RE: All-new Ferrari 296 GTB is rear-drive PHEV

[MDL111]

I am not a fan of modern Ferrari deigns, but to compare them to a Lotus is ridiculous imo - look at the cars in the metal next to each other as opposed to on pictures that make them look like they are the same dimensions. They most definitely are not

[Mackofthejungle]

Yeah whatever, we've seen it all before.

It's the end game for interesting cars - buy the old stuff while you still can.

[PhantomPH]

cidered77 said:

PhantomPH said:

Six Potter said:

PhantomPH said:

I really think I'm at a very strange point in my own life, in that I know I should care but I just don't. Yes, it's pretty and yes I'm sure it's very fast...but it's just another bit of 'car' and not one I can afford either.

Make no mistake, I'm currently feeling like Cougar in Top Gun...like I should go in and put my wings on Pistonheads' desk. I've lost my edge...

I'm with you to a certain extent, I've been somewhat suffering from a bit of the Hypercar Fatigue, there's seemingly been a bewilding array of new cars from all sorts of old and new manufacturers, coachbuilders, etc. Also the whole hybrid/electric thing doesn't really excit me either I have to say. And yes I'm a very long way from being able to afford anything like a car like that as well so it feels like something of an irrelevance. I'm more into having a bit of fun with retro classic motors, but even many of those are starting to attract silly speculative prices these days...

Tell me about it - I also own a 1961 Mini which apparently is made of solid gold, if you believe the current market.

It does feel like PH just needs DJ Khaled on loop saying, "Another one!"

The only car I actually want ( a 718 Spyder) I can't actually go and order - and I refuse to pay overs. So I'm probably just in the huff with everything.

As supercars go, this one is quite pretty.

I wonder if supercar/hypercar fatigue is just a smaller group of like-minded old men like us who love the good old days, or a genuinely growing trend.

Certainly the number of super/hypecar options and the actual number on the road seems to be exponentially increasing, and we're long long past the point that that experience of pushing a car to the edge on even the quietest of open country goods with good visibility can ever be experienced in one of them. Just so incredibly fast.

Spotting something as a kid in the 80s was a proper Life Moment... and the first coach trip to London to a 9 year old Cidered was allll about pushing face to the glass and spotting a collection of supercars/luxury cars at seemingly incredible frequency. But wouldn't be much different to any normal boring market town today.

So grew up with all the Athena posters, and badly wanting a Ferrari - any Ferrari - then get to a stage of life where if i really wanted to do it, i could probably find a way - but instead first keys to reach for are a 30 year old NSX that would get left behind by my daily driver Toyota Yaris. And my bucket list of cars are all from the distant past. And much more interesting to me.

Just have sub-zero desire for it. Still - undeniably beautiful thing, with some impressive engineering. Glad it exists, good luck to those who pull the trigger....

Judging by the comments, I think we've all just lived long enough now to see the end starting to arrive. Cynical as it may sound, I think we are witnessing the supercar/hypercar desperately trying to go out kicking and screaming.When you can buy a £120k Tesla/Audi/Porsche that can go faster than a £300k+ Ferrari and also not make you look like one of society's dinosaurs in the process, it sort of removes the USP - or at least dilutes it.

I don't think middle-age helps of course. But I was saying to a petrolhead friend the other day, that loud, fast cars just don't seem socially acceptable anymore. As you describe above, the 'ohh ahh' factor seems to have been all but replaced by the 'dhead' factor. Like you're the old man making sexist and racists jokes at a party, blissfully unaware that everyone around you think's you're a cock.

Anyway, enough of this pitiful drivel - new Ferrari, yey!!! Erm...isn't it time Aston Martin made another special edition...

[Manic Street Sleeper]

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[Coxey]

LordOfTheManor said:

Am I the only person who doesn't like it !

Nope I’m just not feeling it

[Blackpuddin]

UnfortunateUserName said:

Transition from the scoop behind the doors to the wheel arch is a bit awkward to my eyes. Sure it’ll look good in the flesh though

Takes all sorts. I love that, it's different. The dash immediately said 'Dino' to me. Need to win money now.

[PhantomPH]

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[matrignano]

I really don’t get where this slots in the range.

Given it’s smaller than F8 and a V6, I thought logically they should have made it less powerful and cheaper, and maybe called it Dino.

Instead we get 800+ Hp and a higher price than the F8??

[s2000db]

What’s the performance like when it’s run out of battery after a lap or two?

I can’t see hybrid as a way forward yet for super cars imo…

[Galsia]

I kind of wish that it was slower to be honest 500-600bhp would be fine.

[whp1983]

I’m Ferrari’s biggest fan, but…. I’m not sure I like design on this- will reserve judgment until I see it in flesh- just the rear three quarters doesn’t flow too well, bit awkward. Still 458 for me in terms of recent design.

I bet it’s excellent though.

[Buzzfan]

Seems to me from the photos to be a "nearly-cute" offspring between my #1 pinup - a Dino 246GT - and that stubby square disappointment, the 4C. Good to see the stylists breaking away from the crude slashes and vents trend. And yes too to the resemblance with later Evora in some angles.

In the flesh, I bet it'll look better balanced, yet also look way way too huge for me to want to rag on my favourite UK roads.

And yes I agree too with those with supercar fatigue - and also most mega-souped up saloon, estate and SUV's. How well a car goes isn't the same as how fast a car goes. Perversely, I guess I'm ageing & coming round to the view that the better a car's roadholding, the less fun some may be driving safely, mainly at or below the legal limits.

Edited by Buzzfan on Thursday 24th June 18:37

[roland82]

I'm not keen on that long front end. The tech sounds amazing though, part of me stil finds the idea of hybrid Ferraris strange.

[SpeckledJim]

s2000db said:

What’s the performance like when it’s run out of battery after a lap or two?

I can’t see hybrid as a way forward yet for super cars imo…

Yeah, but soon enough, if you want to use a supercar for what it's actually actually for, which is 0-40 in Sloane Square many times per evening, then you'll need it to be a hybrid.

[NGK210]

Does it have a hidden ‘file’ in the V6-turbo-hybrid power unit’s map to increase fuel flow and in turn boost the ICE’s power output?

[tiggyzak]

A magnificent piece of design and engineering ,but ,and I know I'm getting on a bit ,it seems a million miles away from the lovely Dino 246. Yes , you guessed it - given a choice of the two i'd take the Dino. But still a lovely car so I'm not going to rubbish it.

[pixelmix]

SpeckledJim said:

This bit is causing me mild perturbation, but overall I think it's the best looking Ferrari for a very long time, with the possible exception of the Roma.

Agreed. Having straight lines and curved lines don’t work well together. It needs to be one or the other.

Edit: it does look better in angled photos, so perhaps it is better in person than it looks in the side profile photos.

Edited by pixelmix on Thursday 24th June 18:56

[Arsecati]

Coxey said:

LordOfTheManor said:

Am I the only person who doesn't like it !

Nope I’m just not feeling it

Same here, I really cannot see how people are loving this at all, never mind liking it. This leaves me completely cold.

[howardhughes]

SpeckledJim said:

This bit is causing me mild perturbation, but overall I think it's the best looking Ferrari for a very long time, with the possible exception of the Roma.

You beat me to it.

[Ollieb7]

Yawn.