Microchip shortage slowing car sales

Microchip shortage slowing car sales

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Sheepshanks

32,806 posts

120 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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It should get better as the Renesas factory in Japan returns to full production but they don't have as big a share of the market as some reports suggest.

Chip makers don't really like the auto industry - design cycles are long, product approvals are awkward, they really push the prices down and are not 'nice' customers to deal with. In the great scheme of things, the volumes on any individual model aren't generally that big - can obviously bump up if the same componenets are used on multiple models though.

That's not to say they don't want them as customers, it's just that when there's a queue of customers they're not going to be at the top of the list.

Edited by Sheepshanks on Monday 21st June 12:35

MDMA .

8,904 posts

102 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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BobsPigeon said:
Second hand car prices reflecting this with cars <3yrs old having risen significantly in price over the last 6 months.
Guy I know has just straight swapped his less than 12 month old Octavia VRS for a brand new one. Dealer begging him for the trade. More money in a second hand one than a new one.

Fat hippo

732 posts

135 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Hoofy said:
king arthur said:
e-honda said:
The guy in the pub was an idiot, there's no such thing as satellites.
How do you orbit around a flat earth ?
Around the edge, duh! That's why you can't see them.
They hide behind the ice wall.
Don’t be silly. The ice wall is patrolled by NASA

eeLee

760 posts

81 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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we have an X3 on order since March and its spec was impacted by this. No adaptive cruise, lane assist, etc. And no ETA on the issue being solved.

you now cannot spec the car with adaptive....

SiH

1,824 posts

248 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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e-honda said:
shih tzu faced said:
Bloke in the pub told me that Bill Gates is in charge of microchips and they’ve all been put into covid vaccines. Then they’re going to watch us from satellites or something.
The guy in the pub was an idiot, there's no such thing as satellites.
How do you orbit around a flat earth ?
For such a short reply that was quite an emotional rollercoaster! biggrin

Fonzo

152 posts

60 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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I ordered an F-Pace last Saturday, estimated delivery is 16/12/2021.

Chris32345

2,086 posts

63 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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e-honda said:
The guy in the pub was an idiot, there's no such thing as satellites.
How do you orbit around a flat earth ?
We are all in the matrix
There's no earth no even a flat one

alorotom

11,948 posts

188 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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Fonzo said:
I ordered an F-Pace last Saturday, estimated delivery is 16/12/2021.
You’re lucky to even be given an indicative

I ordered a Kamiq in mid-March, they advised September delivery, it’s still not even been allocated a build week and they don’t think I’ll have it in 2021.

Chr1sch

2,585 posts

194 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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We’ve got a Defender on order and recently had a letter from JLR saying sorry but we’ve really got no idea when it will be ready. (Or words to that effect)

Total PITA but I guess I’m saving money whilst I wait!

dobly

1,192 posts

160 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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By the time they are delivered they will have been superseded by the new model...

Juanco20

3,214 posts

194 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Really don't understand why anyone is buying relatively new used cars given current prices.

Just get something 10 years old to knock around in until the market settles back down.

eeLee

760 posts

81 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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I have the feeling about 1 in 4 people have been cancelling their orders, by the way, because our car is about 4 weeks ahead of schedule and so must have been allocated an earlier build slot.....

Sheepshanks

32,806 posts

120 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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eeLee said:
I have the feeling about 1 in 4 people have been cancelling their orders, by the way, because our car is about 4 weeks ahead of schedule and so must have been allocated an earlier build slot.....
That seems a big leap to say 1 in 4.


I have been surprised to see a couple of queries in forums about people who've had cars in the last few weeks and found they were built last year - with all the hoo-hah I'm amazed new cars of that age are still kicking around.

liner33

10,695 posts

203 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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I have a BMW on order due for delivery in Week 30 so end of next month, I have very little faith that it will be here, I'm sure the dealer is withholding the bad news from me , if its significantly delayed my plans may well change, so it will bite the dealers even more should they start losing deposits

Frimley111R

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15,677 posts

235 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Spoke to a new i-Pace owner today. He said he went to buy an F-Pace but there was a 22 week waiting list so he bought whatever was available now.

jonwm

2,525 posts

115 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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My company is owned partially by Stellantis so have access to the car scheme, I ordered a car for my wife in early March and its still not had a build allocation, they are also prioritising the retail customers so don't know when I will see it, in the past any car ordered has been 3 to 4 weeks from stock or 6 to 8 for a factory build.

On the other hand I posted in the "used thread" my mate chopped his 2.5 year old Kuga ST Line a few weeks back for a few hundred quid less than he paid for it in Jan '20, that was with WBAC too, they were told they cant get enough of them at the moment.

He also purchased a 2016 basic LWB transporter with 90k on the clock for near on £19k last month, it does have the big wheels and different bumper but still

eeLee

760 posts

81 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
That seems a big leap to say 1 in 4.


I have been surprised to see a couple of queries in forums about people who've had cars in the last few weeks and found they were built last year - with all the hoo-hah I'm amazed new cars of that age are still kicking around.
actually given the length of wait for us being shortened by about one month from 4 to 3 from a production line dedicated for a specific model, I assume it's not far off.

We needed to replace our old car otherwise we might have held on the order until specced stock became available. To keep our order, BMW offered us a sum around 4x the cost of the missing options to not cancel the order.

edd1e

70 posts

228 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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I ordered a Defender 90 (hardtop) in April and told June delivery , now been given a date of 19th November. Hoping it doesn't have any options missing but doesn't seem to be much anyone can do...

Dealer said P400s still have no build dates at all.

Edited by edd1e on Tuesday 29th June 20:25

Leemcd

238 posts

133 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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Ordered my new company car at the end of January, now I’ve been told it’s not arriving until mid September. In this case it’s an Evoque p300 hybrid.

surveyor

17,845 posts

185 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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Wonder how dealers will cope with this. It's going to cause turnover issues.

No new cars to sell. Lease companies are having to hang on to end of lease cars as no new car available so no few 3 year olds. They are going to be fighting over very few second hand cars.