RE: Toyota reveals all-new Land Cruiser 300

RE: Toyota reveals all-new Land Cruiser 300

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Pusikurac

121 posts

41 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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You people endlessly complain about the new BMWs, and yet somehow this is OK? It is terrible. Boxy, and not in a good way, with horrible proportions. (where is the puke emoji?)

CoolHands

18,701 posts

196 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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I think it’s exceeding bmw levels of ugliness

MattsCar

988 posts

106 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Pusikurac said:
You people endlessly complain about the new BMWs, and yet somehow this is OK? It is terrible. Boxy, and not in a good way, with horrible proportions. (where is the puke emoji?)
But...compared to BMW's this is a utilitarian car with one purpose...to go off road and be good at it. The design is an after thought and is not a selling point. It is not a pose mobile and that probably dictated where the budget went. Flat, boxy panel design with minimal creases is cheaper to manufacture.

GoodCompany

306 posts

64 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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MattsCar said:
But...compared to BMW's this is a utilitarian car with one purpose...to go off road and be good at it. The design is an after thought and is not a selling point. It is not a pose mobile and that probably dictated where the budget went. Flat, boxy panel design with minimal creases is cheaper to manufacture.
So why does it have a billboard sized chrome grille, fake exhausts and pillbox windows?

DoctorX

7,306 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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sidesauce said:
Venturist said:
Crikey that’s a bit of a fridge isn’t it.
Very cool?
I agree with both. It fking ugly but, at the same time, appealing.

MattsCar

988 posts

106 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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GoodCompany said:
So why does it have a billboard sized chrome grille, fake exhausts and pillbox windows?
Pill box windows... Probably safety legislature.

Big Chrome grille...probably does not cost much more in the manufacture process same as exhaust trim.

They have to jazz it up a little bit.


Edited by MattsCar on Wednesday 9th June 23:49

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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This isn't being sold in the USA either. Who's actually going to buy it?!

Titan2

150 posts

97 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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jon- said:
This isn't being sold in the USA either. Who's actually going to buy it?!
I'd imagine the big buyers of something like this will be the Middle East and the UN.

wisbech

2,981 posts

122 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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jon- said:
This isn't being sold in the USA either. Who's actually going to buy it?!
Australians... They sold 25,000 of the outgoing model in 2020 here! 5th best selling vehicle. I can see this one selling 30,000 a year easily.



wisbech

2,981 posts

122 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Looks like the UN spec entry model is less Lexus bling...


Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

37 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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jon- said:
This isn't being sold in the USA either. Who's actually going to buy it?!
People who actually need a 4x4 .

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

37 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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CoolHands said:
I think it’s exceeding bmw levels of ugliness
Have you seen the current offerings from Land Rover ?
At least this looks like a 4x4 And without doubt will be capable and not that it matters to your average Land Rover buyer , reliable!!

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Ivan stewart said:
jon- said:
This isn't being sold in the USA either. Who's actually going to buy it?!
People who actually need a 4x4 .
Large parts of the US is pretty offroad. I'm currently in Utah where you can do epic offroad trails pretty much anywhere for free.

Number9

91 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Out of the box this is certainly pretty ugly. But most people who use them properly don’t leave them in that state. In Oz, where they are ridiculously popular, it’s not uncommon for them to be driven straight from the dealers to an aftermarket company (often ARB) to get better suspension, wheels, lift kits, wheel carriers, winches, snorkels etc etc. Then they look good and function like nothing else. If you want one vehicle to handle anything (except a race track), the Landcruiser is it

Number9

91 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Mapt

18 posts

51 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Ivan stewart said:
CoolHands said:
I think it’s exceeding bmw levels of ugliness
Have you seen the current offerings from Land Rover ?
At least this looks like a 4x4 And without doubt will be capable and not that it matters to your average Land Rover buyer , reliable!!
What are you on about? The entire LR/RR range are really good looking vehicles, if you perhaps ignore the offset rear plate on the Discovery. The blacked-out Defender near me is a well-judged mix of rugged and premium.

oilit

2,634 posts

179 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Ivan stewart said:
jon- said:
This isn't being sold in the USA either. Who's actually going to buy it?!
People who actually need a 4x4 .
Africa, Australia, Asia,Russia, Middle East - essentially big countries with loads of desert or farmland and places where militant groups operate - after all Toyota seemed to be the weapon of choice with the Taliban etc. getmecoat

Jader1973

4,016 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Number9 said:
Out of the box this is certainly pretty ugly. But most people who use them properly don’t leave them in that state. In Oz, where they are ridiculously popular, it’s not uncommon for them to be driven straight from the dealers to an aftermarket company (often ARB) to get better suspension, wheels, lift kits, wheel carriers, winches, snorkels etc etc. Then they look good and function like nothing else. If you want one vehicle to handle anything (except a race track), the Landcruiser is it
The current one is incredibly capable out of the box. I did a tour of Fraser Island in one - stock standard, even (mismatched) road tyres and it was unstoppable.

The only issue with the new one may be no V8 - prices of current shape V8s are climbing in Australia.

1781cc

578 posts

95 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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As aerodynamically efficient as a Regus building on wheels

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

37 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Mapt said:
What are you on about? The entire LR/RR range are really good looking vehicles, if you perhaps ignore the offset rear plate on the Discovery. The blacked-out Defender near me is a well-judged mix of rugged and premium.
If you think a 4x4 should look like a bloated car!!
Yes the defender is ok ish. Looking but you wouldn’t want one if there wasn’t a dealer and tarmac in between!!