RE: Tesla confirms Model S Plaid performance

[Terminator X]

Even as a serial EV hater I still have to dof my cap at such a mental 0-60 and QM time

TX.

[Terminator X]

Augustus Windsock said:

I applaud performance in general, I really do, but I have to ask what that 0-60 time would be like for people who aren’t used to F1 / BTCC / drag cars? As in, will they be able to control the car competently when they deploy the full force of the car?
Plus other toad cars will be going much more slowly so what are the odds of hitting one in front of you or just the plain facts that just because the car has got insanely fast the road infrastructure hasn’t changed to accommodate it
But I’ll still celebrate the fact that such a thing is going to be built, that is until Greta and her tree-huggers decide to turn their attention to EVs and say they are the worst things to happen since...ICE cars.

You heard it here first + when we get to Zero Carbon and it makes fk all difference we will then need Negative Carbon of course.

TX.

[JD]

off_again said:

I know, I am splitting hairs here.... but it concerns me that they are pushing a figure that isnt quite correct.

Concerns me more that on a motoring forum, people don't understand that it is the industry standard way of measuring 0-60 in the USA, used by all the magazines etc.

[off_again]

ZX10R NIN said:

How many launches can you do before range becomes an issue, outstanding performance but the rest of the drive won't be involving.

And thats the problem - its a bit of a one-trick-pony. For 99% of the other time you use the car, it better be good.

Performance is beyond the 0-60 sprint and 1/4 mile time. But is it a luxury car? Who knows. I will reserve judgement on the interior, since its updated and changed, but if you take the previous version, the Model S isnt a $140k luxury car! I wonder where it will fit, but its a niche of a niche at the moment.

[pSyCoSiS]

Those stats and mind-bogglingly insane.

I had a passenger ride in a Tesla for the first time last weekend. It was a brand new Model 3, the mid-range one, not the quickest.

I was impressed with the ride, inside it had lots of space due to lack of engine up front and fuel tank at the rear. The technology was amazing as was the sound system.

The performance actually blew me away. How instant the get up and go was, at any speed you floor it, it's gone.

I don't like the idea of having to look left to check your speed and stats - it needs a dash area display like the Model S has.

Otherwise, along with the charging network, it is a very competent car with decent range.

[Gweeds]

Ludicrously fast. Utterly pointless.

Imagine if Musk put his efforts into developing cars that actually make sense.

[pacdes]

Yawn.

[redroadster]

People who are not impressed that a saloon car can blow away million pound hypercars for a tenth of the money still want an apple and orange for Christmas.

[NicG]

What would be properly impressive if Tesla sold a car that the masses could genuinely afford (sub £20k). That would be far more meaningful than this pointlessly fast Model S.

[David87]

Gweeds said:

Ludicrously fast. Utterly pointless.

Imagine if Musk put his efforts into developing cars that actually make sense.

You can find the Model 3 at your local Tesla centre.

[Wills2]

JD said:

Concerns me more that on a motoring forum, people don't understand that it is the industry standard way of measuring 0-60 in the USA, used by all the magazines etc.

Nothing to be "concerned" about (are you really?) it's a UK based forum we don't use it here or in Europe our benchmark these days is 62mph the Tesla test is effectively a 0-57mph number, and there is zero reason for it to be widely known in the UK.

2.2, 2.5 or 2.7 seconds makes no odds as you're only as quick as the berlingo in front of you...utterly meaningless performance

[BlackandWhite]

And none of those are the most incredible, either, as that might be the 200mph top speed. Yes, a Nevera now goes 258mph, but for an EV saloon to come from the factory capable of the double ton is remarkable. No matter how much you pay Audi, Mercedes-AMG, or BMW, none of its V8 'bahnstormers can do that.

Incredible, yes. A Nevera never a ever does 258mph and this won’t ever do 200mph either. The speed limit is 70mph and that’s that I’m afraid. Ecological egotistical willy waggling with or without feed back. Feel free. Not for me. Your hundred plus grand buys you jail time, a spot on the evening news and the hatred of a safety conscious nation. Bon chance.

[smilo996]

typically dull and lowest common denominator sales proposition from the Cousins. Fast in a straight line.
It looks as dull as, the interior looks like Fisher Price designed it and handling looks iffy. Hopefully they will be a thing of the past soon. Anyone can make a fast electric car, the trick is to make it both fast and handle.

[NDNDNDND]

Oh yeah, I just remembered about the 'no gear selector' thing. Did that actually happen? Is the plaid actually going to guess whether you need to go forwards or backwards?

Little wonder the share price is looking a bit flat...

[JD]

Wills2 said:

Nothing to be "concerned" about (are you really?) it's a UK based forum we don't use it here or in Europe our benchmark these days is 62mph the Tesla test is effectively a 0-57mph number, and there is zero reason for it to be widely known in the UK.

Probably similar level of concern that the poster (from the USA) expressed about Tesla trying to mislead the public by using the industry standard measurement method for the country that the car is made.

[Nik Gnashers]

BlackandWhite said:

And none of those are the most incredible, either, as that might be the 200mph top speed. Yes, a Nevera now goes 258mph, but for an EV saloon to come from the factory capable of the double ton is remarkable. No matter how much you pay Audi, Mercedes-AMG, or BMW, none of its V8 'bahnstormers can do that.

Incredible, yes. A Nevera never a ever does 258mph and this won’t ever do 200mph either. The speed limit is 70mph and that’s that I’m afraid. Ecological egotistical willy waggling with or without feed back. Feel free. Not for me. Your hundred plus grand buys you jail time, a spot on the evening news and the hatred of a safety conscious nation. Bon chance.

There is a video of a tuned M140i on youtube, doing 329kph (204mph).
That is a 1 series, so I'm quite sure many of the other fast BMW's, Audi's, and Mercs can all do 200+ mph delimited.

[otolith]

Wills2 said:

2.2, 2.5 or 2.7 seconds makes no odds as you're only as quick as the berlingo in front of you...utterly meaningless performance

Your garage appears to list a lot of cars which are also faster than a Berlingo?

[otolith]

smilo996 said:

typically dull and lowest common denominator sales proposition from the Cousins. Fast in a straight line.
It looks as dull as, the interior looks like Fisher Price designed it and handling looks iffy. Hopefully they will be a thing of the past soon. Anyone can make a fast electric car, the trick is to make it both fast and handle.

So you were disappointed with the handling of the plaid when you drove it?

[off_again]

Nik Gnashers said:

BlackandWhite said:

And none of those are the most incredible, either, as that might be the 200mph top speed. Yes, a Nevera now goes 258mph, but for an EV saloon to come from the factory capable of the double ton is remarkable. No matter how much you pay Audi, Mercedes-AMG, or BMW, none of its V8 'bahnstormers can do that.

Incredible, yes. A Nevera never a ever does 258mph and this won’t ever do 200mph either. The speed limit is 70mph and that’s that I’m afraid. Ecological egotistical willy waggling with or without feed back. Feel free. Not for me. Your hundred plus grand buys you jail time, a spot on the evening news and the hatred of a safety conscious nation. Bon chance.

There is a video of a tuned M140i on youtube, doing 329kph (204mph).
That is a 1 series, so I'm quite sure many of the other fast BMW's, Audi's, and Mercs can all do 200+ mph delimited.

A C63S with the limit removed (option) is supposed to be a 186MPH car, and most of the other super-saloon models from the Germans will hit 200 with their limiters removed. Its an impressive number, but to be honest, people stopped chasing it a while ago. Its a power limited thing - once you get over 600 BHP, hitting 200MPH with a relatively slippery modern car is fairly easy.

I am actually pleased that we stopped worrying about hitting 200MPH. Even on the autobahns, its a challenge to hit... pretty meaningless.

[GT911]

otolith said:

smilo996 said:

typically dull and lowest common denominator sales proposition from the Cousins. Fast in a straight line.
It looks as dull as, the interior looks like Fisher Price designed it and handling looks iffy. Hopefully they will be a thing of the past soon. Anyone can make a fast electric car, the trick is to make it both fast and handle.

So you were disappointed with the handling of the plaid when you drove it?

The kicking and squealing from the Luddites on this thread is hilarious. It seems it's not possible to make an EV a good handling car, apparently it's only possible with a large lump of iron at one end of the chassis, a unique law of physics, or something.