RE: Semiconductor shortage triggers JLR shutdown
Discussion
camel_landy said:
RobEB said:
Blame the BBC, they've just taken on a £1.2 billion supercomputer - to make weather forecasting more accurate.
Paid for mostly by the licence fee, i should add.
...and in other news, the OED have removed "gullible" from the dictionary.Paid for mostly by the licence fee, i should add.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/56850822
The Met Office is buying the computer, with gov.uk investing £1.2bn. The BBC are just one of the many customers of the Met Office.
M
Imagine that; British weather provide by the Dutch
Sheepshanks said:
RobEB said:
Blame the BBC, they've just taken on a £1.2 billion supercomputer - to make weather forecasting more accurate.
Paid for mostly by the licence fee, i should add.
It's a good job you don't post more frequently.Paid for mostly by the licence fee, i should add.
Scottie - NW said:
It's surprised me that Cisco switch and router supply has been hit so badly by this. Products normally on a few weeks lead time are now being quoted as 6 months, and these are for high end high profit devices.
Same with SBCs and SIP gateways, so many projects held up because of this.
It doesn't surprise me - Cisco use the same contract manufacturers as everyone else, so are even more exposed (no own-stock or free-issue components from Cisco to the CMs).Same with SBCs and SIP gateways, so many projects held up because of this.
das_funky_zeit said:
rampageturke said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Maybe this will be the point at which Western manufacturing nations finally understand the need for some local chip manufacturing capability?
it's already underway, but it takes a good 2-3 years to actually get a fab up and moving if it was approved now. America being first in talks right nowLet's build some semi-conductor plants in the UK.
Wait a minute we did that, then they were shut down and moved abroad.
Fujitsu @ Newton Aycliffe
Siemens @ Silverlink
RobEB said:
Blame the BBC, they've just taken on a £1.2 billion supercomputer - to make weather forecasting more accurate.
Paid for mostly by the licence fee, i should add.
It's easy to ignore stupid posts. But this one is too fantastic to.Paid for mostly by the licence fee, i should add.
You really believe the BBC themselves were the ones doing the forecasting? Really?
CrutyRammers said:
Colonel D said:
The 30 series doesn't exist, never has, they've been lying to us from day one... To think I was foolish enough to believe I'd be able to pick up a 3060 or 70 soon after release.
I got a 3060 last month....albeit as part of a full systemA few months ago JLR closed their sales and service centre (run by Guy Salmon) in Ascot Hight St, re-locating to what amounts to an industrial complex over in nearby Bracknell.
Jaguar has spent many, presumably fruitful, years occupying a prime location in Ascot which has always been seen as a high-end 'shop window' in a pretty prestigious high street. You only have to look at the expensive upmarket vehicles both parked up and rolling through Ascot on a daily basis (not just on race days) to see that such a showroom is almost guaranteed to generate very well-heeled 'footfall' through it.
Location, location, location? It's without doubt a prime marketing site which has always hosted motor manufacturers' shop windows in my lifetime going right the way back to Ford owning/renting it back in the 1960's so the question is:
Are JLR suffering just from this shortage of computer components or are their problems perhaps running more deeply?
Jaguar has spent many, presumably fruitful, years occupying a prime location in Ascot which has always been seen as a high-end 'shop window' in a pretty prestigious high street. You only have to look at the expensive upmarket vehicles both parked up and rolling through Ascot on a daily basis (not just on race days) to see that such a showroom is almost guaranteed to generate very well-heeled 'footfall' through it.
Location, location, location? It's without doubt a prime marketing site which has always hosted motor manufacturers' shop windows in my lifetime going right the way back to Ford owning/renting it back in the 1960's so the question is:
Are JLR suffering just from this shortage of computer components or are their problems perhaps running more deeply?
Pusikurac said:
CS Garth said:
Is there an overall shortage of semi conductors or are those being made being diverted to the most profitable sales channels ie electronics? Or both?
I suspect crypto mining is to blame. Graphic card prices are going through the roof. Again. Going into CV19, I believe the car manufacturers revised down, their requirements, which in turn released some capacity which was quickly snapped up to produce other products. However, now they want to increase the forecasts, they can't as there simply isn't the capacity... They just have to join the queue, like everyone else.
M
firebird350 said:
A few months ago JLR closed their sales and service centre (run by Guy Salmon) in Ascot Hight St, re-locating to what amounts to an industrial complex over in nearby Bracknell.
Jaguar has spent many, presumably fruitful, years occupying a prime location in Ascot which has always been seen as a high-end 'shop window' in a pretty prestigious high street. You only have to look at the expensive upmarket vehicles both parked up and rolling through Ascot on a daily basis (not just on race days) to see that such a showroom is almost guaranteed to generate very well-heeled 'footfall' through it.
Location, location, location? It's without doubt a prime marketing site which has always hosted motor manufacturers' shop windows in my lifetime going right the way back to Ford owning/renting it back in the 1960's so the question is:
Are JLR suffering just from this shortage of computer components or are their problems perhaps running more deeply?
Nah, that's not JLR, that's Guy Salmon...Jaguar has spent many, presumably fruitful, years occupying a prime location in Ascot which has always been seen as a high-end 'shop window' in a pretty prestigious high street. You only have to look at the expensive upmarket vehicles both parked up and rolling through Ascot on a daily basis (not just on race days) to see that such a showroom is almost guaranteed to generate very well-heeled 'footfall' through it.
Location, location, location? It's without doubt a prime marketing site which has always hosted motor manufacturers' shop windows in my lifetime going right the way back to Ford owning/renting it back in the 1960's so the question is:
Are JLR suffering just from this shortage of computer components or are their problems perhaps running more deeply?
Guy Salmon are an independent company but they have a JLR 'Franchise', hence the logos, branding, etc.
M
Not that I move semi conductors but I do move oil all over the world and shipping is a major issue, it has been for nearly a year now and shows no sign of improving anytime soon.
Worst case I have experienced is moving a container from Malaysia to the UK, scheduled to reach UK late January, actually arrived this week... So 4 months late.
The container has been to many sea ports being dropped off and picked up etc. Spent 3 weeks sitting in Rotterdam.
Typically what took 3 weeks to move is now taking 2 months at best.
Shipping prices have shot up, worst one I heard of was a container moving again from Malaysia to Rotterdam, normally it would cost $3-4k.....this time $17k.
Worst case I have experienced is moving a container from Malaysia to the UK, scheduled to reach UK late January, actually arrived this week... So 4 months late.
The container has been to many sea ports being dropped off and picked up etc. Spent 3 weeks sitting in Rotterdam.
Typically what took 3 weeks to move is now taking 2 months at best.
Shipping prices have shot up, worst one I heard of was a container moving again from Malaysia to Rotterdam, normally it would cost $3-4k.....this time $17k.
BiggaJ said:
Not that I move semi conductors but I do move oil all over the world and shipping is a major issue, it has been for nearly a year now and shows no sign of improving anytime soon.
Semiconductors move by air - and often make several flights as each stage of manufacturer is usually caried out in different locations. It is a slight issue at the moment as often it'll be carried as freight on passenger aircraft and there are obvioulsy far fewer passenger flights, but it's a minor issue compared to general availability.
Sheepshanks said:
BiggaJ said:
Not that I move semi conductors but I do move oil all over the world and shipping is a major issue, it has been for nearly a year now and shows no sign of improving anytime soon.
Semiconductors move by air - and often make several flights as each stage of manufacturer is usually caried out in different locations. It is a slight issue at the moment as often it'll be carried as freight on passenger aircraft and there are obvioulsy far fewer passenger flights, but it's a minor issue compared to general availability.
M
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