What happened to genuinely posh cars and their targets?
Discussion
CGILLIE said:
Genuine Barn Find said:
CGILLIE said:
Truly "posh" people have a battered land rover or estate car full of dog hair n gun cartridges, frayed tattersall shirt collars etc. and are usually skint with leaking roofs to their castles
What a load of b
ks. I tick all of the above boxes (castle aside) and don’t consider myself ‘posh’..... just skint. DonkeyApple said:
If we do look more closely at the people borrowing to use Range Rovers there are of course going to be people who are taking the £1000/month that they desperately need to be putting into their pensions if they are to stand any chance of maintaining a retirement off State benefits
but
at the same time
there are vast numbers of people who
- by middle age have filled their pension to the max,
- have large ISA portfolios,
- are coming to the end of paying school fees and the mortgage and
- have considerable lump sums looming from inheritance. T
hese people who have lived prudently, saving, investing and not over spending so that their family is secure and safe now find themselves with thousands upon thousands of £ coming in every month that are ultimately surplus to requirements so deciding to spend a couple of grand a month on renting nice cars that get replaced every other year is a bit of a no brainer.
Shouldnt these rich bbut
at the same time
there are vast numbers of people who
- by middle age have filled their pension to the max,
- have large ISA portfolios,
- are coming to the end of paying school fees and the mortgage and
- have considerable lump sums looming from inheritance. T
hese people who have lived prudently, saving, investing and not over spending so that their family is secure and safe now find themselves with thousands upon thousands of £ coming in every month that are ultimately surplus to requirements so deciding to spend a couple of grand a month on renting nice cars that get replaced every other year is a bit of a no brainer.
ds being taxed because of all the the wealth they have amassed on behalf of others? If people dont spend money, they are technically stealing VAT which does not end up in the state's purse, which is where people's money belongs.DonkeyApple said:
The flip side is that every single property run by the National Trust is a monument to the success of the long history of taxation on the affluent in the UK.
Indeed. Now lets raise the bar, or rather lower it, and tax away the property on the ranks below. If someone has bought a house 30 years ago in a suburb of London, which over the years has become "leafy" and "desirable" and "in the catchment area" of schools, and the house has multipled in value, lets tax the owner for that undeserved wealth.Teddy Lop said:
Have luxury cars ever been unrestrained and classy in their own time, (or whatever design characteristic it is that's lacking in today's vulgarity)?
Everyone from pop stars to scrap metal dealers had a shadow in the 60s so maybe it was a whole lot more flash harry than the nostalgists view..
Spot on. Two-tone paint schemes, gold-plated Emily's', black leather seats with white pipings. Everyone from pop stars to scrap metal dealers had a shadow in the 60s so maybe it was a whole lot more flash harry than the nostalgists view..
Jaguar steve said:
RMDB9 said:
Exactly. The big class divide are one's life priorities, although certain parts of the upper and working classes overlap in that respect.
The working classes have nothing to loose and the upper classes have nothing to prove. Neither will give a st what anybody thinks of them.It's only those in the middle desperately aspiring to material success and social status with an image to maintain who'll care what others think.
MC Bodge said:
Jaguar steve said:
The working classes have nothing to loose and the upper classes have nothing to prove. Neither will give a st what anybody thinks of them.
It's only those in the middle desperately aspiring to material success and social status with an image to maintain who'll care what others think.
What is upper class these days?t what anybody thinks of them.It's only those in the middle desperately aspiring to material success and social status with an image to maintain who'll care what others think.
I would suggest that it probably includes very wealthy families who made their money a few generations ago, rather than just aristocrats and royalty.
lowdrag said:
Harry Flashman said:
This thread, like the best conversations, is veering into lots of topics.
Let it veer, but please do not let us get into discussing watches - please. There is a thread on PH about when the crash in the prices of a certain make will come. Nothing buy sheer, animalistic, greed and cock-crowing. A true sign of the modern age, when even if the shop were open you cannot buy a certain model of watch if you don't buy at least a couple of less-wanted ones. And of course, one must never take it out of the box and wear it. and to think it was considered normal to wear a sheath knife on my belt.AW111 said:
Sahjahd said:
themule said:
Interesting to read Alan Clark's motoring writings on this subject. After the war and into the fifties if you wanted a reliable, comfy car with decent performance you had very little choice in this country. Below the level of Rolls Royce and Bentley cars tended to be small, slow and badly built. People with money often imported US cars to be used as everyday transport.
Actually, few of the aristocracy went near such crass offerings; most, including the QM drove Jags or Daimlers:https://www.jaguarheritage.com/car/1955-jaguar-mar...
https://jec.org.uk/news/2017/jaguars-of-the-royal-...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/features/great-br...
Of course one may feel that a family of robber barons are not especially posh.
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