Tyres - How important are they to you
Discussion
mmm-five said:
You may want to re-read what those ratings on tyre labels mean.
An 'A' for wet grip, is a bit of a misnomer, as it's purely wet braking. There is no straight/aquaplane, curved aquaplane, nor wet handling test involved.
So a dozen tyres could all have an 'A' for wet grip, but some may be better in aquaplaning scenarios, and one tyre might have an 'A' rating, but take 2.4m further to stop than another tyre with the same 'A' rating.
It's a minefield, but it's the best, simplest, official label we've got for the moment
Indeed, but I will also go onto some tyre review sites, I recall the ADAC site too and compare shortlisted tyres against each other. An 'A' for wet grip, is a bit of a misnomer, as it's purely wet braking. There is no straight/aquaplane, curved aquaplane, nor wet handling test involved.
So a dozen tyres could all have an 'A' for wet grip, but some may be better in aquaplaning scenarios, and one tyre might have an 'A' rating, but take 2.4m further to stop than another tyre with the same 'A' rating.
It's a minefield, but it's the best, simplest, official label we've got for the moment
There’s usually always a bit of a trade off somewhere, one will be slightly quieter for example but the other lasts longer or something, but as I recall they do expand further on wet and dry performance. Takes a bit of effort and goes more in-depth than the basic A/B/C ratings etc., but I’ve always been pleased with the tyres I’ve ended up choosing, worthwhile exercise.
But then some folk just choose the cheapest and only replace one at a time!
Depends on the car …
A previous Mazda 3, I was happy with a mid-range tyre such as Avon.
My current mx5 gets what is OEM
My Jimny has Yokohama Geolanders, but I would be happy if there was a mid range tyre similar.
Budget tyres I did once (only because I was trading the car in soon, but they needed replacing) and nearly came a cropper taking a bend I took every day at the same speed (and no, I wasn’t driving like an idiot).
Never again.
A previous Mazda 3, I was happy with a mid-range tyre such as Avon.
My current mx5 gets what is OEM
My Jimny has Yokohama Geolanders, but I would be happy if there was a mid range tyre similar.
Budget tyres I did once (only because I was trading the car in soon, but they needed replacing) and nearly came a cropper taking a bend I took every day at the same speed (and no, I wasn’t driving like an idiot).
Never again.
Dave Hedgehog said:
Tye Green said:
no-one seems to have any evidence that expensive brands are any 'better' than cheaper brands (or please publish it if you have!
have you had your head in the sand, even for someone who drives sensibly at the limit the difference between a good tyre and a cheap one is monumental, in this test its 18m additional stopping distance in the wet which would be the difference between stopping and killing the kid or a major impactsame goes for emergency avoidance in the wet and aquaplanning
and these results all get worse as the tyre wears
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Auto-Bild...
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Tyre-Revi...
I think the expensive tyre = best, cheap tyre = worst is overly simplistic. Different tyres suit different cars, driving styles, and weather. There are good cheap tyres and poor expensive tyres, just like there are great expensive tyres and dreadful cheap tyres.
Edited by Mave on Friday 11th June 19:26
In response to people saying their tyres get worse as they wear down, Michelin did an article saying in the dry, their tyres performed the best with less tread. Amazingly it recommended reconsidering the ‘best safety advice’ 3mm tread depth change point, saying going down to 1.6mm will ensure you experience the best dry weather performance the tyre had to offer. I suppose it isn’t bad advice if you have a weekend toy that mainly comes out in good weather.
I guess a caveat is the tyre hasn’t lost its plasticisers due to being 10 years old etc.
I guess a caveat is the tyre hasn’t lost its plasticisers due to being 10 years old etc.
Countdown said:
Just had a quick google for tyres for my car and the prices are as follows;
Bridgestone. £128
Hankook £135
Goodyear £137
Continental £163
Pirelli £253
Where is the dividing line between premium/budget? Is the Pirelli worth twice the price of the Bridgestone?
Think you need to define which type/model of tyre from each manufacturer. Bridgestone. £128
Hankook £135
Goodyear £137
Continental £163
Pirelli £253
Where is the dividing line between premium/budget? Is the Pirelli worth twice the price of the Bridgestone?
Zarco said:
Countdown said:
Just had a quick google for tyres for my car and the prices are as follows;
Bridgestone. £128
Hankook £135
Goodyear £137
Continental £163
Pirelli £253
Where is the dividing line between premium/budget? Is the Pirelli worth twice the price of the Bridgestone?
Think you need to define which type/model of tyre from each manufacturer. Bridgestone. £128
Hankook £135
Goodyear £137
Continental £163
Pirelli £253
Where is the dividing line between premium/budget? Is the Pirelli worth twice the price of the Bridgestone?
Zarco said:
Pica-Pica said:
Zarco said:
I'm a Michelin Man. Always premium.
Hello, Bibendum.
I will clarify I've never really run a commuter/normal car. Usually it's a French hot hatch so see no point in not putting decent rubber on it .
Pica-Pica said:
Zarco said:
Pica-Pica said:
Zarco said:
I'm a Michelin Man. Always premium.
Hello, Bibendum.I will clarify I've never really run a commuter/normal car. Usually it's a French hot hatch so see no point in not putting decent rubber on it .
As I said above, depends which tyre in the range.
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