RE: All-new Ferrari 296 GTB is rear-drive PHEV
Discussion
pauloroberto said:
I’m surprised the pure electric range is just 6 miles. An i8 will do that and is a much older car.
i8s aren’t much good for tracks either because the battery drains after a few laps. Wonder if this will have the same problem.
Can you please point out where you read 6 miles? The article states 15 i8s aren’t much good for tracks either because the battery drains after a few laps. Wonder if this will have the same problem.
Edited by pauloroberto on Thursday 24th June 20:11
ajprice said:
abzmike said:
I like it, and suspect it will look even better in the metal, or fibre. One thought though - the back end looks big for a car with a small engine..l what is actually taking up all that space, or has it got a boot I missed? Lovely looking though, but not with the yellow...
'Small' engine is a 120° V with the turbos on top, so that's going to be fairly wide and tall, then the electric motors and battery pack in there too takes up a chunk of space. Images from the 296 website Would the batteries be better in the floor, dropping the CoG?
abzmike said:
ajprice said:
abzmike said:
I like it, and suspect it will look even better in the metal, or fibre. One thought though - the back end looks big for a car with a small engine..l what is actually taking up all that space, or has it got a boot I missed? Lovely looking though, but not with the yellow...
'Small' engine is a 120° V with the turbos on top, so that's going to be fairly wide and tall, then the electric motors and battery pack in there too takes up a chunk of space. Images from the 296 website Would the batteries be better in the floor, dropping the CoG?
Another dogs dinner Ferrari design. Take the badges off and it could be any new on the scene electric car maker. It is fussy and far from coherent front, middle, back. Yuk. Be a good footballers and rich chav car. Ferrari lost their class sadly. It's rich brash and naff now.
As ever though , the driveline and drive will be amazing.
As ever though , the driveline and drive will be amazing.
abzmike said:
ajprice said:
abzmike said:
I like it, and suspect it will look even better in the metal, or fibre. One thought though - the back end looks big for a car with a small engine..l what is actually taking up all that space, or has it got a boot I missed? Lovely looking though, but not with the yellow...
'Small' engine is a 120° V with the turbos on top, so that's going to be fairly wide and tall, then the electric motors and battery pack in there too takes up a chunk of space. Images from the 296 website Would the batteries be better in the floor, dropping the CoG?
The consequence of that is to have a higher floorpan height, therefore seating position/H point, therefore roof height.
So, stick them in a more rectangular shape and job jobbed.
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GroundEffect said:
The batteries are vulnerable items, therefore cannot be put too low down. All vehicles that have them in the floor, actually end up with a raised floor vs what you could achieve without. You really don't want to strike the pack with a kerb/speed bump or equally likely have some debris go under your car on the motorway and strike the front of the pack sticking down.
The consequence of that is to have a higher floorpan height, therefore seating position/H point, therefore roof height.
So, stick them in a more rectangular shape and job jobbed.
You better let Porsche knowThe consequence of that is to have a higher floorpan height, therefore seating position/H point, therefore roof height.
So, stick them in a more rectangular shape and job jobbed.
pauloroberto said:
I’m surprised the pure electric range is just 6 miles. An i8 will do that and is a much older car.
i8s aren’t much good for tracks either because the battery drains after a few laps. Wonder if this will have the same problem.
As has already been pointed out, the 296s range is 25km or around 15 miles which is almost identical to an i8's real-world range.i8s aren’t much good for tracks either because the battery drains after a few laps. Wonder if this will have the same problem.
Also, you do realise that these PHEVs don't run out of electric power as the ICE charges the battery right? My i8's battery will never run flat if I have it in sport mode (at least not until there's no petrol in it anymore) - in fact, it will remain at around 70-80% charged and will scavenge for power when decelerating too.
Edited by sidesauce on Friday 25th June 07:17
fblm said:
GroundEffect said:
The batteries are vulnerable items, therefore cannot be put too low down. All vehicles that have them in the floor, actually end up with a raised floor vs what you could achieve without. You really don't want to strike the pack with a kerb/speed bump or equally likely have some debris go under your car on the motorway and strike the front of the pack sticking down.
The consequence of that is to have a higher floorpan height, therefore seating position/H point, therefore roof height.
So, stick them in a more rectangular shape and job jobbed.
You better let Porsche knowThe consequence of that is to have a higher floorpan height, therefore seating position/H point, therefore roof height.
So, stick them in a more rectangular shape and job jobbed.
As another data point, go see the rationale for the Rimac Nevera not having a floor-mounted pack.
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