Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 19]

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bolidemichael

13,900 posts

202 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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An S211 E500 with 180k miles and located in East Sussex.

I'm not quite sure what to make of it, or the seller, tbh. Silver with black alloys and a black interior is an unappealing aesthetic combo for me whilst the 'I'm an enthusiast' plus 'the errors don't bother me' plus the 'don't really need to sell' narrative is a little unconvincing, certainly with the lurid descriptions of the car as 'The Beast'. It has had the rear mufflers removed, which is interpreted as a growl but from personal experience is a deeply unappealing drone within the cabin at motorway cruising speeds, coupled with a loss in power.

EDIT: I wonder whether the seller will pop up as per the ML63 a few months ago and give me scorn the benefit of his feedback.

StonedRollin

1,674 posts

211 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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bolidemichael said:
An S211 E500 with 180k miles and located in East Sussex.

I'm not quite sure what to make of it, or the seller, tbh. Silver with black alloys and a black interior is an unappealing aesthetic combo for me whilst the 'I'm an enthusiast' plus 'the errors don't bother me' plus the 'don't really need to sell' narrative is a little unconvincing, certainly with the lurid descriptions of the car as 'The Beast'. It has had the rear mufflers removed, which is interpreted as a growl but from personal experience is a deeply unappealing drone within the cabin at motorway cruising speeds, coupled with a loss in power.

EDIT: I wonder whether the seller will pop up as per the ML63 a few months ago and give me scorn the benefit of his feedback.
I wouldn't go anywhere near that seller if he was selling the last barge on this planet

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,100 posts

213 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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StonedRollin said:
bolidemichael said:
An S211 E500 with 180k miles and located in East Sussex.

I'm not quite sure what to make of it, or the seller, tbh. Silver with black alloys and a black interior is an unappealing aesthetic combo for me whilst the 'I'm an enthusiast' plus 'the errors don't bother me' plus the 'don't really need to sell' narrative is a little unconvincing, certainly with the lurid descriptions of the car as 'The Beast'. It has had the rear mufflers removed, which is interpreted as a growl but from personal experience is a deeply unappealing drone within the cabin at motorway cruising speeds, coupled with a loss in power.

EDIT: I wonder whether the seller will pop up as per the ML63 a few months ago and give me scorn the benefit of his feedback.
I wouldn't go anywhere near that seller if he was selling the last barge on this planet
Yep, wouldn't buy from that buyer.

Always cared for etc etc.... But it has some faults rolleyes

CharlesdeGaulle

26,304 posts

181 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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StonedRollin said:
bolidemichael said:
An S211 E500 with 180k miles and located in East Sussex.

I'm not quite sure what to make of it, or the seller, tbh. Silver with black alloys and a black interior is an unappealing aesthetic combo for me whilst the 'I'm an enthusiast' plus 'the errors don't bother me' plus the 'don't really need to sell' narrative is a little unconvincing, certainly with the lurid descriptions of the car as 'The Beast'. It has had the rear mufflers removed, which is interpreted as a growl but from personal experience is a deeply unappealing drone within the cabin at motorway cruising speeds, coupled with a loss in power.

EDIT: I wonder whether the seller will pop up as per the ML63 a few months ago and give me scorn the benefit of his feedback.
I wouldn't go anywhere near that seller if he was selling the last barge on this planet
What a plonker:

'...an E500 V8 Estate called 'The Beast' as it is completely ruthless...'

People that give names, nicknames or any other human characteristics to their cars deserve all possible ridicule.


TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,100 posts

213 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
What a plonker:

'...an E500 V8 Estate called 'The Beast' as it is completely ruthless...'

People that give names, nicknames or any other human characteristics to their cars deserve all possible ridicule.
"it goes with no respect for anyone" aka "I drive it like a complete tosser".

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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j4ck100 said:
Stegel said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
j4ck100 said:
Front near side shock required on the CL

Is that a traditional strut one might find at ones local motor factors, or a special order air strut from Hamburg that needs a skilled programmer to install and requires remortgaging one's residence to pay for it?
Do you mean CL, or are you referring to the CLS above that needs one? I'm not sure either way, but that CLS is so cheap it makes you wonder!
Sorry yes CLS - good to know!

Must be the CLS as it’s mentioned in the ad.

It has Airmatic, as it’s a 500, so either MB or Bilstein if you wish to retain all the functions; the fronts are quite straightforward compared to the rears which need the subframe dropped. You can “dumb the system down” by fitting Arnott units which are cheaper and remove the variable settings.
Bit late to the party, had a busy weekend and Monday, but did a threadist tell us not that long ago that the issue wasn't just the price of the genuine strut but the availability - i.e. they couldn't get hold of one in a reasonable timeframe so was forced to go aftermarket? Or did I dream it?

BenjiA

300 posts

211 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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Apologies, not forecourt shot, and will be devisive in here, but for £3.995, I had to push the button due to dog carrying needs



Non turbo 340 bhp V8 - 109k miles; probable wallet disaster incoming.

I think we all agree the PORSCHE script needs to go down the side, or is that in any way acceptably naff?

I started a thread as I can see a saga unfolding...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

bolidemichael

13,900 posts

202 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
StonedRollin said:
bolidemichael said:
An S211 E500 with 180k miles and located in East Sussex.

I'm not quite sure what to make of it, or the seller, tbh. Silver with black alloys and a black interior is an unappealing aesthetic combo for me whilst the 'I'm an enthusiast' plus 'the errors don't bother me' plus the 'don't really need to sell' narrative is a little unconvincing, certainly with the lurid descriptions of the car as 'The Beast'. It has had the rear mufflers removed, which is interpreted as a growl but from personal experience is a deeply unappealing drone within the cabin at motorway cruising speeds, coupled with a loss in power.

EDIT: I wonder whether the seller will pop up as per the ML63 a few months ago and give me scorn the benefit of his feedback.
I wouldn't go anywhere near that seller if he was selling the last barge on this planet
What a plonker:

'...an E500 V8 Estate called 'The Beast' as it is completely ruthless...'

People that give names, nicknames or any other human characteristics to their cars deserve all possible ridicule.
Magnus has been vicariously targeted by your diktat. Sniff.

bolidemichael

13,900 posts

202 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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BenjiA said:
Apologies, not forecourt shot, and will be devisive in here, but for £3.995, I had to push the button due to dog carrying needs



Non turbo 340 bhp V8 - 109k miles; probable wallet disaster incoming.

I think we all agree the PORSCHE script needs to go down the side, or is that in any way acceptably naff?

I started a thread as I can see a saga unfolding...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Nice one! I'm watching the thread for much borkness, it's like watching motorsport with these big barges!

Stegel

1,955 posts

175 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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Emeye said:
j4ck100 said:
Stegel said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
j4ck100 said:
Front near side shock required on the CL

Is that a traditional strut one might find at ones local motor factors, or a special order air strut from Hamburg that needs a skilled programmer to install and requires remortgaging one's residence to pay for it?
Do you mean CL, or are you referring to the CLS above that needs one? I'm not sure either way, but that CLS is so cheap it makes you wonder!
Sorry yes CLS - good to know!

Must be the CLS as it’s mentioned in the ad.

It has Airmatic, as it’s a 500, so either MB or Bilstein if you wish to retain all the functions; the fronts are quite straightforward compared to the rears which need the subframe dropped. You can “dumb the system down” by fitting Arnott units which are cheaper and remove the variable settings.
Bit late to the party, had a busy weekend and Monday, but did a threadist tell us not that long ago that the issue wasn't just the price of the genuine strut but the availability - i.e. they couldn't get hold of one in a reasonable timeframe so was forced to go aftermarket? Or did I dream it?
For my car’s (which is, and always will be, nameless, despite referring to it as a unicorn!) suspension repair / refresh MB quoted front and rear units as ex stock from Germany. The rears were bought from MB as the deposit returned on the old units made them more competitive than Autodoc, and they took about a week to arrive. The Arnott front units were ineligible for return to MB, obviously, so Bilstein units (Bilstein make them for MB) from Autodoc were cheaper and purchased, about 10 days delivery.



bolidemichael

13,900 posts

202 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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Stegel said:
Emeye said:
j4ck100 said:
Stegel said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
j4ck100 said:
Front near side shock required on the CL

Is that a traditional strut one might find at ones local motor factors, or a special order air strut from Hamburg that needs a skilled programmer to install and requires remortgaging one's residence to pay for it?
Do you mean CL, or are you referring to the CLS above that needs one? I'm not sure either way, but that CLS is so cheap it makes you wonder!
Sorry yes CLS - good to know!

Must be the CLS as it’s mentioned in the ad.

It has Airmatic, as it’s a 500, so either MB or Bilstein if you wish to retain all the functions; the fronts are quite straightforward compared to the rears which need the subframe dropped. You can “dumb the system down” by fitting Arnott units which are cheaper and remove the variable settings.
Bit late to the party, had a busy weekend and Monday, but did a threadist tell us not that long ago that the issue wasn't just the price of the genuine strut but the availability - i.e. they couldn't get hold of one in a reasonable timeframe so was forced to go aftermarket? Or did I dream it?
For my car’s (which is, and always will be, nameless, despite referring to it as a unicorn!) suspension repair / refresh MB quoted front and rear units as ex stock from Germany. The rears were bought from MB as the deposit returned on the old units made them more competitive than Autodoc, and they took about a week to arrive. The Arnott front units were ineligible for return to MB, obviously, so Bilstein units (Bilstein make them for MB) from Autodoc were cheaper and purchased, about 10 days delivery.
So it was all a dream, then?

Stegel

1,955 posts

175 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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bolidemichael said:
So it was all a dream, then?
Potentially, or it could be my 7/10 day timeframe was unacceptable against a next day from eBay? (I think I’m now remembering the dream - was it a car incapacitated on a garage ramp and time being of the essence, hence the Hobson’s choice?)

J_Wood3

27 posts

98 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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bolidemichael][url said:
An S211 E500 with 180k miles and located in East Sussex.
Yikes! A chunky starting price for that mess. Apart from the bodywork, mileage and wheels. SBC is failing and the engine appears to have fallen over.

You’d spend that price again fixing it if you did it yourself. I suppose someone with zero mechanical sympathy could run it into the ground, but that’s an expensive way to own a V8….

bolidemichael

13,900 posts

202 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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Stegel said:
bolidemichael said:
So it was all a dream, then?
Potentially, or it could be my 7/10 day timeframe was unacceptable against a next day from eBay? (I think I’m now remembering the dream - was it a car incapacitated on a garage ramp and time being of the essence, hence the Hobson’s choice?)
I was referring to Emeye's comment... laugh

W00DY

15,493 posts

227 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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BenjiA said:
Apologies, not forecourt shot, and will be devisive in here, but for £3.995, I had to push the button due to dog carrying needs



Non turbo 340 bhp V8 - 109k miles; probable wallet disaster incoming.

I think we all agree the PORSCHE script needs to go down the side, or is that in any way acceptably naff?

I started a thread as I can see a saga unfolding...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Brave. I like it.

Will be watching with interest.

Stegel

1,955 posts

175 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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bolidemichael said:
Stegel said:
bolidemichael said:
So it was all a dream, then?
Potentially, or it could be my 7/10 day timeframe was unacceptable against a next day from eBay? (I think I’m now remembering the dream - was it a car incapacitated on a garage ramp and time being of the essence, hence the Hobson’s choice?)
I was referring to Emeye's comment... laugh
So was I! spin

d_a_n1979

8,448 posts

73 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Always cared for etc etc.... But it has some faults rolleyes
Haha; yeah ok...

So if it was well cared for; why does it have faults?

I'm sure we all know he means to say it hasn't been well cared for; he's just bullstting his way into a sale laugh

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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Stegel said:
bolidemichael said:
Stegel said:
bolidemichael said:
So it was all a dream, then?
Potentially, or it could be my 7/10 day timeframe was unacceptable against a next day from eBay? (I think I’m now remembering the dream - was it a car incapacitated on a garage ramp and time being of the essence, hence the Hobson’s choice?)
I was referring to Emeye's comment... laugh
So was I! spin
I AM SO CONFUSED RIGHT NOW! confused

kevinon

814 posts

61 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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BenjiA said:
Apologies, not forecourt shot, and will be devisive in here, but for £3.995, I had to push the button due to dog carrying needs



Non turbo 340 bhp V8 - 109k miles; probable wallet disaster incoming.

I think we all agree the PORSCHE script needs to go down the side, or is that in any way acceptably naff?

I started a thread as I can see a saga unfolding...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Exciting to see a car I'd like, but which frightens me in greater measure as a thread subject. Fair play @BenjiA - hope it's a great experience, and I'll be following the dedicated thread.

CoolHands

18,686 posts

196 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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BenjiA said:
£3.995,



probable wallet disaster incoming.
biggrin we all thank you for our entertainment
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