Microchip shortage slowing car sales
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It should get better as the Renesas factory in Japan returns to full production but they don't have as big a share of the market as some reports suggest.
Chip makers don't really like the auto industry - design cycles are long, product approvals are awkward, they really push the prices down and are not 'nice' customers to deal with. In the great scheme of things, the volumes on any individual model aren't generally that big - can obviously bump up if the same componenets are used on multiple models though.
That's not to say they don't want them as customers, it's just that when there's a queue of customers they're not going to be at the top of the list.
Chip makers don't really like the auto industry - design cycles are long, product approvals are awkward, they really push the prices down and are not 'nice' customers to deal with. In the great scheme of things, the volumes on any individual model aren't generally that big - can obviously bump up if the same componenets are used on multiple models though.
That's not to say they don't want them as customers, it's just that when there's a queue of customers they're not going to be at the top of the list.
Edited by Sheepshanks on Monday 21st June 12:35
BobsPigeon said:
Second hand car prices reflecting this with cars <3yrs old having risen significantly in price over the last 6 months.
Guy I know has just straight swapped his less than 12 month old Octavia VRS for a brand new one. Dealer begging him for the trade. More money in a second hand one than a new one. e-honda said:
shih tzu faced said:
Bloke in the pub told me that Bill Gates is in charge of microchips and they’ve all been put into covid vaccines. Then they’re going to watch us from satellites or something.
The guy in the pub was an idiot, there's no such thing as satellites.How do you orbit around a flat earth ?
eeLee said:
I have the feeling about 1 in 4 people have been cancelling their orders, by the way, because our car is about 4 weeks ahead of schedule and so must have been allocated an earlier build slot.....
That seems a big leap to say 1 in 4.I have been surprised to see a couple of queries in forums about people who've had cars in the last few weeks and found they were built last year - with all the hoo-hah I'm amazed new cars of that age are still kicking around.
I have a BMW on order due for delivery in Week 30 so end of next month, I have very little faith that it will be here, I'm sure the dealer is withholding the bad news from me , if its significantly delayed my plans may well change, so it will bite the dealers even more should they start losing deposits
My company is owned partially by Stellantis so have access to the car scheme, I ordered a car for my wife in early March and its still not had a build allocation, they are also prioritising the retail customers so don't know when I will see it, in the past any car ordered has been 3 to 4 weeks from stock or 6 to 8 for a factory build.
On the other hand I posted in the "used thread" my mate chopped his 2.5 year old Kuga ST Line a few weeks back for a few hundred quid less than he paid for it in Jan '20, that was with WBAC too, they were told they cant get enough of them at the moment.
He also purchased a 2016 basic LWB transporter with 90k on the clock for near on £19k last month, it does have the big wheels and different bumper but still
On the other hand I posted in the "used thread" my mate chopped his 2.5 year old Kuga ST Line a few weeks back for a few hundred quid less than he paid for it in Jan '20, that was with WBAC too, they were told they cant get enough of them at the moment.
He also purchased a 2016 basic LWB transporter with 90k on the clock for near on £19k last month, it does have the big wheels and different bumper but still
Sheepshanks said:
That seems a big leap to say 1 in 4.
I have been surprised to see a couple of queries in forums about people who've had cars in the last few weeks and found they were built last year - with all the hoo-hah I'm amazed new cars of that age are still kicking around.
actually given the length of wait for us being shortened by about one month from 4 to 3 from a production line dedicated for a specific model, I assume it's not far off. I have been surprised to see a couple of queries in forums about people who've had cars in the last few weeks and found they were built last year - with all the hoo-hah I'm amazed new cars of that age are still kicking around.
We needed to replace our old car otherwise we might have held on the order until specced stock became available. To keep our order, BMW offered us a sum around 4x the cost of the missing options to not cancel the order.
I ordered a Defender 90 (hardtop) in April and told June delivery , now been given a date of 19th November. Hoping it doesn't have any options missing but doesn't seem to be much anyone can do...
Dealer said P400s still have no build dates at all.
Dealer said P400s still have no build dates at all.
Edited by edd1e on Tuesday 29th June 20:25
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