RE: Festival of Speed green lit as a pilot event
Discussion
egor110 said:
Skylinecrazy said:
Terminator X said:
GreatScott2016 said:
TobesH said:
Poor Charles March, he must be incandescent! This is a total fiasco! Brilliant that FoS is cleared to go ahead, but really?!
The Gov has lost it's way totally and really messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
We are all grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves now surely? Anyway roll on FoS, looking forward to it.
With a idiotic comment like that you’re certainly not “grown up enough to make decisions yourself”. It’s a pandemic for gods sake and people are still dying. People who put holidays and mass gatherings ahead of the health of and risk to others is selfish beyond belief, FoS or not!The Gov has lost it's way totally and really messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
We are all grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves now surely? Anyway roll on FoS, looking forward to it.
TX.
But as you’re a simple guy you obviously needed that explaining to you.
Lol
What's your criteria for sports/motor sports operating as they did in 2019 ?
Under 35s certainly won’t be.
Cases are going up unfortunately, as are hospital admissions again. Can’t open up as normal with 10k+ cases a day and the younger generation still way off their second jab.
egor110 said:
Skylinecrazy said:
Terminator X said:
GreatScott2016 said:
TobesH said:
Poor Charles March, he must be incandescent! This is a total fiasco! Brilliant that FoS is cleared to go ahead, but really?!
The Gov has lost it's way totally and really messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
We are all grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves now surely? Anyway roll on FoS, looking forward to it.
With a idiotic comment like that you’re certainly not “grown up enough to make decisions yourself”. It’s a pandemic for gods sake and people are still dying. People who put holidays and mass gatherings ahead of the health of and risk to others is selfish beyond belief, FoS or not!The Gov has lost it's way totally and really messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
We are all grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves now surely? Anyway roll on FoS, looking forward to it.
TX.
But as you’re a simple guy you obviously needed that explaining to you.
Lol
What's your criteria for sports/motor sports operating as they did in 2019 ?
No need to panic/run around hysterically/clutch pearls.
Skylinecrazy said:
egor110 said:
Skylinecrazy said:
Terminator X said:
GreatScott2016 said:
TobesH said:
Poor Charles March, he must be incandescent! This is a total fiasco! Brilliant that FoS is cleared to go ahead, but really?!
The Gov has lost it's way totally and really messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
We are all grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves now surely? Anyway roll on FoS, looking forward to it.
With a idiotic comment like that you’re certainly not “grown up enough to make decisions yourself”. It’s a pandemic for gods sake and people are still dying. People who put holidays and mass gatherings ahead of the health of and risk to others is selfish beyond belief, FoS or not!The Gov has lost it's way totally and really messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
We are all grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves now surely? Anyway roll on FoS, looking forward to it.
TX.
But as you’re a simple guy you obviously needed that explaining to you.
Lol
What's your criteria for sports/motor sports operating as they did in 2019 ?
Under 35s certainly won’t be.
Cases are going up unfortunately, as are hospital admissions again. Can’t open up as normal with 10k+ cases a day and the younger generation still way off their second jab.
Like i said what's your criteria for opening up sports etc ?
Everyone over 18 offered the vaccine ? or everyone including children ?
At some point we have to accept that once we've done this variant there's going to be another variant round the corner , our economy can't afford to keep locking down when we have a vaccine that works .
It's for the other thread really, but if the vaccination campaign continues to be effective then there is no problem, and if it doesn't, then the only alternatives open to us are to live the rest of our lives in perpetual rolling lockdown until we reach a level of natural immunity (which by definition will not happen very quickly if we live under lockdowns) or accept that death is a part of life and some people who are older or have been dealt a poor hand are more likely to die sooner than might otherwise have been the case without covid.
Good to see motorsports following football and the rest. Music, theatres and informal entertainment are screaming for release so hopefully they're next.
Good to see motorsports following football and the rest. Music, theatres and informal entertainment are screaming for release so hopefully they're next.
2gins said:
It's for the other thread really, but if the vaccination campaign continues to be effective then there is no problem, and if it doesn't, then the only alternatives open to us are to live the rest of our lives in perpetual rolling lockdown until we reach a level of natural immunity (which by definition will not happen very quickly if we live under lockdowns) or accept that death is a part of life and some people who are older or have been dealt a poor hand are more likely to die sooner than might otherwise have been the case without covid.
Good to see motorsports following football and the rest. Music, theatres and informal entertainment are screaming for release so hopefully they're next.
Erm these threads are no place for such disgustingly sensible comments, nuance and balance. Do you want FOS to go ahead or do you want people to die… yes or no?! (That’s how internet works right?) Good to see motorsports following football and the rest. Music, theatres and informal entertainment are screaming for release so hopefully they're next.
Looking forward to FOS one of my favourite days of the year- glad it’s happening and glad for all whose businesses and livelihoods depend on such events.
TobesH said:
Poor Charles March, he must be incandescent! This is a total fiasco! Brilliant that FoS is cleared to go ahead, but really?!
Why would he be incandescent? FoS was going ahead this year. Despite the continuing of restrictions in other parts of life, FoS is still going ahead, and without any meaningful restrictions. The only difference seems to be that people attending will need to have had both vaccines or provide a negative test. Fairly trivial to Charles March, I would think.spikyone said:
Why would he be incandescent? FoS was going ahead this year. Despite the continuing of restrictions in other parts of life, FoS is still going ahead, and without any meaningful restrictions. The only difference seems to be that people attending will need to have had both vaccines or provide a negative test. Fairly trivial to Charles March, I would think.
Yes massive win for the estate, they must be thrilled as I imagine most of the costs associated with the event had already gone out of the door.egor110 said:
We have 36 million or 64% who've had there first jab and 26.5 million or 47% double vaccinated .
Like i said what's your criteria for opening up sports etc ?
Everyone over 18 offered the vaccine ? or everyone including children ?
At some point we have to accept that once we've done this variant there's going to be another variant round the corner , our economy can't afford to keep locking down when we have a vaccine that works .
Really they should be aiming for practically every adult double vaccinated and low levels of virus in society.Like i said what's your criteria for opening up sports etc ?
Everyone over 18 offered the vaccine ? or everyone including children ?
At some point we have to accept that once we've done this variant there's going to be another variant round the corner , our economy can't afford to keep locking down when we have a vaccine that works .
There's a good reason for this, a partially vaccinated population with high transmission rates present is an ideal breeder for a vaccine resistant variant. Until now, there has not been a society worldwide that's had high vaccination rates and high transmission rates.
The original strains of the virus will keep bumping into vaccinated people and getting suppressed, IF a vaccine resistant mutation is going to occur once it breaks into the vaccinated group it then has effectively free reign to become the dominant strain even if it's less transmissible than other strains in existence.
As we've seen before, it will then go on to develop more transmissible strains of itself.
We don't understand enough about it to know if that's possible, or likely but for the sake of waiting a few months while we get everybody double jab'd that's a small price to pay for covering off that eventuality to the greatest extent possible.
If you adopt that policy foreign travel becomes a no go zone until the destination country is also double jab'd. Really, no country that's free of Delta strain should be accepting UK visitors right now for their own good.
borat52 said:
Really they should be aiming for practically every adult double vaccinated and low levels of virus in society.
There's a good reason for this, a partially vaccinated population with high transmission rates present is an ideal breeder for a vaccine resistant variant. Until now, there has not been a society worldwide that's had high vaccination rates and high transmission rates.
The original strains of the virus will keep bumping into vaccinated people and getting suppressed, IF a vaccine resistant mutation is going to occur once it breaks into the vaccinated group it then has effectively free reign to become the dominant strain even if it's less transmissible than other strains in existence.
As we've seen before, it will then go on to develop more transmissible strains of itself.
We don't understand enough about it to know if that's possible, or likely but for the sake of waiting a few months while we get everybody double jab'd that's a small price to pay for covering off that eventuality to the greatest extent possible.
If you adopt that policy foreign travel becomes a no go zone until the destination country is also double jab'd. Really, no country that's free of Delta strain should be accepting UK visitors right now for their own good.
There aren’t any countries free of the Delta variant. They are naive if they think they are. The very limited sequencing they are doing is already showing cases across Europe and elsewhere. They are slowly getting dominated by it There's a good reason for this, a partially vaccinated population with high transmission rates present is an ideal breeder for a vaccine resistant variant. Until now, there has not been a society worldwide that's had high vaccination rates and high transmission rates.
The original strains of the virus will keep bumping into vaccinated people and getting suppressed, IF a vaccine resistant mutation is going to occur once it breaks into the vaccinated group it then has effectively free reign to become the dominant strain even if it's less transmissible than other strains in existence.
As we've seen before, it will then go on to develop more transmissible strains of itself.
We don't understand enough about it to know if that's possible, or likely but for the sake of waiting a few months while we get everybody double jab'd that's a small price to pay for covering off that eventuality to the greatest extent possible.
If you adopt that policy foreign travel becomes a no go zone until the destination country is also double jab'd. Really, no country that's free of Delta strain should be accepting UK visitors right now for their own good.
Dr Interceptor said:
Very much delighted by the news. I'm 38, have had my first vaccine, might have had the second dose before the FOS, but its not exactly a hardship to take lateral flow test just before to get in.
I'd much rather have the FOS with regulations than no FOS at all.
Yep.I'd much rather have the FOS with regulations than no FOS at all.
Incredibly hard work by the Goodwood team to get this event staged. I'm delighted it's on.
ch37 said:
Yes massive win for the estate, they must be thrilled as I imagine most of the costs associated with the event had already gone out of the door.
They cancelled last year, which would have had a pile of costs too. They’ll be delighted it can go ahead, even if they need a few more stewards on the gate. Cancelling twice might well have triggered a lot of refunds, as well as additional costs. The only people not over the moon, will be the overseas visitors needing to quarantine.
TobesH said:
Poor Charles March, he must be incandescent! This is a total fiasco! Brilliant that FoS is cleared to go ahead, but really?!
The Gov has lost it's way totally and really messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
We are all grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves now surely? Anyway roll on FoS, looking forward to it.
Yummy! Is that rat you're licking tasty?The Gov has lost it's way totally and really messing up peoples lives and livelihoods.
We are all grown up enough to make decisions for ourselves now surely? Anyway roll on FoS, looking forward to it.
When you have Silverstone being allowed a capacity crowd under the same regs as FoS is now I couldn't see a reason not to allow it to go ahead.
The test events that have already happened have shown that if you test everyone/make sure they are double jabbed before the likelyhood of transmisson is low enough to be negligable.
Sooner rather than later (probably when everyone eligable has been offered the jab) we will have to learn to live with Covid like we do with the flu or cancer or traffic accidents.
The test events that have already happened have shown that if you test everyone/make sure they are double jabbed before the likelyhood of transmisson is low enough to be negligable.
Sooner rather than later (probably when everyone eligable has been offered the jab) we will have to learn to live with Covid like we do with the flu or cancer or traffic accidents.
AlexHat said:
When you have Silverstone being allowed a capacity crowd under the same regs as FoS is now I couldn't see a reason not to allow it to go ahead.
I completely agree, but it's a lobbying exercise more so than something that's actually logical. For every FoS and British GP there are many, many motorsport events (or indeed any other type of event) still running under strict rules (for motorsport that is paddock segregation and 4000 capacity) that haven't been granted the luxury of being held under ERP conditions. I imagine a lot of motorsport/event organisers that don't happen to have a title in their name or are running a globally important event are pretty annoyed that what could be perfectly safe outdoor events are still unable to happen. The Event Research Programme hasn't even produced any data as far as I'm aware, and if my knowledge of the process is right, showing a negative LFT on the gate at FoS doesn't actually place you at the event, so what data they can pull from that down the line is sketchy at best.
NDA said:
Dr Interceptor said:
Very much delighted by the news. I'm 38, have had my first vaccine, might have had the second dose before the FOS, but its not exactly a hardship to take lateral flow test just before to get in.
I'd much rather have the FOS with regulations than no FOS at all.
Yep.I'd much rather have the FOS with regulations than no FOS at all.
Incredibly hard work by the Goodwood team to get this event staged. I'm delighted it's on.
"I say old boy any chance I can run my garden party, its for the masses and outdoors"
"sounds like a jolly wheeze, what -o, just make sure the unwashed have had a jab"
friends in high places and all that.
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