What happened to genuinely posh cars and their targets?
Discussion
Harry Flashman said:
Deep Thought said:
otolith said:
sasha320 said:
This is also what the cash poor landed gentry say to cover up for the fact that their grandfather was a swashbuckling entrepreneurial business tycoon who created millions and all they’ve achieved with all their privilege and jump start in life is 4uck all.
I'm not sure which I find most amusing - the way that the aristocracy created this idea of the merit of inheriting wealth over earning it in order to continue to lord it over the "new money" who had more of it than them - or the forelock tugging here by some modern peasantry who buy into this nonsense.
This ingrained deference to inherited wealth is laughable. My American wife is bemused by it - (but they do it too, Rockefellers, Kennedys etc.)
My family is originally from a country where the aristocracy used caste to make slaves of the vast majority of the population, for centuries. I am myself of one of those landowning families, actually. As the power of agriculture gave way to industry, these families either reinvented themselves (Duke of Devonshire), or died (minor aristocracy in houses that are no longer supported by estates, giving it away to the National Trust). And yet the latter are somehow revered by our forelock tugging, trained to be subservient society as smarter than the person who made a billion for themselves in their own lifetime. It is laughable.
I think that class/caste is up there with religion as one of the greatest coercive social controls ever perpetuated by people on other people. Constructs designed to funnel money from the many to the few, and keep those few producing that wealth for the elite, in perpetuity. And as feudalism waned, to preserve the social status of an undeserving elite.
And these "wealth whispers" idiots are just buying into this rubbish even more. It is such a part of the middle class British tradition - to revere old money, and aid that old money in brooking no competition from upstart merchants.
Some people actually deserve to be serfs, it seems.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Thursday 8th April 15:36
Flumpo said:
baconsarney said:
Just before first lockdown last year I was doing the twice weekly shop at Waitrose (took the Aston rather than the Volvo) and on returning to the car I had a rather nice chat with a chap who was just getting in to his Bentley with his young son. Not that I was on the lookout but I didn't see one posh person whilst one was there....
Apologies if my post isn't quite on topic...
No it is actually on topic, as posh people don’t shop in Waitrose. They have the game keeper deliver all their meat/game/poultry and a local farmer deliver fresh produce. Anything else the help will collect.Apologies if my post isn't quite on topic...
Waitrose is for new money or those desperate to feel part of something better. Having a car park full of bling bling Bentley or Astons sounds spot on.
?? unfortunately I shop in Waitrose and drive the Volvo held together with twine, but have no money, class, aspirations or status. Although I know a loose acquaintance who has a digital copy of an old Daimler brochure. Potentially that gives me some bonus points.
otolith said:
This cringing anxiety about whether the neighbours might think one is being a little too flash (and this bootlicking of one’s “betters” and admiration of what one imagines to be their virtues) is a very petite bourgeois middle class pathology.
The entire subject is just a massive cringefest, clearly only really of great importance if someone is insecure about their lot in life. Rich, great, posh, good on them. Old money, new money, awesome. RMDB9 said:
Looking at the thread's responses, it is evidently clearly to see that the new money world, with wealth on display, gets a lot more leeway here on PH than the world of immaterial status, which seems to be scary for many, because money cant buy everything.
I’m seeing it slightly differently, the new money world is largely underpinned by some form of achievement, hard work and / or sacrifice.Old-whispering-understated-posh-inter-generational wealth is underpinned by birthright and privilege but above all is clique accessed by a minority at the expense of the majority (or at the least the original wealth was).
So hardly surprising that new money is given more ‘leeway’.
To digress a bit, Jacob Rees Mogg still thinks his modern interpretation of Bertie Wooster is something to behold. Personally I find everything about him as crass as a new-money rags-to-riches estuary English speaking bling millionaire lounging by a pool in Dubai.
NomduJour said:
Amused when it’s labelled as an English thing - passing judgment on those considered your social inferiors happens everywhere.
A mate of mine, from NZ, told me that he'd never even thought about "class" until he came to live in the UK in his 20s. An English friend has lived in Norway for a long time and likes the fact that isn't a factor there. Harry Flashman said:
Who takes their sports car to a supermarket?
If I ever go shopping, I take a Nissan Leaf.
But I like the point you are making and the sarcasm in their. Good work!
I took my Aston all of the time to the supermarket and shopping trips as it was my daily driver.If I ever go shopping, I take a Nissan Leaf.
But I like the point you are making and the sarcasm in their. Good work!
At the end of the day mine was an entry level 06 Aston that cost me the same as mid-level new BMW - It was not a posh car, to be honest I came to hate mine due to the issues I had. (Looked nice and sounded nice but that was it)
Edited by The GMan on Friday 9th April 10:44
otolith said:
NomduJour said:
Amused when it’s labelled as an English thing - passing judgment on those considered your social inferiors happens everywhere.
It's not the sneering that's unusual, it's the bootlicking.However, all the foreign friends I have seem to fawn over anyone with a title, but maybe that’s a novelty thing, not sure what they have in Poland as an equivalent.
otolith said:
NomduJour said:
Amused when it’s labelled as an English thing - passing judgment on those considered your social inferiors happens everywhere.
It's not the sneering that's unusual, it's the bootlicking.Look at that old AA video with the instructor in the Jag beeping the plebs out the way. Excellent. Society has gone to the dogs and people just don't know their place anymore.
Peasants.
The GMan said:
I took my Aston all of the time to the supermarket and shopping trips as it was my daily driver.
At the end of the day mine was an entry level 06 Aston that cost me the same as mid-level new BMW - It was not a posh car, to be honest I came to hate mine due to the issues I had. (Looked nice and sounded nice but that was it)
Mune was an 07. Snap on the issues.At the end of the day mine was an entry level 06 Aston that cost me the same as mid-level new BMW - It was not a posh car, to be honest I came to hate mine due to the issues I had. (Looked nice and sounded nice but that was it)
Edited by The GMan on Friday 9th April 10:44
Muddle238 said:
Flumpo said:
baconsarney said:
Just before first lockdown last year I was doing the twice weekly shop at Waitrose (took the Aston rather than the Volvo) and on returning to the car I had a rather nice chat with a chap who was just getting in to his Bentley with his young son. Not that I was on the lookout but I didn't see one posh person whilst one was there....
Apologies if my post isn't quite on topic...
No it is actually on topic, as posh people don’t shop in Waitrose. They have the game keeper deliver all their meat/game/poultry and a local farmer deliver fresh produce. Anything else the help will collect.Apologies if my post isn't quite on topic...
Waitrose is for new money or those desperate to feel part of something better. Having a car park full of bling bling Bentley or Astons sounds spot on.
?? unfortunately I shop in Waitrose and drive the Volvo held together with twine, but have no money, class, aspirations or status. Although I know a loose acquaintance who has a digital copy of an old Daimler brochure. Potentially that gives me some bonus points.
Muddle238 said:
Flumpo said:
baconsarney said:
Just before first lockdown last year I was doing the twice weekly shop at Waitrose (took the Aston rather than the Volvo) and on returning to the car I had a rather nice chat with a chap who was just getting in to his Bentley with his young son. Not that I was on the lookout but I didn't see one posh person whilst one was there....
Apologies if my post isn't quite on topic...
No it is actually on topic, as posh people don’t shop in Waitrose. They have the game keeper deliver all their meat/game/poultry and a local farmer deliver fresh produce. Anything else the help will collect.Apologies if my post isn't quite on topic...
Waitrose is for new money or those desperate to feel part of something better. Having a car park full of bling bling Bentley or Astons sounds spot on.
?? unfortunately I shop in Waitrose and drive the Volvo held together with twine, but have no money, class, aspirations or status. Although I know a loose acquaintance who has a digital copy of an old Daimler brochure. Potentially that gives me some bonus points.
otolith said:
NomduJour said:
Amused when it’s labelled as an English thing - passing judgment on those considered your social inferiors happens everywhere.
It's not the sneering that's unusual, it's the bootlicking.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff