RE: Ineos shows off Grenadier interior

RE: Ineos shows off Grenadier interior

Wednesday 7th July 2021

Ineos shows off Grenadier interior

A year after the exterior, we finally get to see inside...


They say good things take time. Maturing wine. Brownies cooling when you get them out the oven so you don't burn your mouth. Perfectly brewed coffee. But this trend seems to be making its way into the car-production sphere, with the world's slowest car reveals continue to promise great things. The new Land Rover Defender, for example, seemed to belong in modern folklore for years until JLR officially unveiled it in 2019. Even the Lego model was announced before most people saw the car in the metal.

The Ineos Grenadier, though, seems to be embracing that ethos to the limit, first unveiling the exterior in summer 2020 and now, a whole year later, we get to see inside. Luckily, for a change, the interior pictures released by the manufacturer actually provide us with something decent to look at - you're not peering inside another German SUV, that's for sure.

Let's start with the obvious: it doesn't look much like a new Defender on the inside. In fact, it doesn't look like any new car currently on the market. Predictably the firm has opted to hark back to the rugged and "built on purpose" (whatever that means) idea of 4x4s of old. And the Ineos sailing boat, apparently. The centre panel looks as though it might have been extracted from the Apollo 13 mission.

The first thing you'll notice from the pics are a good array of toggle switches, handy for operating with muddy gloves. Tick to the Grenadier. A bank of switches on the roof seem, whether hugely practical or necessary, pretty cool - although there are so many we're not sure how easy it would be to engage your auxiliary winch in the middle of the night, when it's raining, and you're covered in mud. Apparently the idea is that the passenger will be able to 'co-pilot' the car by having easy access to those buttons too, but any passenger of ours tends to be asleep five minutes into the M25, so who knows how much help they will be.

Of greater concern is the 12.3-inch touchscreen. Ineos insists it can be fully operated with the rotary dial, but why give us a delicate little screen - or tiny steering wheel buttons or no analogue dials - in the first place? Surely the whole point of the Grenadier was to provide an interior that could accommodate a deer carcass or a cement mixer or a salvaged outboard motor - and all the dust and oil and guts that come with them. Ineos has apparently delivered on the stain-resistant, rugged plastic to permit that - but the Grenadier would have been bolder and better without any screens to negotiate.

There's also a big red button on the steering wheel that has a picture of a bicycle and the word 'toot'. Your guess is as good as ours, but we're hoping they've gone for the Musk approach and added fart noises on demand. And we're not quite sure how well 'Toot' is going to translate for the Germans. We'll gloss over the plastic gearshifter nabbed from the BMW parts bin, too.

Counter intuitive or not though, you do get other well thought out, off-road perks like a footwell with plugs so you can "hose out" the interior and water-resistant seats. A dry storage box under the rear seat, lockable centre console box and secure side-mounted boxes in the back help with the adventurer prospect. Nevertheless, going on appearances alone, we're not so sure the humble Suzuki Jimny LCV doesn't earn itself bragging rights on the zero-frills utility front.


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skwdenyer

Original Poster:

16,528 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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I own a 1987 110 V8 and a 2005 D3. And I like this interior very much. It seems to strike a good balance between basic utilitarianism and just enough "adventure chic" to persuade private owners to buy a few.

I shall certainly be taking a closer look when it gets to actual launch time.

Flumpo

3,765 posts

74 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Looks a bit more Batman than I was expecting.

Will be interesting to hear the official description of that red toot button.

Cyclists seem like the sorts that get up early, so I’m sure this thread might get interesting shortly.

rodericb

6,772 posts

127 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Roof consoles are back, baby!!

Truckosaurus

11,329 posts

285 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Toot button lis a good idea, I assume it is a more 'friendly' horn noise. Not sure why it is marked with a bike, you'd be tooting pedestrians who aren't looking where they are going. Or perhaps it is for tooting your friends?

easytiger123

2,595 posts

210 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Maybe it's just me but that interior is a dog's dinner. Looks cheap, gimmicky and incoherent.

eliot

11,442 posts

255 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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presumably the overhead console saves on tooling for lhd/rhd variants

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Pah, give me a tax break twin cab pick-up any day.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,012 posts

144 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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That’s awful. Even as a 2014 Defender owner I far prefer the new Defender to this.

HughG

3,549 posts

242 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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easytiger123 said:
Maybe it's just me but that interior is a dog's dinner. Looks cheap, gimmicky and incoherent.
Not just you, and you can add poorly laid out to that list.

covmutley

3,028 posts

191 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Very gimmicky, but does look very usable.

A Winner Is You

24,990 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Looks like an Amstrad hi-fi.

Truckosaurus

11,329 posts

285 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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At the very least we should be celebrating that it actually has buttons (all the buttons!) instead of sticking it all on a touchscreen, which would have been the much cheaper solution for a small manufacturer to come up with.

ducnick

1,795 posts

244 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Looks fantastic with actual buttons. Slightly disappointed that we get a little screen where the speedo / Rev counter should be. I was hoping for analog dials.
Having said that, I will not be withdrawing my interest in the finished car. Still very keen to get my hands on one.

Macboy

742 posts

206 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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A Winner Is You said:
Looks like an Amstrad hi-fi.
It does remind me of a ghetto-blaster from the 80's - a mad jumble of buttons, faux aircraft graphics and trinkets. Ergonomically it's a disaster. Like the tracing paper "it's nothing like a Defender really" exterior, perhaps hiring an automotive designer might actually have made this less fake-industrial and more driving-usuable.

Numeric

1,398 posts

152 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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At first I wondered why this style interior - but I guess I have always been a bit confused by this vehicle. Take the engines - now I love bigger BMW engines - but hardly easy to fix, robust and simple, the exterior all chunky yet an interior that is more Disco 3 in ethos of luxury than Defender - a good thing for the likes of me (country living but urbanite in nature) but not perhaps for the farmer next door whose family are multi generational owners of the land.

I see this thing being £60-70k somehow - urban chic more than country load donkey, which to those of you who have had a bloody mary at the Grenadier can likely attest, is perhaps the environment in which and for which it has been most convincingly conceived!

Tomsk999

7 posts

35 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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The overhead switches maybe a fail considering a large number of people that may use the car ( older farmers, serviceman etc ) may have injuries preventing them lifting their arms up above their heads too far and a general weakness , you would be amazed at how common injuries like that are to the back and shoulder regions . Could be uncomfortable or impossible for some peeps to reach for them repeatedly.

greygoose

8,269 posts

196 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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easytiger123 said:
Maybe it's just me but that interior is a dog's dinner. Looks cheap, gimmicky and incoherent.
I agree.

JakeT

5,441 posts

121 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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All of those old world buttons, and the iDrive bits. Ew.
The manual 4WD selector and BMW automatic gear-lever. Ew.

Looks like a very clumsy mix of old and new, and not in the right way.

chickensoup

469 posts

256 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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that is so bad, I mean dreadful

CambsBill

1,935 posts

179 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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The quality of materials will be key to whether this works in the flesh but two things jump out at me:

1. I've always hated centrally-mounted speedos. Speed is the main thing most drivers look at and having it off the straight-ahead annoys the hell out of me (Mini also guilty of this of course)
2. All those switches look like a crash risk nightmare when it comes to getting an NCAP score.