RE: Bristol Cars returns from the dead

RE: Bristol Cars returns from the dead

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loggo

410 posts

113 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Cliftonite said:
The script badge shown is of the Bristol Omnibus Company/The Bristol Tramways and Carriage Company?!

They built and operated BUSES!

I stand to be corrected but weren't the chassis building company completely different from the bus operators. As they were a a part of the BET (was it?) Group of nationalised bus fleets they operated a fleet almost entirely consisting of Bristol vehicles with Eastern Coach Works bodies. BRS also operated a large number of Bristol lorries





Edited by Cliftonite on Friday 7th May 14:23

Cliftonite

8,412 posts

139 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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loggo said:
Cliftonite said:
The script badge shown is of the Bristol Omnibus Company/The Bristol Tramways and Carriage Company?!

They built and operated BUSES!

I stand to be corrected but weren't the chassis building company completely different from the bus operators. As they were a a part of the BET (was it?) Group of nationalised bus fleets they operated a fleet almost entirely consisting of Bristol vehicles with Eastern Coach Works bodies. BRS also operated a large number of Bristol lorries





Edited by Cliftonite on Friday 7th May 14:23
Yes. One put the name on the radiator, the other on the sides of the buses!





smilo996

2,795 posts

171 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Another Stately Home of a company. Run for the fun of being there but not to make a profit.
Good luck to him but Ecccles said about F1 that, many people come in rich and leave poor. These companies can be the same.
How is TVR these days.
If they update the Fighter and it sells then we will all be happy though.

ddom

6,657 posts

49 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Bristol were a niche, for me an embarrassing mush match of a company that sold overpriced crap. I cannot see there’s even a name to trade off of?

I would rather be sailing

45 posts

61 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Can I have two please. The bigger the better. Always liked a nice pair of Bristols

Wacky Racer

38,175 posts

248 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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SWoll said:
Equus said:
I actually quite liked the Fighter, but having seen one up close there was no denying that in terms of fit, finish, design and execution it was basically what you'd expect of an up-market kit car.

Asking £594K for one is a good joke, but I don't see many people astute enough to have become multi-milionaires falling for it.


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"Mad for it, our kid"

clacs2

312 posts

160 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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It does pose an interesting question though; is it better for a revived company to produce updated versions of the old models before developing new ones, i.e. Bristol, or to produce an entirely new model from the outset, i.e. TVR?

I fear I'll be long dead before seeing either company produce such a model, sadly.

hxc_

384 posts

185 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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What is the market for a new bristol fighter? There must be about 2 people in the world in that demographic.

Promsuit1

32 posts

104 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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who wants to buy an extremely expensive updated Bristol fighter.... not many... nobody knows what it is.. it’s an irrelevant car in a world of much nicer cars that can be bought for obviously a lot less.

most of the Bristol enthusiasts (including those that can afford it) will be dead soon surely

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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Lester H said:
Isn’t it ironic that there is a thriving thread on Dull, Bland and Boring, but when a proposal is made to revive a highly individual and quirky marque, there is so much pessimism.I could never afford a Bristol but admired/ tested them at a local car club.Yes their faults are well documented on PH, but they were totally different.As an analogy, like Jaguar ( also taken to task on DBB), in the 1970s they were like no other.
Just so. Let's celebrate eccentricity. Bristol was always rather mad, in a good way. If they get their act together, I'd buy one.

helmbarrie

3 posts

42 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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I was in London about 15 years ago and asked doorman of the Hotel I was staying in for directions to the Bristol showroom. He kindly rang the showroom and said a guest wanted to visit the showroom. I was welcomed by Tony Crook and given an opportunity to examine Blenheim and Fighter models in the showroom. The cars were a curious mixture of parts with many items such as ashtrays - at least 4 of them of rather poor quality and there was no air conditioning on a car costing £140000. The need for extensive investment in improvements was very obvious.

finlo

3,763 posts

204 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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Cliftonite said:
The script badge shown is of the Bristol Omnibus Company/The Bristol Tramways and Carriage Company?!

They built and operated BUSES!





Edited by Cliftonite on Friday 7th May 14:23
Started off with aeroplanes!

Equus

16,951 posts

102 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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tommy1973s said:
If they get their act together, I'd buy one.
At £595K?

Is that instead of or as well as your Nissan Micra?

romac

598 posts

147 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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Wishing Bristol all the best! Unlike some new-old companies (TVR, Radford) they are talking of building updated models of previously existing cars, rather than starting from scratch. I suspect that is easier. Bristol have had long associations with Chrysler. The Fighter will loose one of it's USPs though, if it looses the V10 Viper engine.


jorders500 said:
I've always liked Bristols.

I called in to the showroom once on my way back from a conference. The door squeaked as I opened it and I was greeted by a mature gentleman in a red striped shirt and braces. I said that I couldn't afford to buy one of his cars but could I have a look around anyway.

He said that was absolutely fine and, to my delight, he showed me around all the cars (inc a Fighter) and told me some great stories about the history of the company.

It was a wonderful half hour with a real gentleman.

I wish the new venture and its backers all the best.
I did this too. I was wondering if middle-aged Bristol was runnable as a company car. Mr Tony Crooks took me to the underground carpark to see a slightly tired 603 with 100k on the clock. He said that it wasn't worth buying one in good, low mileage condition to then put 25-30k on a year. Charming honesty. I got him reminiscing about the exploding Avon tyre demonstration and other things. It was a wonderful 60 mins!! IN the end though, I couldn't make the maths work.

Strider

165 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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There are two ways of doing this: raise lots of capital as an EV bubble company, reverse into a SPAC and become immensely wealthy without building any cars; or, make some cars, discover how expensive it is to operate a low volume car business, lose a small fortune.

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

41 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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romac said:
I did this too. I was wondering if middle-aged Bristol was runnable as a company car. Mr Tony Crooks took me to the underground carpark to see a slightly tired 603 with 100k on the clock. He said that it wasn't worth buying one in good, low mileage condition to then put 25-30k on a year. Charming honesty. I got him reminiscing about the exploding Avon tyre demonstration and other things. It was a wonderful 60 mins!! IN the end though, I couldn't make the maths work.
If Bristol had stuck to the Crook model they'd still be plodding on.

A couple of new cars a year to someone who just fancies the idea and plenty of classics and restoration work.

The fighter killed them, which was a shame.
Although I do wonder if the owner hadn't got divorced from Joe Lewis's daughter if they'd still be trucking on.


SJMW

40 posts

99 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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Fighter was a shocker. Leaked. Had to be hand ‘fettled’ for the bits to fit (grinding down the rear screen anyone?) and Bristol lied about the number they’d actually made. Good luck in resurrecting it

If I wanted a Yank engined retro mobile WHG wouldn’t I buy a concours Bristol 410/411, Jensen Interceptor or CV-8?

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
I see a new thread title winging its way to PH anytime soon.

"New Bristols under wraps"
Set the Bristols free!

Lester H

2,739 posts

106 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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SJMW said:
Fighter was a shocker. Leaked. Had to be hand ‘fettled’ for the bits to fit (grinding down the rear screen anyone?) and Bristol lied about the number they’d actually made. Good luck in resurrecting it

If I wanted a Yank engined retro mobile WHG wouldn’t I buy a concours Bristol 410/411, Jensen Interceptor or CV-8?
Why not just have done with it and buy a Ford Pilot.

Lester H

2,739 posts

106 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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Promsuit1 said:
who wants to buy an extremely expensive updated Bristol fighter.... not many... nobody knows what it is.. it’s an irrelevant car in a world of much nicer cars that can be bought for obviously a lot less.

most of the Bristol enthusiasts (including those that can afford it) will be dead soon surely
Liam Gallagher and Paul Smith far from old, Tina Turner less so.