' But that may have just been his way of demonstrating how `really, really' loaded he was?
If someone is not interested in how their car looks, that is as perfectly OK, as someone who does bother about what their car looks like.
They are almost the opposite of those who have for example, a rare and expensive painting. It does not do anything, it just hangs on the wall in a vault somewhere, yet it can be virtually priceless, if not worth millions and millions of pounds, but if that is what floats `their' boat, then fine.
In the case of a painting continually cleaning it, could seriously damage its value, whereas with an expensive car, keeping it clean generally has the opposite effect. It is just horses for courses.
Pan Pan Pan said:
That is fine, and each to their own way of thinking.
If someone is not interested in how their car looks, that is as perfectly OK, as someone who does bother about what their car looks like.
They are almost the opposite of those who have for example, a rare and expensive painting. It does not do anything, it just hangs on the wall in a vault somewhere, yet it can be virtually priceless, if not worth millions and millions of pounds, but if that is what floats `their' boat, then fine.
In the case of a painting continually cleaning it, could seriously damage its value, whereas with an expensive car, keeping it clean generally has the opposite effect. It is just horses for courses.
On the Ferrari tours we all cared how our cars looked. Most of us paid to have our cars washed but a few were real enthusiasts and spent ages cleaning.If someone is not interested in how their car looks, that is as perfectly OK, as someone who does bother about what their car looks like.
They are almost the opposite of those who have for example, a rare and expensive painting. It does not do anything, it just hangs on the wall in a vault somewhere, yet it can be virtually priceless, if not worth millions and millions of pounds, but if that is what floats `their' boat, then fine.
In the case of a painting continually cleaning it, could seriously damage its value, whereas with an expensive car, keeping it clean generally has the opposite effect. It is just horses for courses.
As you can imagine there were some very seriously wealthy people on the tour. There were also some less rich individuals including a lorry driver who worked overtime to buy his car and pay for the Ferrari holiday. His was one of the oldest and less expensive cars but it was always spotless.
bad company said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
That is fine, and each to their own way of thinking.
If someone is not interested in how their car looks, that is as perfectly OK, as someone who does bother about what their car looks like.
They are almost the opposite of those who have for example, a rare and expensive painting. It does not do anything, it just hangs on the wall in a vault somewhere, yet it can be virtually priceless, if not worth millions and millions of pounds, but if that is what floats `their' boat, then fine.
In the case of a painting continually cleaning it, could seriously damage its value, whereas with an expensive car, keeping it clean generally has the opposite effect. It is just horses for courses.
On the Ferrari tours we all cared how our cars looked. Most of us paid to have our cars washed but a few were real enthusiasts and spent ages cleaning.If someone is not interested in how their car looks, that is as perfectly OK, as someone who does bother about what their car looks like.
They are almost the opposite of those who have for example, a rare and expensive painting. It does not do anything, it just hangs on the wall in a vault somewhere, yet it can be virtually priceless, if not worth millions and millions of pounds, but if that is what floats `their' boat, then fine.
In the case of a painting continually cleaning it, could seriously damage its value, whereas with an expensive car, keeping it clean generally has the opposite effect. It is just horses for courses.
As you can imagine there were some very seriously wealthy people on the tour. There were also some less rich individuals including a lorry driver who worked overtime to buy his car and pay for the Ferrari holiday. His was one of the oldest and less expensive cars but it was always spotless.
whilst I can appreciate the `joys'? of owning such expensive equipment, I do sometimes wonder just how much `joy the truly wealthy, actually derive from their mega expensive cars, yachts, planes, houses etc.
Also of course since no one has found a way of living forever (no matter how wealthy they are) all their mega expensive `joys' will just be left behind when they pop their clogs.
I am in the fortunate position, in that I have just enough to truly value, enjoy and appreciate the things I have. and they are not that expensive, but they are exactly what I have always wanted.
Chubbyross said:
Prohibiting said:
After a proper clean, paintwork decontaminated (tar removal, iron fall out removal and clayed), finished with a quick detailer spray:
Still looks faded and dull despite being spotless, right?
A few weeks later, a good clean and knowing I’ve done 1/3 of the work above, straight onto machine polishing to remove swirl marks and bring the paint back to life after years of abuse from previous owners:
Now I’ve got it to this standard it’ll be super easy to maintain. Try telling me you can’t see the difference.
That’s a fantastic job! That colour is pretty much my favourite and has been ever since I received a Raleigh Europa in that colour for Christmas one year in the ‘70s. A Caterham in that colour would be my ultimate keeper. Still looks faded and dull despite being spotless, right?
A few weeks later, a good clean and knowing I’ve done 1/3 of the work above, straight onto machine polishing to remove swirl marks and bring the paint back to life after years of abuse from previous owners:
Now I’ve got it to this standard it’ll be super easy to maintain. Try telling me you can’t see the difference.
SWoll said:
Spare tyre said:
I like to use one bucket then throw the bucket of water over it when I’ve finished
Love it
Like having a shower in the bath with the plug in and then lying down in it afterwards. Pretty much defeats the purpose. Love it
Don’t wanna waste the fairy liquid at all
bad company said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
bad company said:
pyruse said:
Blimey. Am I the only one who just drives to the nearest automatic car wash?
I wouldn’t use an automatic car wash but as soon as our local East European run car wash reopens I’ll be there.For me personally, my £20k Kia represents a sizeable investment and i'd like to keep it in as good a condition for as long as possible.
Automatic car washes tend to do less damage than the Eastern European car washes.
Those washes are so awful (the Eastern European ones), a single wash can in some cases causd irreparable damage to your paintwork.
The chemicals used can and usually are very close to brick acid, very strong and un diluted TFR.
Can cause damage to chrome trims, and remove any residue of wax or protective coating that's left.
The "wash mitts" are often dropped on the floor, jetted out and put straight onto the next car.
The water blades used are effectively windscreen wipers on handles which swipe water off the car, as well as catching any left over dirt and further embedding that into the surface of the paint
The chamois used further compound the issue.
Using the Eastern drive through car washes is the number one thing you can do to f
k up the bodywork condition of your car and frankly you're better off not washing it than using those.
Those washes are so awful (the Eastern European ones), a single wash can in some cases causd irreparable damage to your paintwork.
The chemicals used can and usually are very close to brick acid, very strong and un diluted TFR.
Can cause damage to chrome trims, and remove any residue of wax or protective coating that's left.
The "wash mitts" are often dropped on the floor, jetted out and put straight onto the next car.
The water blades used are effectively windscreen wipers on handles which swipe water off the car, as well as catching any left over dirt and further embedding that into the surface of the paint
The chamois used further compound the issue.
Using the Eastern drive through car washes is the number one thing you can do to f
k up the bodywork condition of your car and frankly you're better off not washing it than using those. 320d is all you need said:
Automatic car washes tend to do less damage than the Eastern European car washes.
Those washes are so awful (the Eastern European ones), a single wash can in some cases causd irreparable damage to your paintwork.
The chemicals used can and usually are very close to brick acid, very strong and un diluted TFR.
Can cause damage to chrome trims, and remove any residue of wax or protective coating that's left.
The "wash mitts" are often dropped on the floor, jetted out and put straight onto the next car.
The water blades used are effectively windscreen wipers on handles which swipe water off the car, as well as catching any left over dirt and further embedding that into the surface of the paint
The chamois used further compound the issue.
Using the Eastern drive through car washes is the number one thing you can do to fk up the bodywork condition of your car and frankly you're better off not washing it than using those.
How do you know what chemicals they’re using?Those washes are so awful (the Eastern European ones), a single wash can in some cases causd irreparable damage to your paintwork.
The chemicals used can and usually are very close to brick acid, very strong and un diluted TFR.
Can cause damage to chrome trims, and remove any residue of wax or protective coating that's left.
The "wash mitts" are often dropped on the floor, jetted out and put straight onto the next car.
The water blades used are effectively windscreen wipers on handles which swipe water off the car, as well as catching any left over dirt and further embedding that into the surface of the paint
The chamois used further compound the issue.
Using the Eastern drive through car washes is the number one thing you can do to f
k up the bodywork condition of your car and frankly you're better off not washing it than using those. I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
Edited by bad company on Sunday 4th April 18:48
bad company said:
How do you know what chemicals they’re using?
I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
Just because you haven't had a problem doesn't mean it's OK.I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
Edited by bad company on Sunday 4th April 18:48
You can be a 20 pack a day smoker and never have a problem, too.
Respectfully you probably don't know what you're looking at. As I offered to another member I have a few tools and would happily demonstrate the difference on a panel to see what you are "missing".
bad company said:
How do you know what chemicals they’re using?
I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
With regards to the chemicals, it's an oft repeated statement that these places use brick acid to clean the wheels and i've seen several places where the wheel stations have pronounced dents in the floor indicating the presence of something very strong indeed.I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
Edited by bad company on Sunday 4th April 18:48
It's also an oft repeated statement that they use bulk quantities of persil liquid but that i think is an urban myth.
You pays your money and takes your choice, i don't go the hand car wash or automatic car wash for previously mentioned reasons but if people want to, then who am i to say it's a bad choice
320d is all you need said:
bad company said:
How do you know what chemicals they’re using?
I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
Just because you haven't had a problem doesn't mean it's OK.I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
Edited by bad company on Sunday 4th April 18:48
You can be a 20 pack a day smoker and never have a problem, too.
Respectfully you probably don't know what you're looking at. As I offered to another member I have a few tools and would happily demonstrate the difference on a panel to see what you are "missing".
I’m sure you’re right that if you take cleaning your car that seriously you’ll see and could demonstrate the difference on a panel. Like 99% of the population I’m not that bothered. My TVR is always hand washed at home but my every day driver (2020 BMW M340) goes to the car wash when it’s open.
Edited by bad company on Sunday 4th April 20:51
bad company said:
320d is all you need said:
bad company said:
How do you know what chemicals they’re using?
I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
Just because you haven't had a problem doesn't mean it's OK.I’ve been using East European car washes for years, never had a problem. As soon as they reopen I’ll be back.
Edited by bad company on Sunday 4th April 18:48
You can be a 20 pack a day smoker and never have a problem, too.
Respectfully you probably don't know what you're looking at. As I offered to another member I have a few tools and would happily demonstrate the difference on a panel to see what you are "missing".
I’m sure you’re right that if you take cleaning your car that seriously you’ll see and could demonstrate the difference on a panel. Like 99% of the population I’m not that bothered. My TVR is always hand washed at home but my every day driver (2020 BMW M340) goes to the car wash when it’s open.
Edited by bad company on Sunday 4th April 20:51
Decent detailing products are chemically engineered to hell where cheap ones are not.
They likely use the stuff that gives you that immediate 'looks ok' but in reality are the equivalent of using fairy liquid on your face.
jamei303 said:
Might wash my car out of boredom today. However it hasn't been washed since last June so has a thick layer of grime and I don't have access to a pressure washer.
Any suggestions on how I can get this grime off without rubbing it against the paintwork?
Your main option is to soak with water using just a normal hose and wash gently with car shampoo and a mitt. Any suggestions on how I can get this grime off without rubbing it against the paintwork?
You could pop to Halfords this morning to buy an “all purpose cleaner” in a spray bottle and soak the car with that to loosen the grime first.
The more expensive option is to use Halfords click and collect to buy a Karcher pressure washer, snow foam lance and Auto Glym polar blast
Edited by Prohibiting on Monday 5th April 07:58
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