RE: Porsche 911 GT2 RS claims Nurburgring lap record
Discussion
dapper said:
RDMcG said:
If I had the talent to drive a GT2RS to the limit of its performance on the Nürburgring, I would definitely get the Manthey kit. However,I do not, nor am I close to it, so the added. performance would not make much difference for me, a moderately competent 3RS driver. I have a ton of respect for Manthey though.
I'd be curious to see your thoughts if you went for a passenger lap in one. Although you may be no where near the limit in the stock car, the extra bits of kit added on may make it feel more confidence inspiring to you? Then again a stock 3RS is incredible in its own right. Best of luck with the car and the laps.dapper said:
I do think it should belong in the "modified" category as it's not a factory Porsche option, that doesn't take away from the achievement however, incredible.
That doesn't really matter tbh. Nissan claimed the record with the GTR Nismo a few years back with a n £80k dealer fitted option kit that included bulkhead replacement! And no-one made a fuss back then.
belleair302 said:
It may well be the fastest time recorded but does anybody care and do people really buy a very modified track car because of this time set by a professional 'ring specialist? It isnt so newsworthy when you look at the cost of the car and the very special tyres plus brakes and weight saving that has gone on. Meh!
If it was a RR Ghost probably not, for a car designed to go fast on track, absolutely. Shows it’s been engineered and developed ‘properly’ Harrypop said:
I can't quite work out if this is a further development of the GT2 RS MR or just a faster time with the same package as before?
As far as I can see its essentially the same package but with the aero discs designed to work with the factory fit wheels instead of needing new ones so should be cheaper.But it's now been homologated by Porsche to be a dealer fit option so counts as a production car record. A cheap way to reclaim the record from Mercedes. Its not an MR, its referred to as 'just' a GT2RS.
mlhj83 said:
belleair302 said:
It may well be the fastest time recorded but does anybody care and do people really buy a very modified track car because of this time set by a professional 'ring specialist? It isnt so newsworthy when you look at the cost of the car and the very special tyres plus brakes and weight saving that has gone on. Meh!
I do, and so do a lot of RS owners around the world who track their cars very hard, and are able to achieve respectable lap times. You only need to see the number of MR kits already sold around the world for the 991 RS.Very impressive time. Of course it is expensive. These things aren't kitted out in Halfords.
honda_exige said:
As far as I can see its essentially the same package but with the aero discs designed to work with the factory fit wheels instead of needing new ones so should be cheaper.
But it's now been homologated by Porsche to be a dealer fit option so counts as a production car record. A cheap way to reclaim the record from Mercedes. Its not an MR, its referred to as 'just' a GT2RS.
I see, having it available without having to go to Manthey themselves will make it more attainable for some I imagine (assuming the level of service they provide can be replicated elsewhere of course).But it's now been homologated by Porsche to be a dealer fit option so counts as a production car record. A cheap way to reclaim the record from Mercedes. Its not an MR, its referred to as 'just' a GT2RS.
I thought the wheels Manthey used were just the Magnesium ones which were part of the Weissach pack to be honest. I know they essentially offered two versions of the MR package with one catering for cars which already had these fitted (at a significant reduction in cost). Not sure I've seen a GT2 RS for sale without them to be be fair but I did watch a video about a wing delete version in America where the owner imported a set and I think that they may have been something stupid like $50K. Ouch!
Getting round the ring in that time deserves maximum Kudos for driver, Manthey and Porsche. Yes the car is a track day special for those lucky enough to have pockets deep enough to afford the car and the mods but the achievement is definitely to be applauded by any self confessed petrol head! Will be interesting to see what Mercedes, Lamborghini etc comeback with to reclaim the record.
Harrypop said:
honda_exige said:
but I did watch a video about a wing delete version in America where the owner imported a set and I think that they may have been something stupid like $50K. Ouch!
Wing delete GT2 RS (MR or otherwise)?Sounds kinda pointless from a casual observer perspective. Was there a reason behind it?
Cheers
RW
The GT2 RS is the one overpriced, over capable car I would buy if I could (bar an LFA but I don't see them as the same thing). I'd buy the delivery mileage PCM delete version that's still for sale, only use it when I fancied a proper drive and, no doubt, spend the rest of my days learning but still getting no where near to what it is capable of.
WCZ said:
Lots of people do care, Chris Harris actually said the mr suspension made the standard gt2rs’s suspension seem bad
The bit that particularly caught my attention was the part where he basically describes the springs/dampers ability to soak up the bumps as a "magic trick". I guess that's the benefit of really expensive set ups like these. Does make me wonder how that would translate to on road use and if Manthey could just as easily tune the suspension to be sensational on a bumpy B road as it clearly is on a track. That would be the holy grail for me.Steven_RW said:
Wing delete GT2 RS (MR or otherwise)?
Sounds kinda pointless from a casual observer perspective. Was there a reason behind it?
Cheers
RW
Sounds kinda pointless from a casual observer perspective. Was there a reason behind it?
Cheers
RW
Just a standard GT2 RS. Long video but 17.20 is where the cost of the wheels are mentioned.
https://youtu.be/t9DOwQYkdbU
I suppose if the owner is unlikely to use the car in a scenario, or manor, regularly where the downforce produced by the wing is genuinely going to be of any relevance but they love the car for everything else it provides (bar the added 'styling' the wing) then it makes sense. There appears to be many who have done it and there is always a lot of love for the touring version of the GT3.
dapper said:
I'd be curious to see your thoughts if you went for a passenger lap in one. Although you may be no where near the limit in the stock car, the extra bits of kit added on may make it feel more confidence inspiring to you? Then again a stock 3RS is incredible in its own right. Best of luck with the car and the laps.
I have had some passenger laps there with professional drivers in track cars and can reasonably assess my own talents compared to theirs. Also have had all of my 3RS driven by professional drivers there before driving myself. Luckily I do not have a lot of ego on this. I am competent as a track day amateur. I would love a passenger lap in this car of course. I am amazed by the precision of top class drivers. No correction , minimal movement
honda_exige said:
That doesn't really matter tbh.
Nissan claimed the record with the GTR Nismo a few years back with a n £80k dealer fitted option kit that included bulkhead replacement! And no-one made a fuss back then.
I see, I missed the part that Porsche has it in the options now. Fair game then.Nissan claimed the record with the GTR Nismo a few years back with a n £80k dealer fitted option kit that included bulkhead replacement! And no-one made a fuss back then.
eein said:
Out of interest, is there such a thing as a F1 car time around the ring from when they last raced there?
Or has the curcuit / timing points changed too much since then?
The Nürburgring 24 hour includes the GT3 class - so your "mid tier" GT car (GTE being the quickest - i.e, the GT cars that run Le Mans), that are generally driven by amateurs, or pro-am. Or has the curcuit / timing points changed too much since then?
They run the ring + GP circuit so laptimes not directly comparable, the equivalent times around the Nordschleife is about 6:15 on a quali lap, from memory.
Road cars are quick, but there is still a way to go before any road car can get close to even the GT3 class on circuit.... let alone GTE, LMP3, LMP2, LMP1, F4, F3, F2, F1, etc etc
tommy1973s said:
I'd have liked to have been a passenger too!
Really?I did a 8:35 lap in a Corvette. With my hands in my lap and I enjoyed it very much. I needed a cuppa tea and 30 mins in the shade after a double throw up though... Only 1.38 G but still... Once you're back on planet earth it's kinda hard. I wonder how navigators in rally cars keep up.
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