RE: Toyota GR Yaris Nurburgring lap time

[Digga]

braddo said:

Digga said:

Aerial view, Aremberg down, via Fuchsrohre to Adenaur Forst:

That is an awesome photo.

And yes, it feels very narrow when heading down that steep downhill squiggle and another car is trying to squeeze past into a 120mph+ compression!

It's one of the few bits I feel I got almost right (rather than feeling completely lost and overwhelmed and terrified, as in other sections) very early on visiting the track. I think it was this video that taught me how to use the throttle through the compression:

https://youtu.be/Uqa8MFSXZHM?t=129

Great video, superb watch.

[nickfrog]

braddo said:

That is an awesome photo.

And yes, it feels very narrow when heading down that steep downhill squiggle and another car is trying to squeeze past into a 120mph+ compression!

I didn't even make it that far once and had to brake almost at the top as the closing speed with the MX5 was huge. A lift could have been enough but as it transpired the MX5 then closed the door.

[braddo]

From the point your car is at in your photo, definitely a section where I am happy to just follow a slower car rather than try and squeeze past and rely on the other driver!

In the vid that digga posted I can’t believe the driver mentions he hits 250kmh through the bottom

[nickfrog]

braddo said:

From the point your car is at in your photo, definitely a section where I am happy to just follow a slower car rather than try and squeeze past and rely on the other driver!

Indeed, that's why I braked while the tyres still didn't have much lateral load.

[Digga]

braddo said:

In the vid that digga posted I can’t believe the driver mentions he hits 250kmh through the bottom

It's mad isn;t it? He's obviously a professional racing driver, but it is amusing how laid back he is about it.

nickfrog said:

braddo said:

From the point your car is at in your photo, definitely a section where I am happy to just follow a slower car rather than try and squeeze past and rely on the other driver!

Indeed, that's why I braked while the tyres still didn't have much lateral load.

There's really very little wiggle room for two cars through the s-bends. Holding neither left or right hand lines is ideal and you'd need 100% co-operation from both. No idea how racers mange to overtake through there, but they do. See Sabine's epic lap.

[Olivera]

nickfrog said:

I didn't even make it that far once and had to brake almost at the top as the closing speed with the MX5 was huge. A lift could have been enough but as it transpired the MX5 then closed the door.

The track undulates quite a bit here, where the kerbing is on the left, and the car can bounce quite a bit. It takes experience and huge balls to just keep the throttle planted down this section.

[nickfrog]

Olivera said:

The track undulates quite a bit here, where the kerbing is on the left, and the car can bounce quite a bit. It takes experience and huge balls to just keep the throttle planted down this section.

I can't remember if I do, I haven't been for 3 years. I think I do in the dry on semis in relatively low powered cars like the Meganes. And I don't have particularly large cojones, sadly. I have only done 200 or so laps so enough to get a bit cocky but probably not enough to get away with it

[loudlashadjuster]

With some stickier rubber and the mildest of other mods (no direct power hike, just exhaust, wheels, pads and brake lines), this guy is homing in on 7:30

[RobGwynRGC]

Saw my first one in the wild last week. The noise! It takes you be surprise because you know it's a Yaris, it shouldn;t sound that good. I'd love to get my hands on one.

[Leon R]

The don't sound good at all from the factory.

The one you saw must have had a non stock exhaust system on it.

[loudlashadjuster]

Yeah, one of the things that attracts me to them is that they have little in the way of hooligan antics from the exhaust. Means you can make progress more discretely...

[Dave Hedgehog]

Leon R said:

The don't sound good at all from the factory.

The one you saw must have had a non stock exhaust system on it.

pretty much no new car does with the latest EU sound emission regs, just watch carwow

[Kawasicki]

Digga said:

It's one of the few bits I feel I got almost right (rather than feeling completely lost and overwhelmed and terrified, as in other sections) very early on visiting the track. I think it was this video that taught me how to use the throttle through the compression:

https://youtu.be/Uqa8MFSXZHM?t=129

Great video, superb watch.

I usually stay at full throttle through the bottom. See 5 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMPx1g_9KRY

[Digga]

Kawasicki said:

Digga said:

It's one of the few bits I feel I got almost right (rather than feeling completely lost and overwhelmed and terrified, as in other sections) very early on visiting the track. I think it was this video that taught me how to use the throttle through the compression:

https://youtu.be/Uqa8MFSXZHM?t=129

Great video, superb watch.

I usually stay at full throttle through the bottom. See 5 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMPx1g_9KRY

Not 100% sure on road tyres and, to be fair, not had a nice warm dry track to fully experiement with it.