RE: Goodwood debut for 2022 Toyota GR 86

[Antonhu]

My 2017 GT86 fits comfortably in my not-very-big garage (5.20 m x 2.565 m max; door width 2.145 m). In fact, that was a hurdle it had to pass (along with rwd) before I decided to buy it. Very few other performance cars will fit.

[SRT77]

Antonhu said:

My 2017 GT86 fits comfortably in my not-very-big garage (5.20 m x 2.565 m max; door width 2.145 m). In fact, that was a hurdle it had to pass (along with rwd) before I decided to buy it. Very few other performance cars will fit.

That’s a big garage. My opening is 1.960 m. Can just sqeeeze my Clio220 Trophy in. I’d really like my next car to be a GR86 but there’s no way I could garage it.

[JmatthewB]

I wish I had a garage for mine. The previous owner had it garaged so I feel like I'm letting it down.

[voram]

Do modern cars really need garages? Mine lives outside and doesn't come to much harm parked on a quiet driveway rather than out on the street. The birds can be something of a hazard if you have to park under trees but beyond that they seem pretty weather-proof.

[leglessAlex]

SRT77 said:

That’s a big garage. My opening is 1.960 m. Can just sqeeeze my Clio220 Trophy in. I’d really like my next car to be a GR86 but there’s no way I could garage it.

What?

It’s 1,770mm wide. How wouldn’t that fit? I just managed to get my E63 into a garage that’s almost exactly the same width as yours and yes, while it was very very tight it was doable.

[Honeywell]

That's not a garage. This is a garage.

(Hat tip Mick Dundee)

[TameRacingDriver]

British Beef said:

However less than 200hp/ton, gets to the point where overtaking someone travelling close to the speed limit on A and B roads, becomes challenging, unless long well sighted straights or willing to take big risks.

150 bhp / ton is more than ample. If you can't get past a car, easily, with that figure, you need driving lessons.

[SRT77]

leglessAlex said:

What?

It’s 1,770mm wide. How wouldn’t that fit? I just managed to get my E63 into a garage that’s almost exactly the same width as yours and yes, while it was very very tight it was doable.

Yes, I could in theory drive it in, but I’d have zero room to open either door. I did think maybe I could climb in and out of the boot! There is a small recess on the passenger side that the front door on the Clio just clears and that’s my route in and out, but no chance with the bigger Toyota doors

[otolith]

flukey5 said:

Having bought a TT over these cars, personally I didn't care about the badge.

The perceived interior and exterior quality of the TT is leagues above any of the cars you've mentioned despite barely changing since 2015. Japanese manufacturers just need to try harder, especially on the interior - this new GR86 looks older than a 2015 TT inside.

The purchase decision was for the TT because it felt like a higher quality product for the same (or better) price. Just better value for money, honestly.

Depends on your priorities. VAG spend the money on the bits you can see and touch. Others spend it on the bits that determine how well it drives. There isn’t a right or wrong choice, just preferences. If you want both you’ll have to pay more.

[Fonzo]

JmatthewB said:

I'd like to test one of these when they come out to compare it to my GT86. The looks have grown on me since the initial images. Do dealerships still allow speculative test drives or do you need to be half way through the buying process before you can test drive now?

Depends on the dealer, go there with your GT86 and say you're tempted to upgrade, ask for some finance figures, then ask for a test drive.

[pacdes]

2.4ltr engine and a dash to 60 in 6.3 seconds - Pathetic.

[leglessAlex]

SRT77 said:

Yes, I could in theory drive it in, but I’d have zero room to open either door. I did think maybe I could climb in and out of the boot! There is a small recess on the passenger side that the front door on the Clio just clears and that’s my route in and out, but no chance with the bigger Toyota doors

Fair enough, I was assuming at least a little more space each side after the door. My bad

It's still a pretty small car though my modern standards, just not quite as small as something like an MX5 (I think).

[s m]

pacdes said:

2.4ltr engine and a dash to 60 in 6.3 seconds - Pathetic.

Sounds about right for the weight/power

That’s pretty much what the E30 M3 Sport Evo managed with a 2.5 and 238bhp

Whether that’s ‘fast enough’ for prospective buyers is a different question

[pacdes]

Honeywell said:

That's not a garage. This is a garage.

(Hat tip Mick Dundee)

That is not a garage. It is a barn.

[SidewaysSi]

pacdes said:

2.4ltr engine and a dash to 60 in 6.3 seconds - Pathetic.

Is it really? For a NA engine seems bang on. What should it be? 2 secs?

[Ultrafunkula]

pacdes said:

2.4ltr engine and a dash to 60 in 6.3 seconds - Pathetic.

Quicker than the pre turbo Civic Type R's, seems adequate.

[thatsprettyshady]

pacdes said:

2.4ltr engine and a dash to 60 in 6.3 seconds - Pathetic.

Expect to see quotes like this more and more often as people forget that cars without turbos need capacity to make power. Personally I think it's bonkers that the 1.6l (turbo) engine in my car makes 257bhp. I'd prefer a 3.0 engine for that power but this is the world we live in.

Bravo to Toyota for sticking with NA.

[TameRacingDriver]

pacdes said:

2.4ltr engine and a dash to 60 in 6.3 seconds - Pathetic.

Hardly pathetic Its a sports car made for fun driving and cornering, not a dragster.

[Wyldie85]

Those rear lights are very Honda NSX-esque.
I like it.

[Zlat502]

So....1 of these and a Yaris GR then?