RE: New Toyota GR 86 - official!
Discussion
snorkel sucker said:
Back in 2006 I changed from a Civic Type R (197bhp) to an S2000 (237bhp) expecting my world to be set alight with the power increase. I recall being distinctly underwhelmed in that regard, but loved the delivery and ability of the S2000 to rev even sweeter than the already brilliant Type R engine.
I say this only because I hope anyone stumping up for the new one doesn't do so thinking the power increase is going to make a massive difference. I do hope, however, that the subtle changes to the engine bring more character because that, allied to an already sweet chassis can definitely make enough difference to warrant a change.
But the s2000 and ctr almost had the same torque figure it made power by extending the rpm limit also I think weight increased on the s2000 vs the ctr. This gt86 has a power and torque increase which should feel more noticeable. I agree it’s not night and day. But it will be noticeable. I say this only because I hope anyone stumping up for the new one doesn't do so thinking the power increase is going to make a massive difference. I do hope, however, that the subtle changes to the engine bring more character because that, allied to an already sweet chassis can definitely make enough difference to warrant a change.
Agree with all your previous points.
Is it me or do we need to change the website to Toyotaheads? Seems like Toyota are the only mass manufacturer company able to / willing to make fun cars. As someone has mentioned GR Supra, GR Yaris and now this. Dare I say it? Glory days for Toyota are right now?
Edited by mintmansam on Monday 5th April 08:54
SidewaysSi said:
Yep looks likes an Insignia from the back.
But for me, far more interesting than the GR Yaris which seemed a bit dull.
Love to know what you think could have made the GR Yaris more interesting? But for me, far more interesting than the GR Yaris which seemed a bit dull.
Toyota seem to be covering most of the bases for affordable sports cars with differing characters, but it's a shame that only the GR Yaris is a proper Toyota and not a rebadged or co-developed car.
cerb4.5lee said:
For me I'd have preferred a turbo engine in this. However I do really like the way it looks, and I'm really happy that Toyota are still making cars like this for sure. I do love a RWD Coupe for sure(I really like how relatively light this is too). 
I’m the opposite, however an 86 with the 3 pot out of the GR and still sub 1,300kg would be a very interesting prospect.mintmansam said:
snorkel sucker said:
Back in 2006 I changed from a Civic Type R (197bhp) to an S2000 (237bhp) expecting my world to be set alight with the power increase. I recall being distinctly underwhelmed in that regard, but loved the delivery and ability of the S2000 to rev even sweeter than the already brilliant Type R engine.
I say this only because I hope anyone stumping up for the new one doesn't do so thinking the power increase is going to make a massive difference. I do hope, however, that the subtle changes to the engine bring more character because that, allied to an already sweet chassis can definitely make enough difference to warrant a change.
But the s2000 and ctr almost had the same torque figure it made power by extending the rpm limit also I think weight increased on the s2000 vs the ctr. This gt86 has a power and torque increase which should feel more noticeable. I agree it’s not night and day. But it will be noticeable. I say this only because I hope anyone stumping up for the new one doesn't do so thinking the power increase is going to make a massive difference. I do hope, however, that the subtle changes to the engine bring more character because that, allied to an already sweet chassis can definitely make enough difference to warrant a change.
Agree with all your previous points.
Is it me or do we need to change the website to Toyotaheads? Seems like Toyota are the only mass manufacturer company able to / willing to make fun cars. As someone has mentioned GR Supra, GR Yaris and now this. Dare I say it? Glory days for Toyota are right now?
Edited by mintmansam on Monday 5th April 08:54
also, bonnet seems much higher. pedestrian safety i'm guessing?
I ran a BRZ for 18 months and am definitley tempted. More torque, updated (albeit still quite retro ...)interior and better tyres sorts key issues for me. A bit more sound insulation wouldn't go amiss too. Hope the driving position still works well for a 6' 4" lanky bloke and I can still wedge a bike in the back with the seats down.
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