RE: Toyota GT86 TRD | Spotted
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As well as signing off the Max Power bumper design, it's amazing that the Marketing dept allowed the TRD acronym - as many of you have commented, it has amusing connotations which make it not only hard to polish but also rather unpleasant underfoot.
Several decades ago, Citroën faced the same situation as many of their diesel models (AX, BX, CX etc) were badged TRD on the continent. When imported to the UK, they changed the nomenclature subtly to DTR and thus avoided the sniggers.
Anyway, this GT86 looks better than a standard one to my eyes, notably due to the wheels and (I'm ashamed to admit) the bumpers and exhausts. Holding its value well too.
Several decades ago, Citroën faced the same situation as many of their diesel models (AX, BX, CX etc) were badged TRD on the continent. When imported to the UK, they changed the nomenclature subtly to DTR and thus avoided the sniggers.
Anyway, this GT86 looks better than a standard one to my eyes, notably due to the wheels and (I'm ashamed to admit) the bumpers and exhausts. Holding its value well too.
At one point I had 3 different Japanese coupes on my drive, still have 1, and should be the target for this...but it just doesn't do anything well enough to either make itself practical enough for a daily, fast enough for track, or fun enough for weekends, is falls between the cracks for me as a car that doesn't excel at anything to make it worth buying 
Scottie - NW said:
At one point I had 3 different Japanese coupes on my drive, still have 1, and should be the target for this...but it just doesn't do anything well enough to either make itself practical enough for a daily, fast enough for track, or fun enough for weekends, is falls between the cracks for me as a car that doesn't excel at anything to make it worth buying
this is kind of true. Though I'm not sure what car meets your 3 criteria? I'm a big fan of the 86 even though I'm fully aware of its limitations. I'm a little odd in that I do have a garage slot for a fun, old school rwd car that has a little bit of practicality. It's definitely not an Elise and not a GT car, and nor is it that practical. there's a small Venn diagram intersection that works for me. Thankfully I don't have to tolerate a gti shopping trolley, as if I needed any more practicality that's what I'd probably have, with the compromises that come with those.Frog02 said:
As well as signing off the Max Power bumper design, it's amazing that the Marketing dept allowed the TRD acronym - as many of you have commented, it has amusing connotations which make it not only hard to polish but also rather unpleasant underfoot.
Several decades ago, Citroën faced the same situation as many of their diesel models (AX, BX, CX etc) were badged TRD on the continent. When imported to the UK, they changed the nomenclature subtly to DTR and thus avoided the sniggers.
Anyway, this GT86 looks better than a standard one to my eyes, notably due to the wheels and (I'm ashamed to admit) the bumpers and exhausts. Holding its value well too.
Several decades ago, Citroën faced the same situation as many of their diesel models (AX, BX, CX etc) were badged TRD on the continent. When imported to the UK, they changed the nomenclature subtly to DTR and thus avoided the sniggers.
Anyway, this GT86 looks better than a standard one to my eyes, notably due to the wheels and (I'm ashamed to admit) the bumpers and exhausts. Holding its value well too.
Toyota Racing Developments have been around for 70 odd years operating around the world competing in many different forms of motorsport so I suspect their brand logo is fairly recognisable but not for the reason you think.
On the other hand Citroen Ax/Bx/Cx diesel models with TRD model designations came out in the late 70s to 80s. To be honest I'm not surprised the French were concerned that English speaking people would call the cars turds..
Using similar logic have the Audi marketing department messed up with SLIME S-Line.
I know I am going to sound like such a bore saying this, but oh well. I think these things look great, and they are no doubt fun to drive. But I just can't get away from the fact that they, especially in this TRD guise, with the additional bodykit and enormous brakes, look like should do the 0-60 sprint in far less than 7.6 seconds.
Again, I know that the fun is to be had in the corners, but owning something like that whilst knowing that you can get out-accelerated on dual carriageways and motorway slip roads by most diesel hatchbacks would always play on my mind.
Again, I know that the fun is to be had in the corners, but owning something like that whilst knowing that you can get out-accelerated on dual carriageways and motorway slip roads by most diesel hatchbacks would always play on my mind.
jwwbowe said:
Quad exhausts on a car with 200hp & 151lbft
Manic Street Sleeper said:
A classic case of a car that is writing cheques that its engine can't cash.
I've often thought similar to you two as well, but I think that these are supposed to be all about the corners and having fun at a slower pace. A car that looks sporty but doesn't perform all that sporty if you like, a bit like the MX-5 in many ways I think. When I was younger I always wanted the fastest car that I could afford, but now I'm getting on a bit...I can certainly appreciate cars like this and the MX-5 now though. I keep seeing MX-5s out and about in this nice sunny weather and it makes me really fancy one.
CABC said:
this is kind of true. Though I'm not sure what car meets your 3 criteria? I'm a big fan of the 86 even though I'm fully aware of its limitations. I'm a little odd in that I do have a garage slot for a fun, old school rwd car that has a little bit of practicality. It's definitely not an Elise and not a GT car, and nor is it that practical. there's a small Venn diagram intersection that works for me. Thankfully I don't have to tolerate a gti shopping trolley, as if I needed any more practicality that's what I'd probably have, with the compromises that come with those.
I'd say a BMW F80 M3 strikes a fantastic compromiseAndrew-396pl said:
I'd say a BMW F80 M3 strikes a fantastic compromise
not imo.I'm a big M3 fan, a great car. Still compromised. Scotty wanted daily, track and fun. The M3 majors on daily, the 86 on fun. neither are good track cars, and the later the M3 model the less that is the case. As a single car, yes, the M3 is hard to beat.
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